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Old 05-19-2010, 07:41 PM
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:35 PM
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Eyes4crime , This looks like a change to the Timeline His Dad last talked to him May 3




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I wonder if Ethan said he was having fun or Joe asked him if he was having fun and Ethan said 'yes'.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:47 PM
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I wonder if Ethan said he was having fun or Joe asked him if he was having fun and Ethan said 'yes'.
I do not know. What a house of horrors Ethan went to.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:55 PM
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For you, sweet Ethan...

Tiny Angels
Tiny Angels rest your wings
sit with me for awhile.
How I long to hold your hand,
And see your tender smile.
Tiny Angel, look at me,
I want this image clear....
That I will forget your precious face
Is my biggest fear.
Tiny Angel can you tell me,
Why you have gone away?
You weren't here for very long....
Why is it, you couldn't stay?
Tiny Angel shook his head,
"These things I do not know....
But I do know that you love me,
And that I love you so."

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Old 05-19-2010, 09:00 PM
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I do not know. What a house of horrors Ethan went to.
Wanna bet he was threatened not to say anything ?
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:06 PM
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Ethan reminds me so much of my own son at that age, so this tragedy has shaken me to the core. I haven't been able to post until now because I was filled with such anger and hateful thoughts that I would have gotten banned. I've spent the last few days consumed with thoughts of this precious little angel and the horrors he went through. I'm always deeply saddened by the loss of a child, as well as hearing about abused and neglected children, but this is the worst of the worst. My heart is breaking for Joe and the rest of Ethan's family...those who cherished every moment with him and saw him for the true gift that he was. Godspeed, little guy.
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Emotions are so high and pain so deep they reach the core of my being. I haven't talked about it much, so many years have passed when I lost my son. I do not understand someone hurting a child on purpose. That is what brought me here. I want, I need to see justice for children. I want, I hope and I need to share comfort and love to others who have lost the most beautiful gift there is, a child.

I am angry and frustrated that someone like the Shoops have disregarded, forgotten or ignored that gift! Ethan was a gift that gave joy and kindness and laughter to the world. I read how he smart he was, how kind and funny! He was all those wonderful things and more. They stole from the future when they took him from today!

Someday I hope that change will happen for the future Ethans, God willing. Give stronger sentencing for those who hurt our children. Assist judges and courts, social services workers in understanding children can be at risk and say No more best intrests of the parents and say best intrests of our children!

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Ethan you are so beautiful. Rest in peace.

I read you have a transformer with you as it was your favorate toy. I just wanted to say that your like a transformer too..I bet you were always an angelic boy but now you have wings spread wide.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:49 PM
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Emotions are so high and pain so deep they reach the core of my being. I haven't talked about it much, so many years have passed when I lost my son. I do not understand someone hurting a child on purpose. That is what brought me here. I want, I need to see justice for children. I want, I hope and I need to share comfort and love to others who have lost the most beautiful gift there is, a child.

I am angry and frustrated that someone like the Shoops have disregarded, forgotten or ignored that gift! Ethan was a gift that gave joy and kindness and laughter to the world. I read how he smart he was, how kind and funny! He was all those wonderful things and more. They stole from the future when they took him from today!

Someday I hope that change will happen for the future Ethans, God willing. Give stronger sentencing for those who hurt our children. Assist judges and courts, social services workers in understanding children can be at risk and say No more best intrests of the parents and say best intrests of our children!

Forgive me for this long post.


Ethan you are so beautiful. Rest in peace.

I read you have a transformer with you as it was your favorate toy. I just wanted to say that your like a transformer too..I bet you were always an angelic boy but now you have wings spread wide.
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I felt the need to make Ethan my avatar and if anyone else would like to use it, please feel free.
Thank you for sharing...I wanted to do this earlier...just couldn't decide on a pic...and this was is really really good!
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:09 AM
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Ethan's uncle: 'Why did it have to come to this?'

Crime Mother who is in jail on suspicion of murder finds half-brother on MySpace in 2007, starts sharing life.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15121178?source=pkg

Interesting snips:
Sloop apparently met her former husband Stacy while the two were in the U.S. Army, Croft said. She was no longer enlisted in 2007.

Croft said he wasn't clear how the couple supported themselves, though at one point Sloop told him she'd lost her job when a Blockbuster store closed.
The last time Sloop contacted her brother was on May 5. She texted him that she and Nathan Sloop were going to a courthouse the next day to get married so that they could apply for food stamps, Medicaid and other public assistance, he said. Their "real" wedding in Colorado was still on, she told him.
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:20 AM
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And I bet they were going to use poor Ethan to get all that too.
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:26 AM
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And I bet they were going to use poor Ethan to get all that too.
I agree! But, NS was employed right? SS would have gotten benefits for Ethan as a single mother. Once married she would have to claim her husbands income before appying for state assistance wouldn't she? And being that she did not have custody would she even qualify? geez! It's late and I can't think straight... The more I think the less sense her applying for assistance makes!

I bet NS infromed her he would not be using his income to support her child...moo
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The last time Sloop contacted her brother was on May 5. She texted him that she and Nathan Sloop were going to a courthouse the next day to get married
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Well now neither of them will need to worry about how to get foodstamps, health care, or paying for rent. All of those needs will be provided by the citizens of Utah! We'll even pay for their lawyers.

I'm going to have to do some digging and find out what kind of reputation the Davis Cnty Jail has as far as their meals go, I hope they're really bad!

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Old 05-20-2010, 01:38 AM
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Well now neither of them will need to worry about how to get foodstamps, health care, or paying for rent. All of those needs will be provided by the citizens of Utah! We'll even pay for their lawyers.

I'm going to have to do some digging and find out what kind of reputation the Davis Cnty Jail has as far as their meals go, I hope they're really bad!

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I was just goimg to comment on that!
Probably not for her with diabetes and all...
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Ethan's uncle: 'Why did it have to come to this?'

Crime Mother who is in jail on suspicion of murder finds half-brother on MySpace in 2007, starts sharing life.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15121178?source=pkg

Interesting snips:
Sloop apparently met her former husband Stacy while the two were in the U.S. Army, Croft said. She was no longer enlisted in 2007.

Croft said he wasn't clear how the couple supported themselves, though at one point Sloop told him she'd lost her job when a Blockbuster store closed.
The last time Sloop contacted her brother was on May 5. She texted him that she and Nathan Sloop were going to a courthouse the next day to get married so that they could apply for food stamps, Medicaid and other public assistance, he said. Their "real" wedding in Colorado was still on, she told him.
Wow! That article is so interesting! Steph and Joe met in the army, wonder if she has an honorable discharge.

Moving up the wedding to apply for food stamps/Medicaid etc. Seems they had no money and needed Ethan to get more? So why would they hurt this child to death? This case is exhausting. I'm going to add to the time-line that she called her brother on the 5th. thanks SuziQ
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I wonder... did NS go with SS to Florida? I have a sneaky feeling that SS made the decision on her own and came back from Florida with Ethan and surprised NS with the news that Ethan would be living with her/them in Utah... MOO
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Where were these two going to get money for a wedding if they were going to apply for foodstamps, TANF, medicaid?

I hate to say this, but these two remind me of poor folks who try to dress like they have cash, but it is so obvious they didn't.

Then to have the audacity to add all those high end items on the bridal registry? I never in my life heard of having a bridal shower for a second marriage for both the bride and groom. Tacky.... very very tacky.

I realize the above is not really related to the case, other than to add to how pathetic these two were. Total trash, total scum.
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I was just goimg to comment on that!
Probably not for her with diabetes and all...
somehow I think her diabetes and his mpd have something in common.

just when I think I get a grip on my emotions, I read something else that sends me off
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somehow I think her diabetes and his mpd have something in common.

just when I think I get a grip on my emotions, I read something else that sends me off
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO crud! And she will say that is why she did not seek medical attention because they had no medical insurance on Ethan and they were told by social services that they would not qualify because she did not have custody!!!!!!!!!
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I agree! But, NS was employed right? SS would have gotten benefits for Ethan as a single mother. Once married she would have to claim her husbands income before appying for state assistance wouldn't she? And being that she did not have custody would she even qualify? geez! It's late and I can't think straight... The more I think the less sense her applying for assistance makes!

I bet NS infromed her he would not be using his income to support her child...moo
She says one thing and claims another. It's all assbackwards. The only explanation I can come up with is her words are lies but her actions tell the truth. I think what she told people about the sudden marriage was BS and an excuse that doesn't make sense because it's a lie.

I keep going back to the neighbor seeing SS and NS in the courtyard on the 6th. Something major happened. Ethan was dying, dead or they made the decision he needed to die. I think they kicked into CYA mode then and ran off to get married thinking they would get spousal protection.
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more interesting snips from the above link:

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Her postings struck her brother as "too much." She mentioned Nathan Sloop's fight to see his daughter and her own inexplicable loss of twins, a pregnancy, she said, that could have taken her life.
"It was overkill," said Croft.
Thank GOD NS never saw his daughter. His absense in her life most likely saved her life..... sadly NS was allowed near Ethan or his life would have been spared too.

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Croft and Sloop have the same father, who Croft described Wednesday as "a rolling stone" who had little involvement in either of their lives.
I had the feeling SS didn't have a father in her life. Just had that impression based on her behavior and her incredibly unhealthy views of a romantic relationship.

Since we now know SS didn't have her biological father in her life, we know it was her mother and step father she requested Joe agree to no contact with Ethan in their divorce agreement. I wonder why? If I have an educated guess it is because her mother and step father called her out on her bizzare behavior and she was having none of it so she cut them out of her and her sons life.

I am glad that Joe and SS's mom were able to reach out to each other in this tragic loss. That tells me what kind of man Joe is - one to put his childs needs and welfare first - a complete 180 of the monsters SS and NS.


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Where were these two going to get money for a wedding if they were going to apply for foodstamps, TANF, medicaid?

I hate to say this, but these two remind me of poor folks who try to dress like they have cash, but it is so obvious they didn't.

Then to have the audacity to add all those high end items on the bridal registry? I never in my life heard of having a bridal shower for a second marriage for both the bride and groom. Tacky.... very very tacky.

I realize the above is not really related to the case, other than to add to how pathetic these two were. Total trash, total scum.
YUP! Medicare/Medicaid/food stamps/and any other social program they can find. I can't make sense of 'crazy' and hopefully LE will tell us the 'why' of all this horror. moo Wonder how they were going to pay for the 2nd wedding - Nate's mom? Wonder if she has money and that's what Steph was after with the pics of Nate? just some thoughts.,..you're so right Cubby - trash!!!!!
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