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I hadn't realized that EB has previous criminal convictions on her record.
http://www.thestate.com/2010/10/13/1...irl-now-a.html
Court records show Elisa Baker has been charged with some two dozen criminal offenses since the early 1990s, most of them cases of worthless checks.
She has been convicted of passing worthless checks seven times, at stores such as Walmart, Lowe’s and a shoe store. She’s also been charged with about a dozen other worthless check offenses, including seven times at Food Lion and Bottom Dollar in 2009. |
God! What a prize. The Australian family must have been just thrilled about their new daughter-in law. 
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What's really strange to me is the hold she seemingly had on AB. He paid for her trip to Australia, promptly married her, and followed her (with Zahra in tow) back to NC. Looking at her, I just have to shake my head...
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It brings to mind the saying "love is blind"........or he desperately wanted to come to the U.S. I still can't imagine uprooting a child who has had two bouts with cancer, and needs medical care, to an unknown country. MOO
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Not to be o/t, however it's interesting there isn't any red flag that alerts banks when someone is opening a checking account that there is such a previous history of check fraud. Thankfully many businesses now have an automatic check verification before the customer leaves. MOO
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When I changed banks two years ago and opened a checking account, they did a complete credit check on me. I know that apartment managers in this area also do this routinely. They won't rent to anyone with bad credit or other negatives, such as criminal convictions. Of course, now with the depressed economy, standards might be a bit looser.
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When I changed banks two years ago and opened a checking account, they did a complete credit check on me. I know that apartment managers in this area also do this routinely. They won't rent to anyone with bad credit or other negatives, such as criminal convictions. Of course, now with the depressed economy, standards might be a bit looser.
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Or perhaps the accounts were openened under Adam's name??
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The couple married there, Elisa Baker’s sisters said. When Elisa Baker returned to North Carolina last December, she had Adam and his daughter Zahra in tow. The family moved into Elisa Baker’s father’s house.
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Heckuva plan... 
I vaguely remember this...were they living WITH her father, or is he deceased?
O..wait, them living with him and not paying their share of the bills was one of the sources of conflict I think?
Was this (living with her father, can't remember his name) in the timeline?
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10-17-2010, 01:50 PM
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Wonder where the couple that was everywhere on the media the first couple of days are? He is the one that said he found the "goo glove" and was out at the chipper search. lol...ok I'm wondering if LE told them to ZIP IT.
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Heckuva plan...
I vaguely remember this...were they living WITH her father, or is he deceased?
O..wait, them living with him and not paying their share of the bills was one of the sources of conflict I think?
Was this (living with her father, can't remember his name) in the timeline? |
I believe his name is Marshall Fairchild and I read that the family was upset because they felt SM had taken financial advantage of him.
I'll see if I can find that link!
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10-17-2010, 01:53 PM
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Heckuva plan...
I vaguely remember this...were they living WITH her father, or is he deceased?
O..wait, them living with him and not paying their share of the bills was one of the sources of conflict I think?
Was this (living with her father, can't remember his name) in the timeline? |
IIRC they lived with her dad approx. six months.
Which puts it around till may of '09, as they moved to the states Nov. of '08.
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10-17-2010, 01:56 PM
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When I changed banks two years ago and opened a checking account, they did a complete credit check on me. I know that apartment managers in this area also do this routinely. They won't rent to anyone with bad credit or other negatives, such as criminal convictions. Of course, now with the depressed economy, standards might be a bit looser.
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It would be in the banks' best interest to at least check for past fraudulent check activity, imo.
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KB thinks the attic story is bs according to her comment on AY's FB.
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FWIW:
I went back to thread 1 to find the ransom note news as it was breaking. The Charlotte paper was the only one that reported (that I can find) that Coffe had no son, they have since taken that out of the article.
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http://www.thestate.com/2010/10/13/1...irl-now-a.html
Relatives said Elisa and Adam Baker met online about two years ago. He sent Elisa money to fly to Australia and join them.
The couple married there, Elisa Baker’s sisters said. When Elisa Baker returned to North Carolina last December, she had Adam and his daughter Zahra in tow. The family moved into Elisa Baker’s father’s house.
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Thanks for the link! I wasn't finding it anywhere.
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KB thinks the attic story is bs according to her comment on AY's FB.
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If it's anything like my attic which is basically a crawl space filled with insulation and HVAC lines, I have my doubts also. MOO
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Wonder where the couple that was everywhere on the media the first couple of days are? He is the one that said he found the "goo glove" and was out at the chipper search. lol...ok I'm wondering if LE told them to ZIP IT.
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Yea - we've heard nothing more about that glove. I'll bet that is part of what they had to declare this a homicide (if not THE factor). Plus, it was described as "red" - if this had been committed other than "recently" it would have been very dark red, brown or even possibly black.
Lord I hope they find this child soon.
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So do I Panthera.
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It would be in the banks' best interest to at least check for past fraudulent check activity, imo.
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Right, one would think they would not even be able to have an acct. with their history....amazing how some folks get away with uh, stuff.
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Part of me wonders if we have not heard anything else about it is because it did not exist. IIRC it was soon after that that LE wanted all the raw footage...and now nothing else from those 2. I just felt the hink about it at the time. Ex neighbor and saying how bad things were and then just happens to find the glove? eh, could be, but it bugs me.
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Right, one would think they would not even be able to have an acct. with their history....amazing how some folks get away with uh, stuff.
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Or at the very least be limited to using a debit card only and no paper checks.  MOO
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hmmmm....maybe teh is just the cynic today. lol.
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Funny that when you look at the charges all the worthless check charges were in May 2009
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IIRC they lived with her dad approx. six months.
Which puts it around till may of '09, as they moved to the states Nov. of '08.
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So........could all these bad/bounced checks have been written to her dad? Or maybe in conjuction w/ bills they were running up while staying with him?
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hmmmm....maybe teh is just the cynic today. lol.
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Nah, right there with you Teh. 
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So........could all these bad/bounced checks have been written to her dad? Or maybe in conjuction w/ bills they were running up while staying with him?
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NO - not to her dad - most of them were written to Food Lion (which is a grocery chain in NC). but it was right around the time the conflict with her dad came about and he kicked them out.
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NO - not to her dad - most of them were written to Food Lion (which is a grocery chain in NC). but it was right around the time the conflict with her dad came about and he kicked them out.
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Ah, ok THANKS Owl.....I hadn't seen it posted before as to who the checks were written to!
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So........could all these bad/bounced checks have been written to her dad? Or maybe in conjuction w/ bills they were running up while staying with him?
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It's been reported that all but one check was written at grocery stores. I believe the other one was for past rent.
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NO - not to her dad - most of them were written to Food Lion (which is a grocery chain in NC). but it was right around the time the conflict with her dad came about and he kicked them out.
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I'm thinking that Dad gave them an ultimatum in May that they'd better start buying their own groceries and stuff and pulling their own weight or they were out of there. So they did for the month of May, bouncing every check, and then the calls started coming in to Dad's house in June. No surprise they were out of there in July when they moved to that apt with the "attic".
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