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HERE ARE THE COFFEE VIDEOS WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!
He leaves the room at 8:13:34 (the video time-stamp at the room is approx. 11 minutes later than in the lobby), exits the lobby at 8:01:55, enters lobby with coffee at 8:11:46, enters room with coffee at 8:24:44. Then the video sequence we've already seen...he leaves the room with 2 coffees at 8:35:50
http://www.radaronline.com/photos/im...-van-der-sloot
Great find, Kimmer!
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Just noticed that there's another photo that we've never seen (#5), showing him in the lobby at 8:26:05....this must be where he's asking someone to unlock the room...during the 'fake' coffee incident.
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HERE ARE THE COFFEE VIDEOS WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!
He leaves the room at 8:13:34 (the video time-stamp at the room is approx. 11 minutes later than in the lobby), exits the lobby at 8:01:55, enters lobby with coffee at 8:11:46, enters room with coffee at 8:24:44. Then the video sequence we've already seen...he leaves the room with 2 coffees at 8:35:50
http://www.radaronline.com/photos/im...-van-der-sloot
Great find, Kimmer!
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I am not seeing a photo stamped 8:01:55. HELP!
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I am going to search for a link, but I recall either hearing or reading that JVDS was going to be brought to the court on Monday for the judge because conditions in the prison were too dangerous for the judge to go there. I will be back as soon as I find something, but I am certain that I heard that more than once - it may have been on Jane Velez Mitchell's show, but can't say for sure.
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Yes, it is Monday and I recorded that info yesterday and it is in the Media Forum. I was looking for the press release, and a member posted a link which has a host of things listed.
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- So, leaving his room at about 8:13, cigarette in mouth.
- Passing through lobby at about 8:02 - tape behind by 11 or so minutes as many here have discussed before.
- Returning to room with coffee purchases at about 8:24.
Is the still shot where he leaves the room at about 8:35 - the empty coffee cups and limp hand freak out we've seen on the previous released coffee/employee opening room videotape?
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Everywhere now there are reports that Stephanie won $10,000.00 that night. This is what her brother said last night on Larry King.
Also that Joran robbed her. If this is so why didn't he have the money to pay the cab drivers. I heard that he paid them $500.00, but where did the money go he stole? tia
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I deleted my comment about the set of clothes after watching the casino video a hundred more times..
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So this is more or less the beginning of the actual fact finding done. Can last between 3-12 mos, prior to the actual trial. Is this summarization correct? TIA
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That is my understanding.
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As per Chris Cuomo on The View yesterday, Melody said that she discovered later, when Joran's book was published, that he says the entire time he was romancing her he was cheating on her with other girls. What a cad!! (I won't say anything stronger, trying to be nice.)
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No, I don't have a link. I live it. I have to supply my brother with money so that he can purchase those supplies.
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I've mentioned before that I used to visit an American woman in a Thai prison. It began because a cry went out from my church on behalf of this young woman as she was said to be very down and hopeless having just been sentenced to life in a Thai prison for drug trafficking. Not knowing what to expect, I went because I felt propelled to do so.
I never visited empty handed. At first the guards let me bring her items (kleenex, lip gloss, t-paper, soap, moisture lotion) from the outside. I went to a side entrance, handed the stuff over, they examined it and passed it on to her within a few days. I know they did because they next time I'd see her, I'd ask her if she received the items. I didn't bring a whole loadful each time - two or three things, etc. Then, one day, I was told that only items from the prison store would be allowed to be bought for prisoners. I always sent her an apple or some fruitjuice from there anyway but I could buy better quality t-paper and stuff on the outside. I figured they wanted the business at the prison store (that's how innocently I thought).
Little did I know (I figured this out in hindsight), she had been building up quite a 'store' which equated to power among her fellow prisoners. All of a sudden she became a have versus one of the have nots. Her spirits rose accordingly.  My intentions had not been to build her empire but unknowingly I had been doing that.
By providing items from the prison shop, my girl was still well taken care of but wasn't able to barter using 'better' goods.
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I see Joran coming out of his room at 8:13:34 with a cigarette in his mouth and his hands sort of bend by his side. I don't see coffee any coffee in his hands and the door is partially open.
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FINALLY!!!! Pictures of JVDS leaving hotel for coffee maybe?! Look at time stamp in pictures 9 & 10!
Patty G. It's not the video, but we have pictures of him leaving earlier, but notice it's still the striped shirt!
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I see the pictures and I am looking for the picture stamped 8:01 that is mentioned in the original post.
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As per Chris Cuomo on The View yesterday, Melody said that she discovered later, when Joran's book was published, that he says the entire time he was romancing her he was cheating on her with other girls. What a cad!! (I won't say anything stronger, trying to be nice.)
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According to the article, she will be on 20/20 this Friday to discuss JVS.
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I haven't said it but I was thinking and wondering if she was wearing his shirt when she was murdered. I'm thinking blood on the both pairs of shoes indicate they were standing at some point. IMO
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We've been waiting for the tape of VDS purchasing the coffee wearing his shirt from earlier that evening. Doesn't exist.
IMO, doesn't mean that she wasn't wearing his shirt that evening. Same with if findings state no consensual sex, or attempted sexual assault (Only me - I won't believe it.).
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It looks like from the stills that radaroline has you can see JVS coming thru the hotel lobby in his stipped shirt carry cofee...I wonder if this is when they say he left and went and got the 2 cups.
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As per Chris Cuomo on The View yesterday, Melody said that she discovered later, when Joran's book was published, that he says the entire time he was romancing her he was cheating on her with other girls. What a cad!! (I won't say anything stronger, trying to be nice.)
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He's a sociopath for sure. No conscious whatsoever - even back then. Did what he felt like doing no matter if right or wrong.
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We've been waiting for the tape of VDS purchasing the coffee wearing his shirt from earlier that evening. Doesn't exist.
IMO, doesn't mean that she wasn't wearing his shirt that evening. Same with if findings state no consensual sex. (Only me - I won't believe it.)
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Well now we know he went to get the coffee in the striped shirt.
There looked to be little blood on her shirt, but plenty on his. I don't know if this means she was wearing his shirt when struck in the head, or he used it to smother her as he claimed.
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I see the pictures and I am looking for the picture stamped 8:01 that is mentioned in the original post.
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They must have taken it out. I saw it earlier. Two photos in the lobby, one of him going out of the hotel, and one of him returning with the coffees.
8:01:55-25 (Hotel Lobby time)
8:11:46-19 (Hotel Lobby time)
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I am not seeing a photo stamped 8:01:55. HELP!
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Wow...it's gone!! The photos I had listed as 08:01:55, 08:11:46, 08:24:44 are no longer on that website. Seems they've been replaced by photos in the 'fake' coffee sequence.
Bet they weren't supposed to be shown to the public!! And, darn, I only captured the first!!
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I saw it before, I think it may have been removed. I'm going to see ig I can find it in my cache.
The picture showed JVDS still holding the cigarette as he walked through the lobby.
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I will put a slideshow together of the pictures posted from Radar On Line.
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I saw it before, I think it may have been removed. I'm going to see ig I can find it in my cache.
The picture showed JVDS still holding the cigarette as he walked through the lobby.
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Thank you as I would like to add that to the slideshow.
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I see the pictures and I am looking for the picture stamped 8:01 that is mentioned in the original post.
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Patty, I think it is the difference in the time on the two cameras, we already discussed that.
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So Joran travels with baoding balls....maybe thats what he was doing with his right hand under the poker table...?
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