Thank you LCoast-Abby was buying super glue for a fractured skull that we know was not caused by a bathroom fall if you can believe that portion of sister's testimony-it happened in the kitchen and then Emma was "put to bed." "For a nap."
She could not be roused, so Abby either ran out and bought super-glue or picked it up on her way home???
Here is a thought-"Hey lucas call 911 and I will be there as soon as I can..." RIGHT, he was not supposed to be any where near minor children...so he couldnt do that.
This talented nurse did or did not recognize that her child had a fractured skull??? I am a SAHM who does NOT have a nursing background and I can figure out a fracture/concussion/abrasion. I dont care what kind of a fracture it is, with the exception of the kind that killed Liam Nieson's wife, it is pretty easy to figure out.
So, what is the evidence they are worried about? The crime scene was cleaned up before Emma was taken to the ER by her mom, right? Emma's sister may or may not be reliable as a witness? Abby may or may not have been home at the time of the injuries?
I thought I was OK with the explanations, but I really really need this spelled out for me.
I have to apologize I started the reply to Salem shortly after she posted, but fell asleep before I sent it, had I seem the other posts I may have tried to suck it up and keep it to myself - I am just having such a hard time with this case. I saw the article about the reason for the charges - I understand, Coe needs to be removed from the streets - my eyes see the words that that the DA put together - but my head and heart just don't want to accept it. A little 4 yr old baby was viciously raped, she was sexually and physically abused - she had a STD and her mother gave a song and dance to everyone in an attempt to cover the tracts of her kinky boy toy!!
According to LE Coe was jobless & homeless, he spent most of the time after Ben moved out/up to Emma's death (March - June) w/Abby - some days with his mother/sister. verified by cellphone pings Coe was at her house alone with Emma much of the time, while Abby was at work
Emma's daddy, Ben called Abby on the bruises/blisters in
May, (Emma cried when she urinated) blisters on Emma's mouth, hands and thighs - in
June he said "You take her to the doctor or I will! She took Emma on 6/8.
06/08 - Emma tells doctor Luke holds me tight, Emma has a fever, blisters & bruises. Doc suspects abuse.
06-11- Lesions +HSV2 Doc calls Abby and says she is filing a report with CPS.
6/17 - the 5 of them (Abby, Ben, Emma & sisters) talked to CPS together -
6-18-09 to 6-22-09, Ben had all three girls, he last saw Emma
6/22 Last time Ben saw Emma - said no bruises. Older bruises were fading (healing) and the blister on the back of the thigh was almost healed. It had a scab. The morning of June 22, 2009. She looked fine and walked OK.
At Abby's trial her atty said: "Her sister and her husband at the time had the exact same information that she did about everybody,
including Luke, and they didn't voice any concerns either." (Ben claimed he did not know Coe was staying in the house with his wife and kids!) Abby paid off Coe's $40G debt/fine - keeping him out of jail.
re: 06/08 Dr. Sane testified on Tuesday afternoon and Wednesday morning. Both days she state that Emma told her that "
Luke holds me tight." (AY stated Luke was handyman, he playfully swung Emma and his own daughter by the wrists.)
6/26/09 - Shawn Walker - Coe's brother-in-law testified that Abby & Emma came to pick up Coe from his home around 1 p.m. on Friday,
6-26-09. Emma looked fine. Walked fine,
6/26 Emma walked OK, no visible bruises, blood on panty's - per neighbor
6/26 9PM begins the last 24 hours hours of Emma's life - Friday, 6-26-09 at 9PM to Saturday, 6-27-09/ 9PM EMS (911)
6/27 - noon time Coe & girls home - Abby out - per pings / Emma walked OK - early afternoon
6/27 2-3PM Susan (neighbor) was sitting in her garage she saw Abby pull into her driveway, she saw her exit car and carry 2 or 3 bags of what appeared to be groceries and go into her home.
Mid afternoon Emma ill - resting in MST BDRM while sisters out at pool - sis came in to use BR/ wanted to check on Emma found MST BR door shut/ locked - no Coe
Young went shopping left Emma and her two other daughters with Coe. Per testimony at Young's trial,
when she came back from her second shopping trip, she fixed sloppy joe's and then checked on Emma.
the jury watched videotaped testimony from Thompson's 11-year-old sister. She says on the day Emma died, she heard a loud bang from the kitchen. The sister says she saw Coe with Emma who was bleeding from her head. Emma went to take a nap, but was later found unresponsive by their mother, Abigail Young.
The calls to Dr. Sane,were verified. Made from Young's home. made from Young's cell phone at
6:30, 6:31, 8:22 and 8:25. Dr. Sane called Young at
8:29PM the call lasted 9 min. Young was at home when Dr. Sane called her. Young
made a call at 8:51pm/
8:54PM she called 911 call it pinged near her home
The Randall's tape started at 7 p.m on 6-27-09, the night Emma died. The
itemized list of Abigail Young's groceries was also shown - - - she bought some Krazy Glue. In the pictures from the crime scene (her home),
there is the opened packaging from the Krazy Glue on the floor!
Per Nursing staff - Emma's hair was wet and clean with blood only around the first few inches from the scalp. It is clear someone washed her hair and cleaned her body up before attempting to remove her from the home. Abigail Young did attempt to Super Glue Emma's scalp.
At Young's trial, testimony indicated Young told the neighbors, when she came back from the hospital, that she bleached her bathroom before she attempted to take Emma to the Emergency Room.
Emma arrived at the ER in full arrest, (paramedics had tried for an hour to resuscitate at the car/911 call scene) They worked on Emma until she was officially pronounced dead.
The RN said it was their professional medical obligation to do so even though Emma was "gone" -I want to know - where was Abby's professional/medical obligation?
- Jennifer, Young's neighbors testified to hearing Coe say "Mom, Emma is dead. She is gone!" in front of Christy's house on his cell phone. Coe's and Young's cell phone records, prove that Young did not call Coe before he made the phone call
CSI McElvaney described what he found at the house the AM after Emma died -
blood spots and smears through the two story house.(I guess Abby cleans the way she "nurses" POORLY!) There was blood splatters throughout various parts of the house. When he first entered, there was a red blanket and pillows from Emma's room, along with what appeared to be a sheet. This was located in the entry near the front door. The DNA Semen Profile was consistent with Lucas Coe's DNA.
the defense attorney who gave the opening statement said there was no semen. Apparently he did not review all of the evidence, because on day 1 - an expert testified about DNA and there was semen on Emma's red blanket.
The ME stated blunt force abdominal trauma as Emma's cause of death. Emma's fatal injuries occurred 12 to 24 hours before her death.
Per autopsy Emma had a severed pancreas and fractured skull. Lower abdomen and pelvis: several bruises; thigh area: 10 or 12 bruises. Per Dr. Moore, those type of bruises are not normal for a child - abdominal area 24 to 25 bruises, chest 14 to 15 - All bruises occurred at same time frame - Per Dr. Moore, the vaginal injury cause lots of bleeding \ extreme pain, walk with legs out and hurt when urinating.
HVS2 - mouth, hand, vaginal area and butt. head injury - lg amt bleeding - stopped w/ pressure, bathing, shower, wet towel.
significant busted lip that separated, significant injuries in the mouth, inside the lower lip, lower lip has superficial cuts, Bruises on right side of the face going up to the hairline. Chin: several bruises. 2 abrasions on Emma's back, fingers were bruised.
There was a significant amount of blood in the abdomen.
Some of the internal injuries were old - could have occurred up to one month prior to Emma's death. The above is only a hi-lite of Dr. Moore's testimony. Graphic details are not included.
Abby's neighbor 'Villareal' said Young told neighbors that Emma had fallen off the toilet in the bathroom, cracking her skull and splitting her lip. She described in detail how the girl suffered extensive bruising from CPR attempts. Young said extensive bruising on the girl's thighs was caused when she pulled Emma from the car, once she passed out.
"The most surprising thing I saw was her reaction when officers were getting ready to enter her house, "She seemed nervous. She tried to stall them and said she said she didn't have a key."
Villareal said Young went out of her way to mention that Coe was good to her and her girls.
"In front of everyone, she was telling her oldest daughter that her boyfriend never hurt any of you girls and that he was nice to everybody," he said. "It was like she was coaching her."
She told one group one thing and then told another group of neighbors a totally different story," he said. "She was cool, calm and collected. She seemed kind of normal for someone who just lost a child."
After Emma's death - the Young's didn't lose custody of the girls until after hearing in August 2009!
Dr. Moore said she is well informed about the facts of Emma's case. Records regarding this case were provided to her by A. J. Kelly, Lead Investigator/Detective, Harris County Sheriff's Office.
[just thinking out out loud here... Let's say everything happened the same way - recently separated woman moves her loser/con boyfriend in with her kids - dad & doc see signs of abuse - CPS is called (mom lies) and they fail to remove baby, a week later - baby in care of mother and bf dies - just a horrifically beaten/abused baby - whose mother lied - all things being equal - except there was no rape (no STD, blisters etc) - are we to conclude these two adults would not be charged with her death?]
