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Old 05-28-2010, 09:14 PM
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Smart blond hi, forgive me I am not aware of who Stephanie is and I did not read every single post, she had pictures on face book, and I have no clue who she is.

Yes they could have both been afraid of each other or not.

But Can you explain to me why bother taking the kid, she could have left him with his father. Did she take him to abuse him????? because the abuse started instantly...
it was SOB boyfriend who did all the physical abuse.And it is SOB boyfriend whose eyes are scary.....I am not giving her a pass.....DON'T misunderstand me....She needs to be put away. But I do believe she is mentally ill. or else she would have made some attempt to save her son.

Yes the kid was dead when she went shopping but if she is operating from feeling terrorized she just continues to be terrified....It is just how fear is...I think she feared him, I do not think she took the boy from daddy just to abuse him, but I think she did not even make one attempt to save him not even an instinct....But she thought of taking pictures of the abuse, that HE DID!!!
They need to be put away. But I think she has a mental disability. IT IS JUST NOT NORMAL!
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What Iget from the documents is that she was just as abusive as he was. I don't think she just stood by and allowed him to abuse her son, which is bad enough, but I think she participated herself.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:15 PM
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Do we have any confirmation about drug use? TIA
By NS and SS ?

Not that I've seen. But the charging docs indicate they poisoned Ethan. There was a comment on one of the news articles before it even came out he'd been killed, made by someone claiming to be close to one of the investigators. It said he'd been given an overdose or poisoned. He claimed that SS had broke down and confessed, and his other comments (from what we know now) were accurate. One thing he said that was horribly disturbing (well it all is) was they placed dog food around where they'd buried him. Given that all his other comments were correct, I have to assume this was too.

Death is too good for these inhuman monsters.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:18 PM
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Instead of calling 911 she was taking this picture and uploading it to FB.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15114291
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:20 PM
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Instead of calling 911 she was taking this picture and uploading it to FB.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15114291
And updating her FB and wedding pages, messaging friends about her marriage, visiting NS's mom, going shopping, etc., etc.
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S.S. has no natural instincts for whatever reason. No one can understand why they did what they did.... but they did.
I just wonder humor me.....
Why did she take him in the first palace, she only had him less then 2 weeks before he was dead.?
she did not take him for that did she???
What was it? a 10 day pre honeymoon spree??? kill a boy?
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I'm feeling a time out for myself. Why would they put dog food around him? To attract animals to eat him up? Destroy DNA?
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Why did she take him in the first palace, she only had him less then 2 weeks before he was dead.?
she did not take him for that did she???
What was it? a 10 day pre honeymoon spree??? kill a boy?
Sadly, I think it was the only way she could retaliate on her ex-husband! Her and NS were both bitter, vengeful creatures that despised their ex's!
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:27 PM
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Why did she take him in the first palace, she only had him less then 2 weeks before he was dead.?
she did not take him for that did she???
What was it? a 10 day pre honeymoon spree??? kill a boy?
She hated Joe.

From reading their obsessed, crazy rants about each other on their wedding page, and from the messages she sent others and all we've heard about her, I truly believe they did this to cut all connections to Joe, so that she would be his (NS's) alone. They knew how much Joe loved that boy, and this was their way of getting to him where it would hurt the most. And like SS said... children are replaceable.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:28 PM
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I'm feeling a time out for myself. Why would they put dog food around him? To attract animals to eat him up? Destroy DNA?
Hi Ella, yes that is what the poster had stated that it was used for...I have taken many time outs on this case and I have cried/sobbed for Ethan and his Daddy like there was no tomorrow! This is honestly the worst case I have ever followed and has obviously affected so many of us at the core of our soul! I wish you peace, all of us peace in the coming days/ months as more evidence is released.
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Why did she take him in the first palace, she only had him less then 2 weeks before he was dead.?
she did not take him for that did she???
What was it? a 10 day pre honeymoon spree??? kill a boy?
I can't understand it. I wish I knew why. I'm taking deep breaths.
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I'm feeling a time out for myself. Why would they put dog food around him? To attract animals to eat him up? Destroy DNA?
That's what the person who made the comment said he was told.
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That's what the person who made the comment said he was told.
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By her own admission, SS went shopping on more than one occasion during this time. I hope LE has found videos and receipts of what she purchased---that could definitely provide proof this was premeditated.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:32 PM
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I can't understand it. I wish I knew why. I'm taking deep breaths.
I know.

It's going to get worse. We've not seen or heard the worst of it yet. Part of me wishes they'd plead to LWOP just so Joe doesn't have to hear what his baby endured.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:34 PM
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I know.

It's going to get worse. We've not seen or heard the worst of it yet. Part of me wishes they'd plead to LWOP just so Joe doesn't have to hear what his baby endured.
I agree, yet part of me also wants them to be squirming in their seat as the prosecution exposes all of their evil to the world!

...on second thought, the fact that they could commit these heinous acts proves that they have no soul therefore would feel no shame or remorse!

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That card signed by SS to Becky (Joe's fiancee).

Knowing now that the abuse was started from the time he arrived, and that he likely died on the 8th, that card had to have been mailed when SS knew Ethan was going to die.

JMO--- I think that trip to WalMart on Friday is when the card was purchased and mailed. I think they also purchased the items used to kill him (poison, drugs), items to clean up the evidence of their abuse, and items used to wrap and transport his body to where he was buried. Again, JMO, but I think evidence from that particular shopping trip will show their intent to kill Ethan and dispose of his body.
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I'm happy that Stephanie got married before being arrested.

Now, she no longer carries the same last name as Ethan and Joe. She didn't deserve that last name Stacy.

Very small comfort to me, but still...
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I'm happy that Stephanie got married before being arrested.

Now, she no longer carries the same last name as Ethan and Joe. She didn't deserve that last name Stacy.

Very small comfort to me, but still...
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Thank You for the pictures of Ethan. I had to go outside and say a little prayer something like this....OH GOD HELP ME. What a beautiful little man he was. How much he could have given to this world? Pain forever for his Daddy. I can't imagine his pain.
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You know, they say the Lord never gives us more than we can handle, but I am not sure how ANYONE can handle this?
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She hated Joe.

From reading their obsessed, crazy rants about each other on their wedding page, and from the messages she sent others and all we've heard about her, I truly believe they did this to cut all connections to Joe, so that she would be his (NS's) alone. They knew how much Joe loved that boy, and this was their way of getting to him where it would hurt the most. And like SS said... children are replaceable.
So why didn't she just abandon the child?
She hated Joe so much so she wanted to kill his boy???
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You know, they say the Lord never gives us more than we can handle, but I am not sure how ANYONE can handle this?
That quote has popped into my mind many times in the past 2 weeks...some ppl are blessed and gain strength in their faith when forced to deal with such sorrow and pain...some of us continue to lose faith.
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I agree, yet part of me also wants them to be squirming in their seat as the prosecution exposes all of their evil to the world!

...on second thought, the fact that they could commit these heinous acts proves that they have no soul therefore would feel no shame or remorse!
For all due purposes they already acknowledged that they had done all this. maybe they can just go to jail. Have a court case in closed court room so His father wont have to have this fiasco going on, and let them rot for ever.
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That quote has popped into my mind many times in the past 2 weeks...some ppl are blessed and gain strength in their faith when forced to deal with such sorrow and pain...some of us continue to lose faith.
Ethan would not want us to lose faith. Let's not do that. We must keep that and our hope that we can change things.Never give up.
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