CO CO - Denver, WhtMale (UP7170), 60-70, Rio Grande West Railroad, Sep'88

frankr · #1 05-25-2010, 07:48 PM

Since I live in Colorado, I though that I would "act locally". This case stuck out at me for some reason. The info is on the Denver coroner's page:

Year Case Gender Race Age Height Weight Hair Other
1988 Male Caucasian 60-70 5' 11.5" 138lbs Gray Frontal Balding
Where When Features Pictures
Rio Grande West Railroad at 6th St. & Navajo Hazel Eyes Picture 1

LINK - graphic post-mortem pic:

http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/259...4-Picture1.jpg

Anyway, does anyone think it could be this guy?
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/3926/0/

I can't get a good feel on the profile for that missing person, but the ears look close to me.

believe09 · #2 05-25-2010, 08:18 PM

I cannot pull up the John Doe website-is he listed anywhere else frankr?

frankr · #3 05-25-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by believe09

I cannot pull up the John Doe website-is he listed anywhere else frankr?

The body or the missing person? I haven't checked for either, but I could.

Billylee · #4 05-25-2010, 10:37 PM

Maybe just me, but that morgue picture looks like someone far older than the missing person. It also looks like what I'd describe as waaay more than just "frontal balding". All I got was picture of the morgue photo, no link to the description.

Also, wouldn't Namus at least mention if the missing person had full dentures? You'd think so. ?

frankr · #5 05-26-2010, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billylee

Maybe just me, but that morgue picture looks like someone far older than the missing person. It also looks like what I'd describe as waaay more than just "frontal balding". All I got was picture of the morgue photo, no link to the description.

Also, wouldn't Namus at least mention if the missing person had full dentures? You'd think so. ?

The Denver coroner doesn't have any description beyond what I posted unfortunately. Here is the full link:

http://www.denvergov.org/Unidentifie...8/Default.aspx

It certainly does go beyond frontal balding, but assuming that the guy went missing in Nov 1987 and the body was found in 1988 (no date specified), living on the street for 2+ months in Denver in winter is going to be tough on an older guy.

tatertot · #6 05-26-2010, 07:42 AM

Joe Clyde Lessley, missing July 28, 1988 from Los Angeles, looks a bit like him, but he has blue eyes and a tattoo not mentioned on the UID report:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lessley_joe.html

frankr · #7 05-26-2010, 01:00 PM

I called the Denver coroner this morning and sent my ID and tatertot's also.

frankr · #8 05-26-2010, 01:35 PM

I just spoke with the Denver Medical Examiner's office. The Denver UID man has no tattoo, so we can rule out Joe Lessley. The Denver UID was found with no teeth and also no dentures. He was found in September 1988, and the address where he was found is a bit off, the correct spot is 8th and Osage, near the train tracks. The only other new info she gave was that he had a smoking pipe.

frankr · #9 05-26-2010, 11:13 PM

Tomorrow I will call Phoenix PD and leave a message for the detective to see if he thinks the Denver UID is Patrick J Ratchford.

I discovered this during my search:

Denver has a 2004 "unidentified next of kin" for Kelly Dunn. DoeNetwork has a Kelly Sue Dunn missing since 1998. I have emailed my contact at the Denver coroner's office to see if she can make a match.

frankr · #10 05-27-2010, 10:59 PM

I spoke with a lady at NAMUS today, she will be contacting Phoenix PD to see if my first idea is a match.

tamar · #11 07-08-2010, 04:55 PM

I was just searching for Kelly on Google and came across this thread (I knew Kelly)

I am confused by the "unidentified next of kin" connection with the UID... please explain.

and did you ever hear back from the CO coroner, or AZ contact?

CarlK90245 · #12 07-08-2010, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamar

I was just searching for Kelly on Google and came across this thread (I knew Kelly)

I am confused by the "unidentified next of kin" connection with the UID... please explain.

and did you ever hear back from the CO coroner, or AZ contact?

Kelly Dunn is listed among persons for whom the Denver Office of the Medical Examiner is unable to locate family

http://www.denvergov.org/Unidentifie...9/Default.aspx

Not sure if she is the same Kelly Sue Dunn, as KSD is from Alaska.

If you know any of her family members, they should contact the telephone number at the above link, just to be sure.

tamar · #13 07-09-2010, 12:49 AM

Thanks Carl. I emailed the coroner.

Donjeta · #14 07-31-2011, 03:46 PM

According to Namus this man was found in May 1988, not September.

https://identifyus.org/cases/7170
(Postmortem photo at link.)