Identified! VA - Annandale, WhtFem 245UFVA, ~60, 'NO CODE, DNR, No Penicillin', Dec'96

astridxx · Mar 25, 2014

If only taking on pages and pages of deaths on ancestry wasn't a huge task... We could try to figure out male deaths around the date for Belgian communities in the US. It's been suggested before.

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Tssiemer · Mar 25, 2014

I have no life. I can sift through stuff. I don't know how on ancestry though.

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astridxx · Mar 25, 2014

Poky what girl did you mention, Ballard? I will have to figure out a way to access news paper articles or the like to see how she died. It could be worth sorting thru. Did anyone search the courts where Shirley is from to see if she has a criminal history (though idk if it would be available -- I don't know that there are any charges before 2000 listed online). I just have to think IF Shirley DID hit a kid with her car, there would be a newspaper article somewhere -- IF it is SS and if she did pick PV to off herself over guilt of hitting a kid. I'll see what I can find on BRB's end..

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Tssiemer · Mar 25, 2014

I can usually find anything online (I did work for the government writing parole plans, I HAD to find all their dirty laundry but it was easy there) , I just don't know where to start.

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astridxx · Mar 25, 2014

BRB was from woodbridge and died at Fairfax hospital:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/f...GSiman=1&GSst=48&GSob=n&GRid=123308446&df=90&

Woodbridge is close to Annandale. We will have to research BRB more to see the COD, to see if she was victim of a terrible accident.

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FiveFelines · Mar 25, 2014

astridxx said:
BRB was from woodbridge and died at Fairfax hospital:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/f...GSiman=1&GSst=48&GSob=n&GRid=123308446&df=90&

Woodbridge is close to Annandale. We will have to research BRB more to see the COD, to see if she was victim of a terrible accident.

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I can't find a death notice for BRB... Just that Find-a-grave post.

CallMeTres · Mar 25, 2014

Post #163 in this thread, from February 2011, says that JD's DNA tests are not complete. More than 3 years? I wonder if someone failed to update the page or if JD's sample is too degraded to use.

Donjeta said:
The victim's Namus page
https://identifyus.org/cases/6279

The only one in the rule out list is Iva Foss. Namus says DNA samples exist but the tests are not complete so apparently there are no Codis ruleouts by default.

FiveFelines · Mar 25, 2014

astridxx said:
Poky what girl did you mention, Ballard? I will have to figure out a way to access news paper articles or the like to see how she died. It could be worth sorting thru. Did anyone search the courts where Shirley is from to see if she has a criminal history (though idk if it would be available -- I don't know that there are any charges before 2000 listed online). I just have to think IF Shirley DID hit a kid with her car, there would be a newspaper article somewhere -- IF it is SS and if she did pick PV to off herself over guilt of hitting a kid. I'll see what I can find on BRB's end..

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All the car accidents I mentioned previously for Shirley were newspaper items on Google and Ancestry. Nothing past 1977, when she hit the pedestrian.

astridxx · Mar 25, 2014

FiveFelines said:
All the car accidents I mentioned previously for Shirley were newspaper items on Google and Ancestry. Nothing past 1977, when she hit the pedestrian.

Wait omg SS hit a ped?? Did the ped die?? Yeesh, maybe *I* should go back and read the thread!!

I am not fully convinced it's SS though, simply because of likeness or lack thereof.

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EmiLove832 · Mar 25, 2014

That someone was me

In the year 2000, Wisconsin had the highest number of Belgian immigrants. There were a few States that were closer to Annadale though.

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astridxx · Mar 25, 2014

CallMeTres said:
Post #163 in this thread, from February 2011, says that JD's DNA tests are not complete. More than 3 years? I wonder if someone failed to update the page or if JD's sample is too degraded to use.

I emailed a contact at the FFX PD's office that I was in touch with back when I thought JG was our JD. He hasn't replied -- this was a month or so ago too. :/ I'm not sure if poky asked about the DNA?

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astridxx · Mar 25, 2014

EmiLove832 said:
That someone was me

In the year 2000, Wisconsin had the highest number of Belgian immigrants. There were a few States that were closer to Annadale though.

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DE right?

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FiveFelines · Mar 25, 2014

So earlier today I was avoiding work and poking around on Ancestry when I had the brilliant idea to search Virginia death records for men who died on 12/18, then sleuth the surviving wives to see if I could find anyone who resembled Jane Doe. Sadly I have a million deadlines coming up, but if anyone really has free time and wants to have a go...

FiveFelines · Mar 25, 2014

astridxx said:
Wait omg SS hit a ped?? Did the ped die?? Yeesh, maybe *I* should go back and read the thread!!

I am not fully convinced it's SS though, simply because of likeness or lack thereof.

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Nope. Didn't die. I mentioned it up thread. It was in April 1977.

FiveFelines · Mar 25, 2014

I would consider Belgian as well as Dutch and maybe French (nearby countries).

astridxx · Mar 25, 2014

Pass the task to Tsseimer -- I would start by narrowing it down to cities in northern VA. Like Annandale, Fairfax, falls church, centreville, Arlington, Alexandria, Springfield, manassas, woodbridge, quantico...

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Tssiemer · Mar 25, 2014

FiveFelines said:
So earlier today I was avoiding work and poking around on Ancestry when I had the brilliant idea to search Virginia death records for men who died on 12/18, then sleuth the surviving wives to see if I could find anyone who resembled Jane Doe. Sadly I have a million deadlines coming up, but if anyone really has free time and wants to have a go...

Lame. You need an ancestry account.

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FiveFelines · Mar 25, 2014

Tssiemer said:
Lame. You need an ancestry account.

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My sister has one. I can see if she will share it.

astridxx · Mar 25, 2014

Tssiemer said:
Lame. You need an ancestry account.

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LOL she has DEADLINES!!! I normally have a lot of free time at work, maybe I'll poke around tomorrow.

(And yes, get an ancestry account -- it's fascinating when you're not lead on a wild goose chase!!!)

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Tssiemer · Mar 25, 2014

astridxx said:
LOL she has DEADLINES!!! I normally have a lot of free time at work, maybe I'll poke around tomorrow.

(And yes, get an ancestry account -- it's fascinating when you're not lead on a wild goose chase!!!)

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Doesn't it cost $$?

Eta: I think my mom has an account. I'll check with her tomorrow.

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