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Old 08-29-2010, 02:21 PM
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:55 PM
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Just need to further clarify things.

There is still a lot of confusion about sleuthing Ivan Ramirez because at one point there appeared to be an Ivan Ramirez and an Ivan Rodriquez. I posted that it was OK to sleuth Ivan Rodriquez but not Ivan Ramirez.

Now it turns out there is no Ivan Rodriquez. There is only an Ivan Ramirez.

It is OK to sleuth Ivan Ramirez and use his full name because he has posted on his FB that he is going to need a lawyer.

He might be the Ivan Ramirez mentioned by "Emily" in the comments following NG's blog, but we just don't know.

I went back to the previous thread and made edits, undeleted posts, etc. to reflect all this so that there is no more confusion. hth

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Okay thanks, I am terrified to post, I have found something on Alicias siters FB that I found interesting and now I am so confused I do not know what to do. #1 can I link her FB? #2 can I link the post that I am referring to? TIA
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:20 PM
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One other person was arrested on Thursday. Ivan Ramirez, one of the suspects who allegedly wielded a baseball bat, was picked up at a soccer game at Cavanaugh Field. Ivan Ramirez is not related to Anthony Ramirez and was on the other side of the altercation, Smith said. Ivan Ramirez was booked on a charge of aggravated battery. His bond was set at $20,000.
http://www.gbtribune.com/news.php?id=2038

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Okay thanks, I am terrified to post, I have found something on Alicias siters FB that I found interesting and now I am so confused I do not know what to do. #1 can I link her FB? #2 can I link the post that I am referring to? TIA
I think everyone is.

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Old 08-29-2010, 03:36 PM
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Dawn DeBolt We miss u my sweet baby sis! I cannt begin to express the nausatating feeling we all have for what these men did to u. U will see tonight all the people who love u. Life will never be the same w/ ur laugh, ur smile, or those beautiful baby blues. U were so beautiful in and out. World was beTter place w/ u on it. Miss u and love u always.

This comment on Alicia's sis-in-laws FB makes one think that there are more Men involved with this Murder.

LINK http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...8458809&v=wall
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No! No! Don't be afraid to post! Please!

We do have to stay away from posting things from Alicia's sister's FB if the sister is a minor.

Again, I apologize for the confusion about the whole IR thing.

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Okay thanks, I am terrified to post, I have found something on Alicias siters FB that I found interesting and now I am so confused I do not know what to do. #1 can I link her FB? #2 can I link the post that I am referring to? TIA
You can do both if the sister is not a minor.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:16 PM
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Bringing my question for the "locals" over:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased KS - Alicia DeBolt - 14 - Great Bend - August 21, 2010




Also bringing over relevant posts or info:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...&v=wall&ref=ts

http://www.kwch.com/news/kwch-news-r...,1929688.story
Police have questioned a 19-year-old, but aren't saying if that's the same person who picked Alicia up from her home Saturday night. He says he was not with her Saturday - and hadn't seen her since the previous Wednesday.

Here's your article you were looking for Kat. TM or IR????

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Great-...48480?v=stream

http://www.gbtribune.com/news.php?id=2038

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2010...alicia-debolt/
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Alicia's sister is not a minor. Can I post a link to her FB?
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:25 PM
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I'm posting this link. It's a MS page and shows Alicia did have a relationship with him. He's 19. Mod, if this is inappropriate, plz let me know.

http://www.myspace.com/badluck16

ETA: It is amazing how much his sister looks like Alicia.
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Alicia's sister's FB

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I'm posting this link. It's a MS page and shows Alicia did have a relationship with him. He's 19. Mod, if this is inappropriate, plz let me know.

http://www.myspace.com/badluck16

ETA: It is amazing how much his sister looks like Alicia.
Whose MS page does this belong to?
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Whose MS page does this belong to?
A friend or boyfriend of AD's. I won't mention his name...not sure we can. But, the posts by AD show she did have a relationship with him and he is 19.
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A friend or boyfriend of AD's. I won't mention his name...not sure we can. But, the posts by AD show she did have a relationship with him and he is 19.
Does it belong to Ivan Ramirez or someone else? I am just trying to figure out who this belongs to.
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Just to let you know I think this FB is Alicias SISTER IN LAW , DAWN and she has used Alicia's Pic as her profile pic. Alicia's sister is Holly but now I am mixed up!

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Does it belong to Ivan Ramirez or someone else? I am just trying to figure out who this belongs to.
Not IR, this guy is Caucasian. I found it while sleuthing the victim. Initials are TM.
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Just to let you know the FB is Alicias SISTER IN LAW and she has used Alicia's Pic as her profile pic. Alicia's sister is Holly.
It's confusing cathdawg, because of the marriage. I truly think her sister is Dawn and Dawn's partner is Holly. It's on the FB. Look under INFO Sleuthing the parents, AD has older sister, Dawn, 28 and brother who is 24. Brother is new father and engaged.

ETA: I think the mother was just recently married to Conrad. I found most info by the name Debolt.

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It's confusing, cathdawg because of the marriage. I truly think her sister is Dawn and Dawn's partner is Holly. It's on the FB. Look under INFO Sleuthing the parents, AD has older sister, Dawn, 28 and brother who is 24. Brother is new father and engaged.


ok. Now I'm really confused!!!

it's ok, tho, I'll figure it out.
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Just noticed this.....look at her age per her MS page. 16?

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LOL, it is confusing, when I saw on Dawn's info on FB she has broken up with Husband and is now with Holly Debolt. so...I suppose Holly took Dawn's Last Name.

This comment on Dawn's FB confirmed that this is the case.

Dawn DeBolt via Great Bend Tribune: To all of you out there that is talking about my mother in law just
need to stop, please!! She knows she did wrong and this is not the time
to point fingers. Alicia is a normal kid who makes bad judgments at
times, but to error is human. She wasn't going to a huge party, it was a
small get together that she considers a... party. She told her mom who she
was going with and what time she was going to be back. We just got back
from shopping all day and she was a little tired. Her curfew is at mid
night and she planned to be back by then. Alicia is really good about
calling and telling her mom that she may be a few minutes late. So
please if you don't have nothing nice to say please don't say anything
at all. We are going through enough right now and are trying to stay a
positive as possible. Just keep her in your prayers. Thank you, Holly
DeBolt sister-in-lawP.S. We love you Alicia and your nieces really want their auntie Alicia home safe.

HOWEVER BELOW HOLLY STATES SHE USED DAWN'S FB TO COMMENT.


LINK: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...v=wall&ref=sgm

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I think I have it right now!

Dawn is sister of Alicia's

Holly is now Dawn's partner

Dawn has used Alicia's Pic as her Profile Pic.
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Just noticed this.....look at her age per her MS page. 16?

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LOL, it is confusing, when I saw on Dawn's info on FB she has broken up with Husband and is now with Holly Debolt. so...I suppose Holly took Dawn's Last Name.

This comment on Dawn's FB confirmed that this is the case.

Dawn DeBolt via Great Bend Tribune: To all of you out there that is talking about my mother in law just
need to stop, please!! She knows she did wrong and this is not the time
to point fingers. Alicia is a normal kid who makes bad judgments at
times, but to error is human. She wasn't going to a huge party, it was a
small get together that she considers a... party. She told her mom who she
was going with and what time she was going to be back. We just got back
from shopping all day and she was a little tired. Her curfew is at mid
night and she planned to be back by then. Alicia is really good about
calling and telling her mom that she may be a few minutes late. So
please if you don't have nothing nice to say please don't say anything
at all. We are going through enough right now and are trying to stay a
positive as possible. Just keep her in your prayers. Thank you, Holly
DeBolt sister-in-lawP.S. We love you Alicia and your nieces really want their auntie Alicia home safe.

HOWEVER BELOW HOLLY STATES SHE USED DAWN'S FB TO COMMENT.
I remember that. Maybe it's all BS, IDK???? PS...I'd add link to that...just sayin... Here is her brother's site:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...6047277&v=wall
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