Found Deceased UT-Nathan&Stephanie Sloop charged w/murder of Ethan Stacy, 4, Layton, 10 May 2010 #8

[2goldfish]

I didnt see this in the timeline, it was mentioned here that SS was married earlier than Joe Stacy, whom she married at age 21

I found that interesting. so NS was her #3 at only 27 years old.

[believe09]

I am seriously impressed by the time lines, the organization of the media and the relentless championing of this little man who never had a chance in He** against these two monsters.

It takes some tough people to continue with a case that is so heartbreaking and I want to thank those of you who keep swimmin'.

[CCup]

This has been on my mind and I now feel the need to say it after seeing the latest pictures of Ethan on the facebook groups. I think it wonderful that there are all these facebook groups for Ethan and for Joe, but why do people feel the need to post pictures of Nathan & Stephanie right in the middle of all the pics of Ethan? I find it disturbing! I am sitting here looking at all the pics of Ethan and then out of nowhere there is a pic of Nathan or Stephanie or an electric chair. Ethan deserves a page to be ALL about him with no mention of the POS that killed him!

JMO, thanks for letting me vent.

[songline]

THANK YOU ALL for a job well done.
I think I am caught up.
While I agree that they both need to rot in jail.
I still think she has a mental disorder.

Poor Little Ethan had to endure the worst possible final days.
RIP little man

[grayjay]

Originally Posted by Calliope

Joe, her ex-husband, says Stephanie's mother once told him she had been diagnosed at age 13 with borderline personality disorder, a diagnosis Joe rejects. "It ain't no disorder. It's just the way she is."

There you have it. I take this to be the truth and an answer, not that it matters.

At this point and as our system works, it doesn't make a difference. People don't want to hear it, or believe it, much less have a clue what to do about it. So the cycles of abuse go on and on.

Whatever happened to her, happened before she was four years old. She probably doesn't even know. This insures that she is an abusive person, and possibly more so than whatever people imagine of NS.

[AmandaReckonwith]

That was a very eye-opening article with so much background. TY Calliope.

Here is the case archive album for Ethan:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...Ethan%20Stacy/

It does contain the good, the bad, the ugly, as all my case albums do.

[SuziQ]

Too bad that article glossed over NS's childhood. I'd be interested in hearing the non sanitized version.

[RubyRed]

Eyes4Crime here is a good link to have, with timeline. It has all pdf documents and FB links.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/ethanst...,4236143.story

[songline]

Originally Posted by AmandaReckonwith

That was a very eye-opening article with so much background. TY Calliope.

Here is the case archive album for Ethan:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...Ethan%20Stacy/

It does contain the good, the bad, the ugly, as all my case albums do.

There is one picture where Snoop = two oo become a hanging noose - I like that. these 2 should go away for life, they are hung.

[RubyRed]

Originally Posted by songline

There is one picture where Snoop = two oo become a hanging noose - I like that. these 2 should go away for life, they are hung.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=460&sid=10951084&pid=3


I posted it on last thread, it is my favorite too.

[songline]

Originally Posted by RubyRed

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=460&sid=10951084&pid=3


I posted it on last thread, it is my favorite too.

Thank you yes that one, very creative.
Quick thinking

[crimejunkie]

Originally Posted by Calliope

Hope I got all the background info transferred over...

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New article with some very disturbing insight into SS and NS:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15190371?source=rss

Calliope....great find with this article!!! Lots of info! This is great for the Stephanie time-line. I"ll use this to update the time-line later today! Thanks for locating it and sharing this! You did a great job pulling everything over here too!

[Herding Cats]

In the slideshow that RubyRed linked (great photo of nooses, btw), I was appalled to see that NS was wearing rosary beads around his neck. If he's catholic, then I'm the Jolly Green Giant.

Appalled, disgusted, and outraged. Claiming religious icons at this time? Oh please. Where was your religion when you were killing a child? When you were defiling and desecrating him?

This whole thing makes me sad unto my soul, and I cry for justice for both Ethan and for Joe. My prayers are for them...for the torment Joe is in, and for the peace and joy Ethan has now recieved. For Ethan is in the Arms of He who Loves, and is at rest...after enduring the most horrific thing I can imagine; "suffer the little children" was not an actual direction, Nathan...Ethan was not yours to brutalize and torture. Ethan was, and is, God's. And now Ethan is Home...out of your nasty hands and hatefilled life.

Rot in hell, Nathan. No rosary beads around your neck is going to do you any good...

HC

[Paintr]

Originally Posted by Herding Cats

In the slideshow that RubyRed linked (great photo of nooses, btw), I was appalled to see that NS was wearing rosary beads around his neck. If he's catholic, then I'm the Jolly Green Giant.

Appalled, disgusted, and outraged. Claiming religious icons at this time? Oh please. Where was your religion when you were killing a child? When you were defiling and desecrating him?

This whole thing makes me sad unto my soul, and I cry for justice for both Ethan and for Joe. My prayers are for them...for the torment Joe is in, and for the peace and joy Ethan has now recieved. For Ethan is in the Arms of He who Loves, and is at rest...after enduring the most horrific thing I can imagine; "suffer the little children" was not an actual direction, Nathan...Ethan was not yours to brutalize and torture. Ethan was, and is, God's. And now Ethan is Home...out of your nasty hands and hatefilled life.

Rot in hell, Nathan. No rosary beads around your neck is going to do you any good...

HC

IIRC Casey Anthony was also wearing a rosary while she was visiting her lawyer's office just before she was charged with murder. Too bad these 'people' don't find a religion, any religion, before they hurt children.

[RubyRed]

Originally Posted by Paintr

I thought I had read every post about Ethan but I guess I missed some. Could someone please explain to me about the dog food and the grave?

TIA!

sbbm

There was a comment after one of the news stories, where someone said they heard dog food was put around the grave, to attract animals. This person said other things that turned out to be correct. As for an actual news story reporting it or LE there has not been anything.

[crimejunkie]

Time-Line for Stephanie Croft-Stacy-Sloop (updated/edited--new or updated information italicized)

• Stephanie Christine Croft was born on 1/21/83 to Katrina Busby and unknown father in Michigan, Stephanie Croft reports her heritage as Greek and Irish. *Unknown Date of Birth*
•Step-father John Busby
•Stephanie has two paternal half-siblings. Her oldest brother, Greg Croft, saw Stephanie once when she was an infant. The siblings did not meet again until 2007, after Stephanie located him on Myspace. She also has a teen half-brother whom she met for the first time around 2008, while visiting family in Michigan. His name is unknown.

Childhood:
•Stephanie reported to a co-worker in 2009 that her biological father was abusive and he abandoned her. Her brother Greg described their father as a “rolling stone” and stated he had little involvement in their lives. Stephanie visited Greg in Michigan around 2008, with her then husband, Joe Stacy and child, Ethan Stacy (along with Joe’s children from a previous marriage). They made a trip to visit their father and half-brother at that time, who also live in Michigan.
•Stephanie and her mother moved to Florida when Stephanie was a young girl.
•Stephanie reports she began modeling as a child.

Adolescent/Teen Years:
•1995—Stepanie Croft (12yrs) meets Nathan Sloop (15/16 yrs old). Nathan is the boyfriend of Stephanie’s best friend’s sister. Croft and Sloop will marry fifteen years later.
•Stephanie Croft and Nathan Sloop both attend High School in Orlando, but due to their age difference (four years) they did not attend high school together.
•Stephanie attended Edgewater High School in Orlando. She graduated in 2001.
• As a teen, Stephanie would sneak out of her house at night to meet with boys.
• Stephanie falsely accused her step-father of physical abuse, according to an ex-friend. The charge was dismissed.
•Stephanie's mother disclosed to Joe Stacy that Stephanie was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder at age 13.

Young Adult Years:
•2001—Stephanie is employed as a “Jager Girl” (Jagermeister Promotions in bars/clubs/events)
•2002-2004—Stephanie is employed as a “Bud Girl” (Budweiser Promotions in bars/clubs/events)
•Stephanie had a brief marriage, but no further information is known at this time about the marriage or the groom.

Marriage to Joe Stacy and Military History:
•Unknown—Stephanie meets Joe Stacy while they are both enlisted in the military. Joe is in the process of a divorce with Michelle Rodriguez, with whom he shares two children.
•Stephanie reported on Windows Live that she was discharged from the military due to an injury sometime prior to 2007. Joe Stacy reports that she was *not* honorably discharged from the Air Force during basic training.
•When Stephanie is 21, she and Joe Stacy marry. Stephanie becomes pregnant with Ethan Stacy
•The family mainly resided in Orlando, but spent three years in Savannah, GA were Joe Stacy was stationed at Hunter Army Airfield.
•September 22, 2005 Ethan Stacy born at Fort Stewart Army Base in Savannah, GA, to Stephanie Croft-Stacy and Joe Stacy.
•2008—Stephanie reports on Model Mayhems that she has modeled nude and would like to explore a career in fashion and/ or artistic pictures. She states she’ll be in “Hot Housewives—Playboy Edition in 2009”
•Stephanie has a lot of prescriptions from doctors. Joe reports she always knows what to tell them.
•Late 2008--Joe is injured at work and Stephanie begins commuting to Las Vegas to work as a exotic dancer, a profession she has previously worked in back in Orlando.
•Early 2009—Stephanie employed at Wing House. According to a co-worker, she reports a happy marriage to Joe. Her comments suggest that she is jealous of Joe’s ex-wife, Michelle, and states that she is the real mother figure to Michelle’s two children, as the children were living with the Stacy's while Michelle worked as a flight attendant. Most initially report Stephanie as a good mother to Ethan at this time and normal family activities, such as time with friends, vacations, cook-outs, etc… However, they also report that Stephanie often lies, is overly concerned with money and can be vindictive.
• Michelle and Joe's children report that Stephanie insisted they call her "mom" and their bio mom by her first name. They also state that Stephanie would hit them with a metal spatula and slap them in the head with the back of her hand, hitting them with her diamond ring. The oldest child reports that Stephanie made him care for Ethan while Joe was working. She reportedly also made the children make her alcoholic beverages and clean until things were spotless.
•Stephanie reportedly sold laptops that were given to Joe and Michelle’s children as a gift. She also took money from the children, given to them by their mother. Stephanie threw away the children’s clothes that their mother sent for them.
•Joe reported that Stephanie could be viewed as a good mother in public, but behind closed doors things were different. She was narcissistic and had to be “number one.” Joe reports that he tried to get her to be more of a mother, but that she was not cut out for that. He said, “She just is a person with no patience.”
•Stephanie has breast augmentation surgery.
•She participates in some modeling photos and in August 2009 Stephanie contacts a previous co-worker on Facebook asking for a photographer, as she hopes to begin modeling again. She also is planning a trip home to Orlando.
• August 2009, Stephanie and Joe Stacy have a fight. Stephanie accuses Joe of choking her. Joe spends a few hours in jail, but charges were never filed. After the fight, Joe returned to Orlando with Ethan, his other children, Destrian and Alisa went to live with their mother in Illinois.
•October 2009--Joe Stacy files for divorce from Stephanie Stacy. Both parents were ordered to complete parenting classes per Florida law. The Uniform Child Custody Act was invoked due to the parents living in two different states.

Time in Las Vegas
•Tina Rieyes, (friend of Stephanie Stacy) reports that she has a girls trip with Stephanie in Las Vegas. Tina states that Stephanie begins to do a “180” during the trip.
•September 2009—Stephanie reports to her brother that she and her husband are having trouble. Stephanie relocates to Las Vegas to "find work" and Joe plans to follow her with the family in August. However, his ex-wife Michelle fights him over the move, as the children would be too far from her.
•Stephanie works as an exotic dancer in Las Vegas, after a failed attempt to work in the law enforcement field.

Life with Nathan Sloop and Divorce from Joe Stacy
•October 8, 2009--Nathan Sloop responds to a message from Stephanie Stacy on Facebook. They talk on the phone for 24 hours straight and within 24 hours of their first phone call, Stephanie is on a plane to Utah to meet Nathan in person on October 9th. They share their first kiss moments after reuniting. Nathan reported that the couple has not spent one night apart since that date. Stephanie recounts on theknot.com that she and Nathan “began with full disclosure so that way our ex's couldn't try and use things against us. Its proven to make our relationship even stronger. “
•November 2009—Joe Stacy files for an Emergency Motion for Custody and writes in court documents that Stephanie Stacy is “unstable” and he fears she will flee with Ethan Stacy. While this is occurring, Nathan Sloop’s ex-wife requests a restraining order from Nathan Sloop, after he leaves threatening messages on her voicemail. She reports being afraid to send her daughter to Nathan’s for the Thanksgiving holiday, as she is worried he will harm their daughter to get back at her. She writes in court documents that Nathan has “multiple personality disorder” and he was physically abusive during their marriage.
•December 2009—Stephanie loses twins --discloses an ectopic pregnancy, a cyst on her ovary and a blood clot that required a lengthy surgery. She states, “you can always have more children, but Nathan couldn’t replace me.” She also discloses that this is the second time that Nathan “saved” her life. The first apparently being taking her to the hospital when she began to bleed while pregnant with the twins and another when he caught her during a fall brought on by an episode of diabetic shock. She discloses that she does not believe she would have lived through these events, if she had not been with Nathan.
•February 3, 2010— Despite Joe’s concerns regarding Stephanie in November, the couple reached a settlement agreement with the assistance of a mediator. The agreement allowed for Ethan to spend the school year with his father and spring break and summers with Stephanie Stacy in Utah. Reportedly, Stephanie agreed to allow Joe to retain custody as long as Joe paid Stephanie half of an insurance settlement that was due to be issued to him regarding an injury at work.If Stephanie receives no money from Joe, she regains custody of Ethan. She reports to a friend, Carla Jones that she "sold" her son. Stephanie is not required to pay child support. It also prohibited Stephanie Stacy’s mother and step-father from having contact with Ethan, Stephanie or Joe Stacy, but there is no additional information regarding the reasoning. The agreement was signed by both Stephanie Stacy and Joe Stacy on this day.
•March 2010—Nathan Sloop’s ex-wife moves to have a permanent restraining order put in place against Nathan Sloop. Joe Stacy reported in May 2010, that he was threatened several times via text message by Nathan Sloop in the six months prior to Ethan's visit.
•April 2010—Stephanie reports to friend, Amber Navarre Llewellyn that she is excited to pick up Ethan and plans to keep him “for good.” Joe reported later that Stephanie only used Ethan as a pawn to get what she wanted. Many friends report a change in Stephanie while she is with Nathan. She appears "obsessed" with the relationship. At some point, the couple become engaged and set a July 4th wedding date.
•April 28, 2010—Joe Stacy appeared for a ten minute final divorce hearing. Stephanie Stacy did not show. The Judge stated it was a “cut and dried” and the settlement was uncontested. She later admitted that she never read Joe’s petition for emergency custody filed in November 2009, as the agreement came after that filing.

Ethan's Visit
•April 28, 2010-May 9, 2010—Ethan Stacy is physically abused by Nathan and Stephanie Sloop. Stephanie documents the abuse via pictures and videos on her cell phone. Stephanie was also calling Joe Stacy to complain about Ethan’s behavior.
•May 6, 2010 --Stephanie Stacy and Nathan Sloop marry in a Utah courthouse eight days after her divorce from Joe Stacy, while Ethan Stacy is locked in a bedroom at home due to his injuries.
•May 7, 2010—Stephanie leaves her friend, Carla Jones, frantic messages stating that Ethan is crying, won’t stop and is asking for his mommy. She reports she does not know what to do and asks Jones to please call her. She calls a second time, but Jones states that Stephanie is hysterical, she can’t understand what the message says. Jones reports that she did not call back. Jones describes Stephanie as “…very conniving, manipulating and deceiving person," Jones stated, "She would sell her own mother if it was going to get her something….She was not a fit mother….She was not a fit wife. She had a personality disorder. She had anger issues. She should have never had that child."
•May 9, 2010, Becky Elswick (Joe Stacy's fiancée) receives a Mother’s Day card that says, “Love your son, Ethan” in Stephanie Sloops handwriting. She finds this strange, as Stephanie disliked her. Joe reports that each time he calls Ethan, Stephanie and/or Nathan have a reason why he cannot talk at the time. Joe and Becky discuss that Nathan's tone of voice has changed during recent calls.
•May 10, 2010—Ethan Stacy is reported missing by Nathan and Stephanie Sloop
•May 11, 2010—Ethan Stacy’s body is recovered. Nathan and Stephanie Sloop are arrested.
•May 14, 2010—Nathan and Stephanie Sloop make their first court appearance. Nathan Sloop cries. Stephanie was silent, though her attorney stated she was “very emotional.” Both waived their right to bail until their second hearing on May, 28, 2010. Charges are also delayed until this time.
•May 26, 2010—ABC4 reports they wrote Stephanie Sloop a letter asking details of her life. She responded, “HA, HA, HA (in capital letters she writes), I've invoked my right to remain silent or didn't my attorney already say that?”
•May 29, 2010--Nathan and Stephanie Sloop make their second court appearance and are charged with aggravated murder, second degree felony child abuse, second degree felony obstruction of justice and third degree felony abuse or desecration of a body. Nathan Sloop also charged with third degree damaging a jail cell.

http://www.deseretnews.com/mobile/ar...steal-boy.html
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_15099438?source=most_viewed
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http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=10829135
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_15074193?source=pkg
http://open.salon.com/blog/kathy_rio...of_ethan_stacy
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/sta....cspx?rss=1451
http://www.sltrib.com/D=g/ci_15142408
http://www.standard.net/topics/court...tephanie-sloop
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=10769121
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15190371?source=rss

[crimejunkie]

I am not sure, but that I read on here that you were not allowed to pull something from another site and bring it over here. I hope that it's ok to post a link. If it's not, please let me know.

In the comments section of the article posted today about Nathan and Stephanie, there was a comment on page 3 by Spookylilgirl, who knew the couple via chat rooms. She had some interesting comments and posted some favorite sayings of Nathan's. If I am allowed to post these, please let me know. Otherwise, here's the link:

http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/re...71&PageIndex=3

[grayjay]

Originally Posted by crimejunkie

I am not sure, but that I read on here that you were not allowed to pull something from another site and bring it over here. I hope that it's ok to post a link. If it's not, please let me know.

In the comments section of the article posted today about Nathan and Stephanie, there was a comment on page 3 by Spookylilgirl, who knew the couple via chat rooms. She had some interesting comments and posted some favorite sayings of Nathan's. If I am allowed to post these, please let me know. Otherwise, here's the link:

http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/re...71&PageIndex=3

Wow! Hearsay, but still. If there's a chat log somewhere, it would support a notion that Nathan had killing Ethan totally justified in his mind ahead of time. I'm sure Mr Rawlings would like that handed to him, dates and all, but it seems unlikely to happen.

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by grayjay

There you have it. I take this to be the truth and an answer, not that it matters.

At this point and as our system works, it doesn't make a difference. People don't want to hear it, or believe it, much less have a clue what to do about it. So the cycles of abuse go on and on.

Whatever happened to her, happened before she was four years old. She probably doesn't even know. This insures that she is an abusive person, and possibly more so than whatever people imagine of NS.

It seems that many but not all persons with BPD were abused as a child. Though it seems she does fit the criteria, I'm a little suspicious that she was diagnosed as a teen. Regardless, this doesn't make her incompetent to stand trial, nor does it mean she didn't know right from wrong. In fact, IMO, if she truly is borderline, I think this points to her being a willing participant in the abuse.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publi...et/index.shtml

http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/di...rderlinepd.htm

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by crimejunkie

Calliope....great find with this article!!! Lots of info! This is great for the Stephanie time-line. I"ll use this to update the time-line later today! Thanks for locating it and sharing this! You did a great job pulling everything over here too!

Thanks! I put your updated timeline on the start of the thread. I couldn't use quote tags because it doesn't show the italics.

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by grayjay

Wow! Hearsay, but still. If there's a chat log somewhere, it would support a notion that Nathan had killing Ethan totally justified in his mind ahead of time. I'm sure Mr Rawlings would like that handed to him, dates and all, but it seems unlikely to happen.

IIRC, Mr. Rawlings said they were searching their computers and other electronics. If NS had his account set to save chat logs...

[LadyL]

perhaps someone could contact that person and ask for copies of chat logs or any other evidence she may be in possession of

I haven't found anything in yahoochat - was looking for their 'profiles' but am not willing to download

found the person who made the claims on other sites including ms

[nursebeeme]

before I lose internet access during our military move.. I just have to chime in my opinion:

THEY BOTH SUCK.

They make me sick and there is no excuse... MENTAL or otherwise.

Happy Memorial Day to all who serve.

[grayjay]

There is no excuse. If a person has ever been abused, they know how bad it feels. It's a choice they make early on, to do unto others instead of learning a better way to be and not doing the same and worse bad things.

[Paintr]

Originally Posted by RubyRed

sbbm

There was a comment after one of the news stories, where someone said they heard dog food was put around the grave, to attract animals. This person said other things that turned out to be correct. As for an actual news story reporting it or LE there has not been anything.

Thank you kindly for answering my question, RubyRed. I hadn't heard that before. I guess it makes sense, in a twisted kind of way. :{