MO - AMBER ALERT: Alisa Maier, 4, Louisiana, 5 July 2010 - #3

Cubby · #1 07-08-2010, 11:50 PM

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Carmen29 · #2 07-09-2010, 12:02 AM

I thought I heard on Fox 2news in st louis that they were wondering if this guy had something to do with another abduction of a girl. so i watched and waited but never heard anything. just wondering if anyone heard this? There have been a lot of abducted kids in this area. and a few children murdered. wish we could solve them all

kbl8201 · #3 07-09-2010, 12:03 AM

ironically she looks happy in that pic of her on the bike

ok im being a twit.

so glad she can be a kid again.

and im glad scumbag didnt survive.

sadnpod · #4 07-09-2010, 12:25 AM

Thank you so much for the links, cake. much appreciated.

Goodnite all.
Maybe tomorrow another missing person will be found. Or maybe another sicko will be removed from the earth.

Either way is cause for celebration. Sleep well in your home sweet Alisa. RIP sweet Somer.. dance somer dance, sing somer sing... forever in our hearts.

Fairy1 · #5 07-09-2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kbl8201

ironically she looks happy in that pic of her on the bike

ok im being a twit.

so glad she can be a kid again.

and im glad scumbag didnt survive.

Why is it ironic? She's a child and she SHOULD be happy - whatever she's doing!

God willing - she has always been a kid.

Bless her little heart!

kbl8201 · #6 07-09-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairy1

Why is it ironic? She's a child and she SHOULD be happy - whatever she's doing!

God willing - she has always been a kid.

Bless her little heart!

i know. i was making fun of my earlier comments

hollyblue · #7 07-09-2010, 06:15 AM

I wonder if she might have been asleep in the car when he went in to Walmart? I hope, but seriously doubt he would have taken that chance...so where was she? JO had ties to Troy and Troy was where the WM was located.

Surely LE/media will follow through and let us know the whereabouts, etc, re: JO....and if there were any connections to the "sudden death" at the Weil addy as well as Jeff Smith's murder. Here's hoping they find tons of evidence in JO's house if he was connected...or had been up to his "porn" tricks again.

I sincerely think these types have very different wiring from the norm since they can't/won't choose to change.

ghostlady · #8 07-09-2010, 11:24 AM

Apparently the gun used to kill Jeff Smith was not the one Alisa's abductor used to kill himself.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story...206612&catid=3

Stella5 · #9 07-09-2010, 12:26 PM

Yet they haven't ruled out that he was involved in the Jeff Smith murder, and what is very interesting is they activated the Major Case Squad on that case indefinitely. That rarely happens. Fox is reporting that they are still looking at PS as the suspect in that case because of the similarities to the one in Troy he was involved with. Why was this guy even out of jail?

http://www.fox2now.com/news/ktvi-ali...,5263806.story

Stella5 · #10 07-09-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hollyblue

I wonder if she might have been asleep in the car when he went in to Walmart? I hope, but seriously doubt he would have taken that chance...so where was she? JO had ties to Troy and Troy was where the WM was located.

Surely LE/media will follow through and let us know the whereabouts, etc, re: JO....and if there were any connections to the "sudden death" at the Weil addy as well as Jeff Smith's murder. Here's hoping they find tons of evidence in JO's house if he was connected...or had been up to his "porn" tricks again.

I sincerely think these types have very different wiring from the norm since they can't/won't choose to change.

Who knows? I wonder what time he was taped at Walmart, you would think LE would have released that. The media has gotten so strange on this, almost like they were told to back off of it for now and focus on Alisas homecoming. The story about the body being found can still be found if you google...

"Body pulled from former home of kidnapper Paul Smith | ksdk.com ...
The apartment complex is in the 7001 block of Weil Avenue. Police have not commented on how the person died, but are right now calling it a sudden death. ...
http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story...yid=206494...3 - 23 hours ago"

But the story has been pulled for whatever reason. Normally bodies being found are at the top of every newscast. So did they, or did they not find a body at this address? And if so, whose body is it? Too many weird coincidences going on in this case pointing straight at PS.

watchful_eye · #11 07-09-2010, 12:37 PM

THANK G-D:

1. Alisa was found alive and UNHARMED.

2. Smith is DEAD! WOOOO HOOO!!! One less scumbag on earth!!! He did what the justice system SHOULD be doing when these men are convicted!

3. Alisa was able to identify Smith as the one who "cut her hair" This further proves his guilt, in addition to him spray-painting his car.

4. For security cameras! (Walmart)

5. For WONDERFUL, kind, caring people like the couple who stayed with Alisa when they found her until the police arrived.

colette · #12 07-09-2010, 12:57 PM

"They were looking for evidence in both Monday's kidnapping of the little girl from Louisiana, Missouri and Saturday's murder of Hawk Point garage owner Jeffery Smith."

My guesss, he tried to get Jeffery Smith to paint his car, Jeffery figures out "this guy" is the kidnapper and gets murdered.

watchful_eye · #13 07-09-2010, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Stella5:

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Why was this guy even out of jail?

I KNOW, right?!! *rolls eyes* It should be a federal CRIME to let people like him back on the streets.

tiredblondy · #14 07-09-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stella5

Who knows? I wonder what time he was taped at Walmart, you would think LE would have released that. The media has gotten so strange on this, almost like they were told to back off of it for now and focus on Alisas homecoming. The story about the body being found can still be found if you google...

"Body pulled from former home of kidnapper Paul Smith | ksdk.com ...
The apartment complex is in the 7001 block of Weil Avenue. Police have not commented on how the person died, but are right now calling it a sudden death. ...
www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=206494...3 - 23 hours ago"

But the story has been pulled for whatever reason. Normally bodies being found are at the top of every newscast. So did they, or did they not find a body at this address? And if so, whose body is it? Too many weird coincidences going on in this case pointing straight at PS.

You know I saw the original story said basically what you quoted above but then as you said when you click the link now the story disappeared. Sounds like the news was either wrong or told to pull the story by LE. Perhaps they are looking at far more than we can imagine. Bet they are fingerprinting every inch of that house to identify anyone who could have possibly been there. No telling all they've found. Maybe we will know eventually.

Stella did your husband find out why a RO was living at the address down the street from you??? I was just wondering.

cakeconnoiseur · #15 07-09-2010, 02:09 PM

Considering how fast they pulled the story, it was probably completely unrelated. The media was already set up at the Weil address (a corporate apartment complex with numerous units), and probably saw an ambulance or police arrive and rushed the story out before all the details were verified.

Valleyboy · #16 07-09-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by colette

"They were looking for evidence in both Monday's kidnapping of the little girl from Louisiana, Missouri and Saturday's murder of Hawk Point garage owner Jeffery Smith."

My guesss, he tried to get Jeffery Smith to paint his car, Jeffery figures out "this guy" is the kidnapper and gets murdered.

The garage owner was killed 2 days before the kidnapping so there was no way he figured out this guy is the kidnapper.

Stella5 · #17 07-09-2010, 02:53 PM

Cake, what do you mean by corporate apartments? These aren't high-end units by any stretch of the imagination and the location they are in isn't the most desirable to live in STL. http://www.millsproperties.net/property.html (Park Val is the complex if it doesn't link right)

tiredblondy, we still don't know. he's been down there 3x already and no one has been home. The neighbors across the street will call us when they see their car come home. Very interesting thing, now there is an rv camper in the driveway - which is NOT allowed in our subdivision. so he can go on offical hoa business while figuring it out. and i was wrong about the guy, his conviction was against a 6 year old, not a 10 year old.

Stella5 · #18 07-09-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cakeconnoiseur

Considering how fast they pulled the story, it was probably completely unrelated. The media was already set up at the Weil address (a corporate apartment complex with numerous units), and probably saw an ambulance or police arrive and rushed the story out before all the details were verified.

I'm going to disagree with this. I think they pulled it because its related. How many other "body found" stories have they ever pulled? They were all over the body found in the school yard a few weeks ago, the burning body in East STL, and the everyday shootings on the North Side. So why put this out for about an hour, and then pull it. Something is up.

cakeconnoiseur · #19 07-09-2010, 03:06 PM

By corporate, I meant corporately owned as opposed to privately owned.

LMax · #20 07-09-2010, 03:33 PM

http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Paul-...-98125484.html
Suspect in kidnapping case attended high school in Louisiana, Missouri

colette · #21 07-09-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Valleyboy

The garage owner was killed 2 days before the kidnapping so there was no way he figured out this guy is the kidnapper.

Thanks, you are correct. I got the days turned around in my head. But they still could be connected somehow.

Stella5 · #22 07-09-2010, 04:52 PM

JO has turned himself into LE!!! Also reporting evidence found at suicide scene may be linked to Jeff Smith homicide!

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story...206707&catid=3

sadnpod · #23 07-09-2010, 05:12 PM

Thanks so much for this info. Please keep posting... its hard to get any new info this far away. Has JO been arrested? Anyone know? Very interesting article...THANK YOU!!

sadnpod · #24 07-09-2010, 05:28 PM

http://dailyme.com/story/20100709000...pers-home.html

snipped by me
He also faced forgery charges connected to a home break-in in Bowling Green, Mo. That break-in also occured in November 2009. Richard Fowler, the owner of the home, contacted police after $40, two air guns, two blank checks and credit cards were stolen from his home. Smith, an old friend of Fowler's son, had visited the Fowler home prior to the break-in, Fowler said. The forgery charges were still pending at the time of Paul Smith's suicide.

Good info here too

http://www.fox2now.com/news/ktvi-fow...,1721377.story

snipped by me:
Richard Fowler says Smith and his son Jerry have been friends since the 1980s. Smith and the two Fowlers have one disturbing thing in common: all three have been convicted of sexual assault against a child. They're all sex offenders.

So it appears Paul Smith also robbed Richard Fowlers home?

sadnpod · #25 07-09-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by colette

Thanks, you are correct. I got the days turned around in my head. But they still could be connected somehow.

Im gonna bet on (what is only my opinion that paul smith) was involved and that they are connected.