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View Poll Results: Which RDI claim is easiest to prove?
PR/JR handled the weapons or sexually assaulted. 3 4.05%
PR/JR wrote the ransom note or helped to write it. 50 67.57%
PR/JR were motivated to hide prior abuse or rage. 6 8.11%
PR/JR used words or actions that prove their guilt. 15 20.27%
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:39 PM
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[b]The subject of the baseball bat has been brought up...there being two baseball bats found outside. One on the South side and one on the North side.

My question is, does anyone know which bat had a hair on it?
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Apparently this item originates from U.S. District Judge Julie E. Carnes evidence list?
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Police also found a baseball bat not owned by the Ramseys on the north side of the house with fibers on it consistent with fibers found in the carpet in the basement where JonBenet’s body was found.
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A metal baseball bat found outside the Ramseys' Boulder home. Fibers on the bat matched a carpet found in the basement near the storage room, where JonBenet's body was found. The bat was found, "in a place where kids normally wouldn't play," Smit said, declining to elaborate.

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There was no hair on the aluminum bat found outside. It was fibers from the carpet in the basement. Incidentally, there were TWO aluminum bats found outside.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:35 AM
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Sadly, llama, I don't think our friend understands that "smoking gun" cases make up the vast minority of cases. The problem here is that no one knew how to put a circumstantial case together.
You were spot on with this post back when, SD! When this thread came up fresh today, and I looked through the voting options, I couldn't make a choice, since the only answer for me would be an added: All of the above.

The only way this case can go forward to a trial at this point, and have any hope of bringing a resolve and some justice for JB is to use a Felony Murder charge against JR.

Then, there would have to be someone with enough hutzpah , combined with skill and the Lord's blessings to build a prosecution based on available forensice evidence supported fully by a volume of circumstantial evidence.
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Old 04-05-2013, 03:19 PM
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You were spot on with this post back when, SD! When this thread came up fresh today, and I looked through the voting options, I couldn't make a choice, since the only answer for me would be an added: All of the above.

The only way this case can go forward to a trial at this point, and have any hope of bringing a resolve and some justice for JB is to use a Felony Murder charge against JR.

Then, there would have to be someone with enough hutzpah , combined with skill and the Lord's blessings to build a prosecution based on available forensice evidence supported fully by a volume of circumstantial evidence.
midwest mama,
This case would make or break any DA's career. Given that their profession is a stepping stone to politics and being allocated some safe seat, who would have the courage to defy the Colorado Mafia?

Also this would be the trial of the century, MJ and OJ would have to make way for JR. The media would love it, it would run and run for months after it was all done.

BR in the dock being asked Do remember telling LHP to go away and close the door, as you lay in bed under the covers with JonBenet?


Or JR, Why did you not want JonBenet doing pageants in Vegas?

Nearly everyone would get their questions answered, the sealed evidence would be placed on the table, possibly excepting who actually sexually assaulted JonBenet that night.


Sadly politics will decide if JR is ever charged, but you never know, some DA might just decide I'll be famous if I prosecute JR, and can ignore any prior inducements.


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Old 04-05-2013, 05:20 PM
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midwest mama,
This case would make or break any DA's career. Given that their profession is a stepping stone to politics and being allocated some safe seat, who would have the courage to defy the Colorado Mafia?

Also this would be the trial of the century, MJ and OJ would have to make way for JR. The media would love it, it would run and run for months after it was all done.

BR in the dock being asked Do remember telling LHP to go away and close the door, as you lay in bed under the covers with JonBenet?


Or JR, Why did you not want JonBenet doing pageants in Vegas?

Nearly everyone would get their questions answered, the sealed evidence would be placed on the table, possibly excepting who actually sexually assaulted JonBenet that night.


Sadly politics will decide if JR is ever charged, but you never know, some DA might just decide I'll be famous if I prosecute JR, and can ignore any prior inducements.

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So true. Politics.....always politics. Let's hope the current DA has the stones, and the heart, to do what should have been done 16 years ago!
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We all have the hope that someday someone with lots of guts will decide to review this case, and bring charges. One thing that gives me hope is that they would start digging into the items that AH refused to send to the lab for testing. I think it was in ST's book about AH protecting the R's, and his denial to look into things that made the R's look guilty.
If this would ever happen, can't you just see us all glued to the TV, and then on to this blog? Maybe Super Dave will be JB's hero, and that when his book comes out it may be the incentive for the people who need to take a second look at this tragedy.

We can only pray for justice, and hope that our prayers are answered.

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Old 04-06-2013, 04:43 PM
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So true. Politics.....always politics. Let's hope the current DA has the stones, and the heart, to do what should have been done 16 years ago!
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Sometimes when you turn up for the informal DA interview you are told what cases are off limits and what the intended scope of of your legal remit is to be, i.e. the little people.


In Oliver Stone's JFK he offered a perspective from a DA who had stones. Some say this was a romantic tale for the masses.


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You were spot on with this post back when, SD! When this thread came up fresh today, and I looked through the voting options, I couldn't make a choice, since the only answer for me would be an added: All of the above.
Yep. There is not one single piece of evidence I'd bank the case on; it's the combination of everything involved.

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The only way this case can go forward to a trial at this point, and have any hope of bringing a resolve and some justice for JB is to use a Felony Murder charge against JR.
A slight hope, midwestmama. He could just put all the blame on Patsy, if he had nowhere else to go. It's not like she can defend herself.

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Then, there would have to be someone with enough hutzpah , combined with skill and the Lord's blessings to build a prosecution based on available forensice evidence supported fully by a volume of circumstantial evidence.
And the clods in the DA's office just didn't have any of that. God forbid an elected official getting rich on taxpayer money should have to do any WORK, right?!
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