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Old 05-13-2010, 03:47 PM
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I cannot understand that. There are too many sick people out there and destroy human beings. Why hate so much between 2 divorced couples? From Gerren to Nathan now.
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I know it's not very important comparatively, but I wonder (if JS's worker's comp. settlement has not been paid out yet) if JS will get to keep the whole amount now. Or will he have to pay it, which will probably go to SS's legal defense? (gag)
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Suicide watch?

Screw that. Give them each some rope and a razor and turn your back.
I agree but which of them is on suicide watch?
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He's adorable. Too bad the monster wasn't photoshopped out of that pic.
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Ruby asked: I agree but which one is on suicide watch?

Both, I believe. I'd have to listen again, but I think the reporter said "they" were on a suicide watch.
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I agree but which of them is on suicide watch?
They both are.
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News articles:
http://interceder.net/news/ethan-stacy

Probable cause documents:

Stephanie
http://www.standard.net/topics/ethan...hanieSloop.pdf

Nathan
http://www.standard.net/topics/ethan...athanSloop.pdf

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Troy S. Rawlings

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800 West State Street
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Farmington, Utah 84025

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I know it's not very important comparatively, but I wonder (if JS's worker's comp. settlement has not been paid out yet) if JS will get to keep the whole amount now. Or will he have to pay it, which will probably go to SS's legal defense? (gag)
If I recall correctly....

He hasn't received the settlement yet.

He won't have to pay the half to Stephanie because Ethan is dead now.

According to the newspapers, as long as he paid Stephanie half of the settlement, he could retain physical custody of Ethan. Now that Ethan is gone, he won't be able to retain custody, so he won't have to give her any money.

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In the divorce settlement, Joe Stacy and Sloop agreed to share custody of the boy. He was to spend the school year with his father and summers with his mother. The agreement was approved by a Florida judge April 28.

The couple divided their personal property, Joe Stacy was required to pay $240 a month in child support and she gave up claims to a Florida house that fell into foreclosure in December, according to court files.

Joe Stacy was an oil-rig worker who expected a sum of money from a 2008 accident. He offered to share the settlement with Sloop, who insisted on full custody of the boy if the father didn't collect the money, but the judge ruled that condition was unenforceable.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...l/7003777.html

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I apologize if this has been discussed...I just cant believe this:

Joe Stacy was an oil-rig worker who expected a sum of money from a 2008 accident. He offered to share the settlement with Sloop, who insisted on full custody of the boy if the father didn't collect the money, but the judge ruled that condition was unenforceable.

This is BLACKMAIL!!! This woman was willing to sell her full custody of Ethan for her share of the money??? I am absolutely furious!! She never gave a DAMN about that precious boy!!!!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss
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Please email or call the Davis County Attorney's
Office in Layton, Utah and demand that justice for Ethan be served. Please email the prosecutor TROY RAWLINGS at: troy@daviscountyutah.gov.
Or CALL DAVID COLE at: 801-451-4300
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The newlyweds aren't enjoying their honeymoon? Too bad.
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Old 05-13-2010, 04:18 PM
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You did it!

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Quoted from Pittsburghgirl:

"A few years back, there was a story about a stray female cat who had severe burns from going back into a burning building to rescue her kittens. The people who found her and the kittens named her Scarlet. I saw a mother turkey frantically trying to get her last baby turkey chick across a highway, the others waiting on the other side. Animals will risk their lives to save their young. That's all I have to say about these two."

How true is that!! I read a book recently about studies done that show our human instinct to sense danger is less in our society today than it was 100 years ago. We are loosing that basic human instinct, thanks to society rules basically. Wondering if this isn't the case with the instict for mothers to protect thier children (even thier young children). There seem to be so many more cases in the news these days of child abuse (w/mothers consent) murders and even mothers who leave perfectly normal families to pursue thier own wants and needs.

Not revelant to the discussion directly but I am still trying so hard to understand how this mother stood by and watched her son being beaten and tortured. (moo)

BeanE Thanks for posting the address to the prosecuter, I have a draft started now. Would it be okay to share it with others outside of WS? tia
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The newlyweds aren't enjoying their honeymoon? Too bad.
Bless the person who's watching them. I'd be tempted to give them a rope and tall stool.
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Brought over eyes4crime timeline

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WARNING: GRAPHC and DISTURBING.
Thought I would bring the timeline forward for the members and guests - not sure we can believe much of what Stephanie has told.
Ethan's slow deterioration time-line of hell! 3rd revision.

May 4th - Tuesday
First of many cell phone pictures mom takes of abuse over the days. Picture of Ethan with large, notable, area of swelling to jaw and face.

May5th - Wednesday
Nate's mom visits - says all is fine
Nate takes Ethan in bedroom to punish and beats child around head area; face begins to swell.
Ethan's father, Joe Stacey, told his son was unavailable to talk as he had done in prior days.

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, Ethan "exhibits signs and symptoms of a possible head injury or brain swelling due to a head injury,"

"Stephanie Sloop told police Tuesday while being interviewed about her son's death. Ethan did not eat well, was vomiting, lethargic and exhibited non-responsive behavior, according to the reports."

6 p.m. either Thursday or Friday...Stephanie Sloop come down the steps of her apartment and walk along the sidewalk onto the grass.
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"She seemed agitated, kept stopping and looking back," Hope said.

May 6th - Thursday
Ethan locked in bedroom while Stephanie and Nate marry; door knob taken off. Nate and Stephanie leave child in bedroom due to swelling and bruises.

Over the next several days, Ethan got progressively ill, police said Stephanie Sloop told detectives. He was vomiting, running a fever and would not eat. The couple forced the boy to drink two 16 oz. bottles of water, a bottle of KoolAid and orange juice in a two-hour period, police wrote in the jail statement. (from warrant of probable cause). Motrin and Benadryl were given for the swelling and Nate gave Benadryl so Ethan would stay quiet.

May 7th - Friday
Nate calls Stephanie to inform her Ethan is badly burned on hands, feet, and legs up to buttox area from running water in bath (claims Ethan turned on hot water). Stephanie finds human feces in child's mouth. Stephanie brushes Ethan's teeth until his gums bleed.

May 8th - Saturday
Child continues to suffer from scald burns and head injuries. Blood and vomit found in child's bed. Stephanie needs to wash bed sheets.

'Stephanie told us that on 05/08/2010 Ethan smeared his feces on the bathroom wall and on Nate."

May 9th - Sunday (Mother's Day)
Ethan is found dead in bed

Ethan wrapped in garbage bags with tape, brought to Powder Mountain area for burial. Hammer used to disfigure facial features and teeth of Ethan. Stephanie buys 2 cans lighter fluid to destroy evidence.


May 10th (Monday)
Late in day Stephanie reports child missing Make up story about child leaving the apt. 5x in in last 10 days in middle of night.

May 11th (Tuesday)
LE finds child buried - teeth and face smashed in with hammer, lighter fluid used to destroy evidence.

Please let me know of any additions or deletions. TIA
Thanks to all of you with suggestions for additions/corrections - used every one of them.

http://www.fox13now.com/media/acroba...5/53729228.pdf
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I know it's not very important comparatively, but I wonder (if JS's worker's comp. settlement has not been paid out yet) if JS will get to keep the whole amount now. Or will he have to pay it, which will probably go to SS's legal defense? (gag)
It's a legal settlement that was due before this crime occurred; I doubt there's anything anyone can do, to keep her from getting the money.

In between leaving Joe Stacy, SS lived in Vegas. What's to say the money wasn't gone? (What WAS she doing there? "Modeling?")
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I apologize if this has been discussed...I just cant believe this:

Joe Stacy was an oil-rig worker who expected a sum of money from a 2008 accident. He offered to share the settlement with Sloop, who insisted on full custody of the boy if the father didn't collect the money, but the judge ruled that condition was unenforceable.

This is BLACKMAIL!!! This woman was willing to sell her full custody of Ethan for her share of the money??? I am absolutely furious!! She never gave a DAMN about that precious boy!!!!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss
Absolutely. This infuriated me so, so much. I was about ready to jump on the "Reply" button until I read your post here. You said it, suzyq211. Blatant extortion. And I do mean BLATANT. Pretty shameless. "Only IF you get the settlement money, I'll share our son (only because I know he's valuable to you and I can get something out of it). If you don't get the money, you don't get your son, because then you can't offer ME anything."

Where in the world did SS learn to be so selfish and manipulative????
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By May 8, I don't think Ethan would have been able to smear feces on the walls. I doubt Ethan was even conscious by this point. What do you guys in the medical field think?
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I dont post very often. This so reminds me of our little Shanyia who was taken from a family that loved her dearly
I dont understand how these moms aka monsters can just stand by and take part in the murders of their flesh and blood.

This just makes my stomach sick!!!!
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My heart is so broken!! I must step away for a while! Thank God little Ethan is at peace in God's loving arms and his nightmare is over!!
NS and SS-your nightmare is just beginning!!!

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[quote='Ailina;5183160]Absolutely. This infuriated me so, so much. I was about ready to jump on the "Reply" button until I read your post here. You said it, suzyq211. Blatant extortion. And I do mean BLATANT. Pretty shameless. "Only IF you get the settlement money, I'll share our son (only because I know he's valuable to you and I can get something out of it). If you don't get the money, you don't get your son, because then you can't offer ME anything."

Where in the world did SS learn to be so selfish and manipulative????[/QUOTE]

Still trying to figure that one out. I really do think NS has Narsisstic tendencies (could be wrong, I know someone like this)

A person with narcissistic personality disorder:

Reacts to criticism with rage, shame, or humiliation
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Has feelings of self-importance
Exaggerates achievements and talents
Is preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love
Has unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment
Requires constant attention and admiration
Disregards the feelings of others, lacks empathy
Has obsessive self-interest
Pursues mainly selfish goals

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