Trial w/o the A's testimony

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Are witnesses allowed to sit in the courtroom before and after they testify?
It would be grand if they were held outside and allowed in only for their testimony and then escorted outside to wait until they are called again by the defense.
 
Amil said:
Are witnesses allowed to sit in the courtroom before and after they testify?
It would be grand if they were held outside and allowed in only for their testimony and then escorted outside to wait until they are called again by the defense.
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Oh! I thought witnesses WERE kept out of courtroom, other than for their testimony, so they don't pick up info from other witnesses.....good thinking! Does that mean they wouldn't be allowed to sit behind KC during the whole trial, or just until they testify?
 
jandkmom said:
ITA...I disagree about the SA not wanting to put them on the stand. I think they would make great witness for the state. They show that they will lie and be combative just like Casey. They are disrespectful and do not think the law applies to them. I think that they will either perjur themselves or sink Casey, either way is okay with me.
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I agree~ I hope SA puts them on and they behave exactly like they did during the depos. Let the Jury see exactly what kind of people they are.

However, I think that's only wishful hoping.

IMO, the A's will be on their best behavior and do everything possible to gain sympathy from the Jury - especially G. At that point, SA will need to proceed very carefully or the Jury will be sympathetic because they are beating up on the poor grieving GP's.

I don't know if Cindy has it in her tho. We will see ~
 
Amil said:
Are witnesses allowed to sit in the courtroom before and after they testify?
It would be grand if they were held outside and allowed in only for their testimony and then escorted outside to wait until they are called again by the defense.
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It's my understanding that you can't be present in the court room if you're scheduled to testify. I think you can stay after your testimony is given though.

I think they even tell you not to watch any coverage of the trial before you've been called. THIS, I don't think the A's can be trusted to do.
 
I feel like the state almost has to call Cindy and George to testify. The 911 call, the smell in the car, the fact that Caylee was not heard from after June 16th from either of the Grand parent's makes their testimony crucial, IMO. I believe the state will have no problem in declaring them to be hostile witnesses should they try to evade the truth on the stand, and I think they will work this so that the jury gets a good feel for these Grandparents, before pressing them for the hard answers. Maybe between now and then one of them or both might decide to be more truthful, I don't think it will happen, but there's a lot that can change between now and the trial. It has been reported that the state expects them to help convict Casey, through their truthful testimony, and if that doesn't happen there could be charges at the other end of the trial. I think the state realizes the sympathy factor for these Grandparent's may be high in people not familar with the history of this case, the lies and attempt at cover up, but once the state shows the jury their history, that sympathy factor, IMO, will not be a problem.
 
RubyB said:
It's my understanding that you can't be present in the court room if you're scheduled to testify. I think you can stay after your testimony is given though.

I think they even tell you not to watch any coverage of the trial before you've been called. THIS, I don't think the A's can be trusted to do.
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you are correct, in general terms. Should the state call them as witnesses and the defense opts to question them, the state may move (request to the Judge) to keep a witness sequestered if they think they may need to call them back for rebuttal. Not done THAT often, but can occur.
 
After misleading staements and out right lies in both depos, could CA & GA possibly be used as effective witnesses in the murder trial. Mods feel free to move this but it is bugging me to see the inconsistent statements given by these two during the depos. I feel as though the prosecution has enough evidence to convict KC without her parents and even though they are listed as witnesses I feel as though they will not be called due to their obvious aversion to truthfulness....anyone else?:furious:
 
tzee said:
After misleading staements and out right lies in both depos, could CA & GA possibly be used as effective witnesses in the murder trial. Mods feel free to move this but it is bugging me to see the inconsistent statements given by these two during the depos. I feel as though the prosecution has enough evidence to convict KC without her parents and even though they are listed as witnesses I feel as though they will not be called due to their obvious aversion to truthfulness....anyone else?:furious:
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They will be some of the best witnesses for the state. They have already shown themselves to be "covering up" for KC, which shows that they believe KC to be guilty. They set themselves up with the lies to be great prosecution witnesses. Baez is terrified of those people going on the stand.
 
CBTampa said:
Can you amagine what it will be like if they do not call CA to the stand? She will be shouting from the gallery during testimony and being held in contempt. What a circus that would be. If they do call her it would be a circus...one objection after another.

After watching parts of her depositions, I changed my mind about her being a poor grieving grandmother. Most of the time she reminded me of KC during her jail house visit where she is ranting and raving. Seriously, CA had some killer looks on her face. I don't think that would sit well with the jury.
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CA had moments of looking deranged during her deposition. What she and GA will demonstrate to the jury is that all of the family members "are strangers with the truth" and that they all have hot tempers, anger and emotional issues, and that their is an extreme level of dysfunction in this family that didn't just begin on July 15th.

What I can only imagine - given the glimpses of the tempers we have seen with the depos, the jail videos, the hammer/baseball bat incidents, etc. - is just how BAD that fight on June 15th between CA and KC was - especially given the lengths that CA has gone to to cover the fight up/discount it.
 
My train of thought here:

I have always held the belief that the A's were involved from day 1, June 16. Only time will tell if I am right or wrong.

In any event, the A's will have to be called to lay the foundation. As far as any public sympathy for them. Pu--shaw, by the time the trial is actually started, all sympathy for them will be nil. Totally and absolutely in Anthonesis. It has already started to disintegrate. The more CA talks the sympathy fades. And we all know she cannot keep silent.
 
CBTampa said:
Can you amagine what it will be like if they do not call CA to the stand? She will be shouting from the gallery during testimony and being held in contempt. What a circus that would be. If they do call her it would be a circus...one objection after another.

After watching parts of her depositions, I changed my mind about her being a poor grieving grandmother. Most of the time she reminded me of KC during her jail house visit where she is ranting and raving. Seriously, CA had some killer looks on her face. I don't think that would sit well with the jury.
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They will be contained as witnesses for the prosecution so they can be kept out of the courtroom. The state may or may not call them, but I can assure you the defense will have to if KC isn't going to testify. The state must keep them contained in a separate area, to keep them from being able to collaborate the lies they defense is going to use.
 
i say bring them on.
it's my honest belief after seeing the deposition tapes that any fears that the anthonys could help casey or garner sympathy are unfounded. i think everyone in the courtroom will greatly resent being told bare faced lies (and expected to believe them), will be infuriated beyond words by their behaviour towards the prosecutors, and in that they'll be helpless to address any of this - it'll backfire on casey.
 
beach2yall said:
thinking out loud --

I feel that both A's will be called to testify. I think they will want to reiterate GA's Grand Jury testimony. IMHO, calling CA could only hurt them if the jury were to feel sympathetic towards her - however, for that to happen she would need to be honest, forthcoming and respectful. I just don't see that happening in this lifetime. If CA's behavior is anywhere close to what it was in the depo video, it would only highlight the obsurdities in this desperate defense.

I do think GA could evoke sympathy from the jury. He's not a well-skilled liar and it shows. The word that keeps coming to mind is sadness.
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I agree - the prosecution would be insane not to put Cindy on the stand. She'll generate a lot of antipathy for the defense. Not so sure George won't do the same, he just balks in a nicer way than Cindy. I keep hoping too that he'll surprise us and tell the truth on the stand.

You know, I think they will generate a lot of sympathy for the police officers who had to try and find Caylee/solve the murder despite the family's lies, evidence tampering and hostility.
 
TURBOTHINK said:
They will be contained as witnesses for the prosecution so they can be kept out of the courtroom. The state may or may not call them, but I can assure you the defense will have to if KC isn't going to testify. The state must keep them contained in a separate area, to keep them from being able to collaborate the lies they defense is going to use.
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They don't have to, but I've never covered a trial yet that there wasn't a motion at the start to exclude the witnesses from the courtroom.
 
My guess is the As will have to be called to testify about the car, the smell, the non-existence nanny. last time they saw Caylee, etc. . This should keep them out of the courtroom until they are no longer subject to be recalled--hopefully the entire trial. If they were allowed to sit in the gallery I think it would be horrific for all concerned. CA is a loose cannon.
 
The SA 'could' use the 911 operator, and the tow yard personel to introduce the forensics here, but I'll bet they WILL call the A's.

Once they appear combative, they will be declared hostile witnesses, this will allow the SA to use cross examination techniques and impeach the parts of their testimony which are not true.

The SA will have thoroughly studied the defamation depos, and will know exactly how to elicit responses from them, including things that damage the defense.

Doing this sort of removes any value that the defense believes they can squeeze from them.


ETA - The SA will also be able to question the washing of the clothes and car etc - they may end up with enough to charge the rest of the family if they were complicit in a cover up or OOJ.
 
(all quotes from articles)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZRTi3AVEaU
Dominic Casey searching November 15-16 where Caylee was found

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/112508anthonykidfindernewser/indexGallery.htm
Anthony Kid Finders News Conference November 25th 2008
CA is very Distraught

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/
Friday, Feb. 20 2009
4:30 PM ET - Police just release the audiotaped interview of the Anthony's private investigator. Previously released transcripts reveal Dominic Casey reportedly gave detectives conflicting stories about why he was searching around the woods just weeks before Caylee's remains were found. According to WFTV, grandmother Cindy Anthony sent someone to those woods last November. (From Stacey Newman, Nancy Grace Producer)

If LE can link all of this together - who told DC to search woods - who knew where Caylee was - and leads back to KC
 
RubyB said:
After witnessing the civil depositions it occurs to me that the SA's would likely rather jam a pencil into their collective ears than call anyone with the last name of Anthony to the stand to help "set the stage".
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I noticed in the depositions that CA would not just give short answers but would give up info in her long winded answers that only hurt her daughters case. The best deposition I saw in this case was Jim Hoover. He did a perfect job IMHO
 
SA doesn't need the Anthonys testimony, they have all they need on the taped interviews and 911 calls from both Cindy and George .. :D

hehehehe ..
Can't wait for the trial .. :behindbar
 
ladybugplus said:
I noticed in the depositions that CA would not just give short answers but would give up info in her long winded answers that only hurt her daughters case. The best deposition I saw in this case was Jim Hoover. He did a perfect job IMHO
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I agree ..
Maybe they are secretly trying to keep Casey behind bars and away from them!
 
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