oceanblueeyes
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My dog just barked at a car door shutting next door....
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My dog just barked at a car door shutting next door....
I dont know why I cant get the picture to show up, but I attached the file.
Im thinking by "porch" they mean the wall area around part of the house..
Pima county lists the house as 1-1/2 stories. (?)
I agree... I hope they haven't, we've just seen it before.
I have never understood the emphasis on the clothing they were last seen wearing or a certain hairstyle. :waitasec:
If you abducted a child, what would be the first thing you would do? Change their appearance.
This fabulously happy ending is a perfect example.
Her hair was cut, her clothes were changed and she was gone just over 24 hours.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108711&highlight=clothes&page=20
lso in other cases when a parent has avoided appearing in court for a minor violation while the child was missing, they've been criticized.
If he had forgotten and not shown up, that would have been labeled as irresponsible and he would have been criticized for that too.
I would personally rather go to court at this point... than try to do it after they find the child... either alive or dead. :twocents:
I admit that I was staunchly in the camp of non-parental abduction at the beginning. After watching the tape of their statement over and over, I'm on the fence.
It's unpopular up here though.
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I'm wondering if there is a crawl space or attic type that they are classifying as the second floor. The house doesn't appear to be high enough on top to be a second floor living space. IMO
Here is a shot of the house off google from 2008.
Dont know if this has been posted.. and I apologize if it blows the margins, but here's the layout of the Celis' home. (from Pima County Assessor's office)
http://tinypic.com/r/2j2wbxc/6
http://www.asr.co.pima.az.us/links/frm_Parcel.aspx?parcel=128030990&taxyear=2013
It does say 1.5 stories at the attached link (3802 sq ft total).
Removed-blew the margins.
Yes, but I saw a draftsman drawing somewhere.
This is PERFECT! Now, if someone can take it and label the bedrooms, where Isabel's bedroom is, add the streets, the alley and the neighbors house, that would be perfect. I have no clue how to do that or how to post such a thing.
I'm climbing up there with you. :fence: No body language expert here, but during their statement something spoke volumes. Not really sure what it was, but it was loud and clear.
Dad stood with hands lightly clasped in front of him, gazing out at the crowd, eyes darting all over the place, not a tear in sight (at least on the clip I saw), not nervously clasping hands. No nonverbal support of wife, no glance at her, arm around her, just standing calmly beside her. Mom later put her arm around him and grasped his shirt and that was about it. They really didn't look to each other for support at all. Matter of fact, they didn't really look AT each other much if at all. :waitasec:
Not saying they DID it, whatever it may be, but someone's guilty about something, or at least it looks that way from this angle. Could be something unrelated to Isi's disappearance, but there's an emotional disconnect somewhere.
Now someone's going to come along and say his being an opera singer made his calm demeanor possible, but I think all that would go out the window when your precious child is missing. In all honesty, I felt like I was WATCHING a performance of some kind. I've seen men cry and I've never seen one like that.
I hope I'm wrong, I really do, and maybe as someone earlier said, it may be a regional thing and body language et al is better interpreted by locals.
I really hope and pray that Isi is safe and will be home soon.
lease:
MOO
What if the parents weren't really home after Isa went to bed? I know mom worked an early am shift, but any chance she was "doubling back" after a shift the evening before?
Like, maybe she had switched a shift: working an extra day to get the sat evening off for a wedding or something special?
Did they have two working cars? Maybe dad had to pick her up or drive her? Isn't there a disabled car around?
Someone close would surely be aware of those details, and their schedules...like knowing when the kids would be alone? My pre-teen and teenage boys sleep thru any and everything, including barking dogs.
...so many unknowns.