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Old 09-21-2010, 02:15 PM
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IN - Police: Ind. kids died after 10 hours in closet

By RICK CALLAHAN

INDIANAPOLIS - Police say the mother of two children found dead in an Indianapolis apartment told them she found them dead more than 10 hours after she locked them and three siblings inside a closet so she could visit a neighbor.

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The report says Farah placed a bed in front of the closet door so her children couldn't get out and found two of them dead about 10 1/2 hours later.

She was charged Monday with two preliminary counts of neglect of a dependent in the deaths of her 5-year-old daughter and 3-year-old son.

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Ummm...something isnt ringing quite true here unless the closet was so well sealed they ran out of air...
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:25 PM
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OK-just read the link. How completely and utterly terrified those children must have been. How hungry, and tired and thirsty. The survivors...I cant even think about them. Not without going crazy.

What do you suppose her drug of choice is?? Just guessin that this might have been a motivator...
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:29 PM
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She was "visiting a neighbor" for TEN hours?

Is "neighbor" some sort of new slang for a drug supplier?
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:38 PM
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What was she thinking? I have to agree I bet drugs played a part in it. Those poor children must have been terrified. Rip in little ones

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Police said the siblings appeared malnourished and neighbors said they had noticed that the children appeared unusually thin.

An autopsy performed Monday did not show how the boy and girl died. Coroner's office manager Marchele Hall said Tuesday that toxicology results that could reveal that would take three to four weeks.


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Old 09-21-2010, 02:47 PM
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Ummm...something isnt ringing quite true here unless the closet was so well sealed they ran out of air...
Could they run out of air if they were sharing it? The article stated that she locked 5 children in the closet, 2 of them whom died. How terriable. So totally not true about "visiting" a neighbor for 10 hours unless love or drugs, or heck maybe both..the love of drugs was involved.

I pray for healing for the remaining 3 children and RIP the little ones that didn't make it out of the closet alive. So very tragic!
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:48 PM
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Something about her face....FAS? Something tells me that she's not the first generation to massively eff up parenting in her family.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:58 PM
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maybe those little ones got too much benadryl or whatever to help them sleep.

Poor babies!
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IN - Mother starves children, locks them in closet, 2 die

I did not see any other threads about this gruesome story in Indianapolis. Mother runs off to party, locking her 5 children in an 18-inch-deep, 6-foot-long closet for (she claims...I doubt it) 10 hours. When she returns, two are dead, possibly from asphyxiation. All of them were malnourished. A surviving sibling says she's done this before.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/25101122/detail.html

I can't even begin to find the words. Certainly nothing appropriate for this forum. The siblings watching their little brother and sister die, and being absolutely unable to do a thing about it. My heart is ripped in two for them.
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It said there were 5 kids in a closet that was 6 feet wide and 18 inches deep. Is it possible that they suffocated? I guess it depends on how tightly the door closed.
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OK-this is like a regular closet-so there must have been a space under the door even with carpeting, unless there was a draft blocker or something else she put into the space.

I cant think about this anymore. It is completely unfair that these babies had this kind of a start in life. I am starting to believe in capital punishment for crimes against children that result in maiming or death. And I am not typically a capital punishment kind of woman....
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She's been charged only with "neglect of a dependent" ??

Something's not right here! There are two dead children!
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Were the children so afraid that they kicked and screamed and hurt each other plus using to much oxygen up???
It would be like buried alive...........5 kids in a space 6' by 18 in. on the floor!
What else was in the closet clothes? boxes?
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These are preliminary charges-there will be more coming when the tox comes back I bet.
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What was she thinking? I have to agree I bet drugs played a part in it. Those poor children must have been terrified. Rip in little ones





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Bet she didn't look that "sad" while she was partying, or whatever she was doing for 10 1/2 hours....
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positional asphyxiation. ETA: They were on the bottom of the pile at some point. OMG

According to this article:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/25101122/detail.html

Survivors said she had done it before AND the little ones were in full rigor when recovered by police.

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this is murder even without the tox results

she knew or should've known that those children could die IMO
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Awful. Just nightmarishly awful.
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"Farah, an immigrant from Somalia, found her 5-year-old daughter, Zuhur, and 3-year-old son, Zakariya, "stiff and unresponsive" when she returned home about 10 1/2 hours later and opened the closet, the report said. She told officers she then carried them downstairs, but did not call 911 or try to revive them, according to the report.
Lt. said the three surviving children — a 7-year-old girl and boys ages 5 and 1 — are now in foster care"

7, twin 5 year olds, a 3 year old and a one year old. Anyone else think there is going to PPS defense happening here?

Her husband went to Somalia to visit his family, but is on his way back. It was the friend she visited who set in motion the chain of events leading to the discovery of the bodies and the other children. Good for her.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100922/...s_indianapolis

For those of you confused at the charges, the DA's office is asking for 72 hours to prepare other ones...
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The fact that these children didn't have to die, tells me that 'neglect of a dependent' is a hogwash charge. This is out and out murder!

May these babies TWA! I hope the children that survived get counseling and support for being the ones that survived. If it is determined these children were killed by being stepped on or smothered I can't imagine how they could live with that when they are older. It is just too hard to think about this case and these poor babies.
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Something about her face....FAS? Something tells me that she's not the first generation to massively eff up parenting in her family.
Well she's only been in this country for ten years. I doubt her mother was an alcoholic.

Wounded, scarred and out her mind most definately. She probably had to go through the camps. Somalia and their civil war would have a massive effect on people that lived through that.

No, no, nooooooooooo way am I excusing her. Not at all as there are many refugees that come to this country and prosper and care for their children. However, she has the three whites. The upside down eyes. Guaranteed she's out there. I don't smell a PPS defense. More a PTSD defense.

Reading this made me not be able to breathe. What a horrible, inhumane, torturous way to die. The surviving kids being locked in the closet with their deceased siblings? How do you ever overcome that?

Here's a question. People know she has five kids. They know her husband went back home. Where did she say these kids were?

No doubt she was PO'd the hubby went home and left her with five kids under the age of what? Seven?
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I jumped to conclusions on the drugs...it may ultimately lead there but I had no right. I agree with Filly that the background of Somalia may impact this case-but right or wrong is pretty clear here. Unless she thought she was hiding them from rebels...which I doubt. She went next door and hung out for a really long time. I am certain the friend was plugged in to her mood-I am even more certain there was a reason the friend followed up on what happened after Farah left...
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I feel like I got punched in the stomach after reading this awful story!

Those poor, poor souls. The deceased babies AND their siblings. How in Gods name will they EVER recover from being locked in that tiny closet with their dead brother and sister.

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I also doubt FAS given the history we've been told. However, I was trained to look for dysmorphia and it's hard to miss with this mom's mug shot. I don't know if she suffered from malnutrition or some sort of substance exposure but she certainly has all the markers. How I wish the reproductive organs failed when there was this level of disability.

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