2010.08.05 Dominic Casey emails

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Originally Posted by AZlawyer

I thought the pushpin map was pretty clearly DC's way of showing Luke where Ginny had sent him to search that morning, identifying the 2 spots where he searched (the abandoned house and Suburban Drive).

That's what it looks like to me, too. They are dated Nov 15 @ 7:51PM which would be after his search on that day.

It is very interesting to read further on, too. Apparently they are looking at properties that are connected to the names Cruz, Baez and Rivera. (See pages 21361 +)

[Solace]

Originally Posted by countzero

Yeppers, CA is quite the "actor" when she "needs" to be. Notice in correlation of how homely she looked at the last hearing. But that is for another thread.

Sorry, no disrespect for your opinion on this one, but after this media show CA must of had her meds adjusted. Not enough to tell the truth; but adjusted enough to continue her rant and rage.

I know and I hear ya. All sympathy for her goes out the window when she tries to implicate the innocent.

If I think about how she treated Melich and Allan who genuinely care, it is outrageous. They did an excellent job.

I don't know what Lee is thinking unless he is just angry that they did not want to hear the KC bull anymore and that angered him. So he decided to go the other way and believe KC because there is no doubt that he is very angry with her in his first interview with Yuri and his first visits with KC.

KC knows this and she tried to bs him by saying I don't want to cry and he goes 'no I don't either, so let me ask you some questions". He is disgusted. So something changed him also.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by LambChop

Imagine how Mr. Kronk feels....

I know. You are right.

[A_News_Junkie]

Originally Posted by The World According

Attachment 10477
Well, that is humbling if I am shutting down discussions.
I reviewed my posts to see if I am being overly unfair to Cindy or something misguided. I do mention Cindy in some of my posts, as well as Baez, George, Jenny, Dom, local lawyers opinions, using often their direct quotes and finding the hearings and videos that go along with the topic. I try hard to always write MOO ( my opinion only), imo, or in my humble opinion...something to alarm if I am not quoting, but rather opining. I have received e mails from lots of folks asking me to help them find this or that and I do drop everything and try to help. I am not one of the engineers or scientists or medical examiners or lawyers, so I try to do my part in the small ways I can. The only thing I can think of is if anyone finds my posts troublesome, or boring, or somehow not helpful just please put me on ignore. It is the coolest feature, rather like putting on ear plugs when my husband watches football, so I continue what I am doing. Twelve dollar little earplugs and headphones saved my marriage.
All is well, we are all on the same team, we all want justice for Caylee. We are all friends here, earplugs, headphones or ignore, I still give him a smile when I pass the popcorn.

IMHO you are doing the inverse! You stimulate conversation, IMHO. You help and always know where a video in my head is and you are the link queen!
PLEASE DON'T CHANGE A THING.
I think it is fine for one to just whisper to themselves, I respectfully disagree and keep on scrolling.
Just wanted you to know, I look for your posts! I will even take a potty break first because I know you will stimulate me and I will be off with the thought that came from your post! There are several here that do that to me. You are one of them, so IMHO - don't change!

[Solace]

Just wanted you all to know how much this Board is appreciated. There is so much information on this case. And this Board has it. You have all done an incredible job. So thank you much.

Solace

[seeing_eye]

Originally Posted by aksleuth

Steely Dan and Galina, yes, I believe there are people with excellent psychic ability. As I've said, I've had quite a number of my own psychic experiences, I know others who've had them. In all our experiences, I've found they are much stronger and best when they are spontaneous, not asked for, so I have a lot of problems with those who say they are "psychic" on demand. I don't fault desperate families for asking psychics to help. What I distrust are those who make a commercial of their "expertise", those who do it for a living, and those who are downright charlatans and not psychics at all, but only out for fame and wealth.

For the record, I don't believe any scientific test is reliable to check a person's ability because as I said, the best psychic achievements are the spontaneous, non-forced ones.

All people have psychic ability, not everyone uses theirs, but we all have it.

Just for the record, I and many others, after seeing those woods behind the Anthony house, did think it was a perfect place to hide a body. The second I saw an aerial view of the neighborhood, I said, "Woe, somebody needs to search there". As did many others. Call it instinct, psychic gift, gut feeling, we all have it.

ITA with you. I, myself, have had several psychic experiences, therefore, I don't "believe" psychic phenomena exists - I "KNOW" it exist. Since all of it was spontaneous and not under a strict scientific study it can't be proven to others. But most of my experiences were in very great detail and the phenomenon's existence was definitely proven to me.

That said, I totally distrust and disbelieve all so-called professional psychics, readers, mediums (although I LOVE the TV show Medium), fortune tellers, tarot readers, tea leave readers, head bump readers, palm readers, and all others of such ilk. IMO, they are all frauds. I do not believe psychic phenomena can be conjured up at will. I don't understand what it is, but I do know our "conscious selves" are not in control of it.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by faefrost

Dom was in the woods looking for paver's and black plastic garbage bags. Sorry but that was in no way a "psychic tip". someone in there had direct knowledge of exactly what had happened to that child and where they were placed.

And I agree if he had actually found anything he would have run and sold it to the enquirer or similar, regardless of what his instructions were from CA or JB. Why do you think he had the video camera there? he planned on selling the video of the find.

Supposedly DC didn't want it videotaped.

Link

...“As I turned around, Hoover was standing there with a video camera,” Dominic said. “Dominic said, What are you doing here?’ Hoover said, ‘I thought you might want help.’ Dominic said, James, that’s completely inappropriate’.”

Dominic took photos of the area and said he’s turned over his photos to the Anthony’s attorney, to give to prosecutors.



Hoover no says that the tape does not exist, and that he has taped over it.

According to Leonard Padilla, James Hoover told him he knew way Caylee’s body was.

All of that is very interesting in light of the new emails. A lot of people thought LP was a lunatic but a lot of his comments are proving true. Now let's see if the daisy chain from Kronk exists.

Originally Posted by Solace

I gotta say. I disagree - I don't think this sleazy detective and that is what he is would ever put himself in harm's way and move the evidence. He might look for it, but he did not even look that thoroughly if you watch the video. He hesitates constantly on the tape. Or certainly does not act like he knows what he is doing.

I can't see him taking a chance like that when he knows the world is watching this little girl's case. He is not going to put himself out like that. What is in it for him? Nothing except maybe some notariety if he finds the remains later, but nothing that could weigh the cost of tampering with evidence OR being implicated himself.

BBM

If the stories about him and CA are true then that might be why. Men will do some crazy things for the women they love. JMO

[whiteangora]

Originally Posted by A_News_Junkie

IMHO you are doing the inverse! You stimulate conversation, IMHO. You help and always know where a video in my head is and you are the link queen!
PLEASE DON'T CHANGE A THING.
I think it is fine for one to just whisper to themselves, I respectfully disagree and keep on scrolling.
Just wanted you to know, I look for your posts! I will even take a potty break first because I know you will stimulate me and I will be off with the thought that came from your post! There are several here that do that to me. You are one of them, so IMHO - don't change!

I don't think I'm alone in saying that I always look for twa's posts and enjoy reading each and every one. Some people just seem to have a gift for writing that brings their words to life and she definitely has that gift.

[ynotdivein]

Originally Posted by LiveLaughLuv

I don't understand why LE looked the other way as CA was obstructing justice...was it sympathy, empathy or just not wanting to rock the publics image of LE with going after the entire family...surely, LE had their hands full...JMHO


Justice for Caylee

I have always considered that it had something to do with what Yuri said to GA during the 7/24 depo (where he also talked to GA about CA essentially obstructing LE, and which interview ended with GA exiting to throw up)--this is a paraphrase, but he and Allen were pointing out to GA that while LE were doing all they could to solve the case, CA was going on tangents in all the media and getting caught up in that. It was a gentle but pointed statement that, we are after the truth, George, and she is chasing the media in order to manipulate the story... IMO they were giving GA a chance to put his foot down and stage a marital coup to stop the madness.

When it became apparent that GA either couldn't or wouldn't do so, well... then LE simply continued its (IMO very wise) tactic of media silence. Though I could imagine that some of them may have idly started trying to calculate the lengths of rope they have paid out to Team Anthony as it swashbuckles its way through the media, the courts, etc....

[pip]

Originally Posted by Intermezzo

A brief look at the timeline for November 2008


Nov 12: Anthony's "fire" spokesperson, Larry Garrison
Nov 15: The A's were at the Kidfinders Meet and Greet
Nov 15 & 16: Dominic Casey(& J Hoover) searches the woods off Suburban and an abandoned home
Nov 17 article: Michelle Bart(new Anthony family spokesperson) said the A's, including Lee, were going to hold a Presser on Monday Nov.18
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-casey-anthony"She said the meeting will include Caylee's grandparents, Cindy and George Anthony; NeJame; the Kid Finders Network; and a private investigator who has been working on the case. Bart said they will discuss tips and findings in recent weeks that have led the Anthonys to think their granddaughter is still alive. Police have said they think the girl is dead.
"Hopefully, by the end of the week the public will understand why we've been searching for Caylee Marie," Bart said. "We truly believe that Caylee Marie is alive."

Nov.19: Exclusive tour of the A home by Local 6 News
Nov. 20: Anthony family Mark NeJame resigns
__________________________________________________ _____

I do not recall and can't find any news story that the Presser on Nov 18 ever happened

This presser never happened. It was hyped up by the A's and Michelle Bart, delayed, delayed, and finally cancelled without explanation. (not by means of an official cancellation..it just faded away) It was on CMA Myspace and Michelle Barts website for some time and finally was removed.
NOV 15th-20th was a very busy week.. many significant shifts occurred in the A camp.

[RR0004]

Personally, I think him coming up with the first map in October was more interesting.

[Zoe Bogart]

Originally Posted by Sun
Pages 812 & 813 (21333 & 21334) http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24527395/detail.html

(sorry, I don't know how to do a screenshot and put it here) Date on the email was Nov 15

Here's the map with the pushpins (with red dots on them, which I added). There are three pushpins. One marks the abandoned house (on another street on the other side of Suburban), one marks the location where DC said the remains were just off Suburban, and the third marks the location of the Anthony home on Hopespring.

Click on map, click again for the largest view, then save it to your computer so you can open with your photo program so you can make a larger view.



I deleted my first post because of typo in title I couldn't correct.

[Zoe Bogart]

Originally Posted by RR0004

Personally, I think him coming up with the first map in October was more interesting.

I haven't seen a map from October. Any idea where I can find it? The only map I see from October is one of Johnson's Wrecker. Scrolling through the documents looking for maps is playing havoc with my motion sickness, so I have to stop now.

[sleutherontheside]

Just a heads up that the latitude and longitude coordinates on the bottom of the map.....show up as a location elsewhere. I got some weird messages when I typed them in.

[Zoe Bogart]

Originally Posted by sleutherontheside

Just a heads up that the latitude and longitude coordinates on the bottom of the map.....show up as a location elsewhere. I got some weird messages when I typed them in.

Oy, I should have mentioned that when I posted the map. Sorry. Too late to edit my post now. Thanks!

[LambChop]

I think what we all have learned from DC's emails is that there was no real defense evidence to prove that someone else was responsible. We all look through the documents which have been released in discovery and reach a saturation point when we know KC is responsible, we just don't know why. But some of us are seeing a pattern between mother and daughter that is not healthy (love vs. hate). CA to this day still is trying to control her daughter. In a time when KC should have been breaking away from the family unit she was tied to it without a possibility of escape. KC did what she felt she had to do to reactify the situation and then went out to go on with her life. At the time it made perfect sense to her and just looking at those Blockbuster tapes shows she had no remorse. It really is very simple. The child was in the way. jmo

[Zoe Bogart]

Was Dominic Casey a general contractor before he decided to become a gumshoe? I ask because I know his middle initial is A, and nearly fell off my chair when I found a contracting license (expired 1999) for a guy with the same name with middle name ANTHONY. Like fate, if you know what I mean. Bad fate.

Another hold-on-to-my-hat moment was when I read Jose Baez was in Naval Intelligence. I'll refrain from cracks about the state of our Navy.

I was reading along, all sorts of familiar names popping up, when I realized they were discussing Haleigh's case! Then there's stuff about Willamette Weekly and decided I truly need a break. Too many familiar cases wrapped into one.

Does DC not know the laws of his own state? I would think if one were going to open a business, the best thing would be to become familiar with the state's laws. How many sheets of paper does this guy waste to send a three-line e-mail because of his "confidential" notations on the bottom? I don't live in Florida, but I do a lot of official business with government agencies in the state, and each agency warns if business is conducted by e-mail, my e-mail address can be made public (and obviously, if the state sues me on criminal charges, so can my entire e-mail correspondence, plus other records they have on me). They advise doing business by snail mail, fax, and telephone. If I know that, living several states away, shouldn't Dominic Casey, Jose Baez, and anyone else doing business in Florida?

It's not nice to call people stupid but the lack of intelligence in this case boggles the mind. Appalling.

My advice to George is: Get a job, get an apartment, or best of all, get out of dodge. They're gunning for you.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Supposedly DC didn't want it videotaped.

Link

...“As I turned around, Hoover was standing there with a video camera,” Dominic said. “Dominic said, What are you doing here?’ Hoover said, ‘I thought you might want help.’ Dominic said, James, that’s completely inappropriate’.”

Dominic took photos of the area and said he’s turned over his photos to the Anthony’s attorney, to give to prosecutors.



Hoover no says that the tape does not exist, and that he has taped over it.

According to Leonard Padilla, James Hoover told him he knew way Caylee’s body was.

All of that is very interesting in light of the new emails. A lot of people thought LP was a lunatic but a lot of his comments are proving true. Now let's see if the daisy chain from Kronk exists.



BBM

If the stories about him and CA are true then that might be why. Men will do some crazy things for the women they love. JMO

This is true, but this case is too high profile. I just can't see it and I also believe he knew he was being filmed. Why would he continue being filmed if he did not want it. There would not be that much tape. he continued on.

[logicalgirl]

Originally Posted by Solace

This is true, but this case is too high profile. I just can't see it and I also believe he knew he was being filmed. Why would he continue being filmed if he did not want it. There would not be that much tape. he continued on.

I gotta agree with your comments here Solace. I spent a moment or two trying to picture Jim Hoover as a sort of expert camera man who was sneaking around using a long range lens like a high end paparazzi - but no, that wasn't working for me.

Hoover doesn't appear to be filled with grace and the ability to move like a cat in the woods - more like he was no more than a bumbling five or eight feet away from DC at all times. If they had found little Caylee, I'm sure that tape would have belonged to DC and sold to the highest bidder, but since he didn't find anything - I don't think he wanted anyone to know he was even sneaking around in those woods.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Supposedly DC didn't want it videotaped.

Link

...“As I turned around, Hoover was standing there with a video camera,” Dominic said. “Dominic said, What are you doing here?’ Hoover said, ‘I thought you might want help.’ Dominic said, James, that’s completely inappropriate’.”

Dominic took photos of the area and said he’s turned over his photos to the Anthony’s attorney, to give to prosecutors.



Hoover no says that the tape does not exist, and that he has taped over it.

According to Leonard Padilla, James Hoover told him he knew way Caylee’s body was.

All of that is very interesting in light of the new emails. A lot of people thought LP was a lunatic but a lot of his comments are proving true. Now let's see if the daisy chain from Kronk exists.



BBM

If the stories about him and CA are true then that might be why. Men will do some crazy things for the women they love. JMO

This is true, but this case is too high profile. I just can't see it and I also believe he knew he was being filmed. Why would he continue being filmed if he did not want it. There would not be that much tape. he continued on.

[whiteangora]

Originally Posted by Solace

This is true, but this case is too high profile. I just can't see it and I also believe he knew he was being filmed. Why would he continue being filmed if he did not want it. There would not be that much tape. he continued on.

I would also like to add that I would believe J Hoover any day over Dominic or any of the Anthonys. I'll admit that Hoover did a lot of underhanded things but he just comes across as not being as conniving or sneaky as DC. I don't recall him fighting tooth and nail to get out of any depositions, he seemed fairly straight forward with J Morgan. jmo

[RaineInMD]

Originally Posted by Solace

This is true, but this case is too high profile. I just can't see it and I also believe he knew he was being filmed. Why would he continue being filmed if he did not want it. There would not be that much tape. he continued on.

I think its possible that DC was relayed the location of caylee and was told to go find her. I think Cindy wanted her brought home. The only way he could do this without making Casey look guilty for divulging the location would be to concoct a senario that the psychic guided him to the location. I think the taping was all part of the plan so when police saw the video it indeed looked like he was being instructed by the psychic. Even the phone records would show this. When DC could not find the body I believe they all just thought it was just another lie from Casey.

[The World According]

Originally Posted by RaineInMD

I think its possible that DC was relayed the location of caylee and was told to go find her. I think Cindy wanted her brought home. The only way he could do this without making Casey look guilty for divulging the location would be to concoct a senario that the psychic guided him to the location. I think the taping was all part of the plan so when police saw the video it indeed looked like he was being instructed by the psychic. Even the phone records would show this. When DC could not find the body I believe they all just thought it was just another lie from Casey.

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Welcome to posting. We are glad to welcome all of the members to opine!!

[The World According]

Originally Posted by Solace

This is true, but this case is too high profile. I just can't see it and I also believe he knew he was being filmed. Why would he continue being filmed if he did not want it. There would not be that much tape. he continued on.

There is no question that he knew he was being filmed, he speaks to Hoover on the tape , and they are in very close to one another when he points and says "It would be right here". If he were shocked at being taped, would he have severed the relationship, or invited him back the next day? Good grief!!!

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[Solace]

Originally Posted by RaineInMD

I think its possible that DC was relayed the location of caylee and was told to go find her. I think Cindy wanted her brought home. The only way he could do this without making Casey look guilty for divulging the location would be to concoct a senario that the psychic guided him to the location. I think the taping was all part of the plan so when police saw the video it indeed looked like he was being instructed by the psychic. Even the phone records would show this. When DC could not find the body I believe they all just thought it was just another lie from Casey.

Who told him where the body was?

Just my opinion, but I don't believe for a second that KC is going to admit anything. She is a sociopath through and through and as long as they did not see me do it, they cannot say I did - (this is her thinking). So who told them where the body is.

Lets remember that this is very near the home - if DC is worth his salt, he should know that victims are placed very near the home when a family member kills. Even if he gets told by a psychic go look near the school where the woods are. So she got the pavers right. That is not a big deal to me. If she had been doing this for some time, she would know all of this (I know that I have seen pavers in the woods during my lifetime) - it is not that big a deal. He says the psychic told him to look near the woods, water and there will be pavers.

I just believe that KC is not admitting anything to anyone and she is the one who knows where the body was buried.