NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 - #21 - Page 10

SherlockHomey · #**226** 10-23-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PunKnLuV

Oh us too!! Is there something at the airport? We had 3 low flying LOUD ones in the last 30 minutes fly over.

Had to ride by the house this morning and nothing going on. I wonder what the next lead is or will be? The news is awfully quiet now.

PunKnLuV · #**227** 10-23-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SherlockHomey

Had to ride by the house this morning and nothing going on. I wonder what the next lead is or will be? The news is awfully quiet now.

I did notice a car/SUV parked beside it yesterday afternoon. I didn't get a good look though. It was lunchtime and 127 was congested. Do not think the cops would care if I explained to them I hit the car in front of me b/c I was busy staring at Zahra's house.

SherlockHomey · #**228** 10-23-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PunKnLuV

I did notice a car/SUV parked beside it yesterday afternoon. I didn't get a good look though. It was lunchtime and 127 was congested. Do not think the cops would care if I explained to them I hit the car in front of me b/c I was busy staring at Zahra's house.

Don't you think it's odd that the place is not quarantined off and people go into the yard to place balloons and stuffed animals in the yard? I suppose it's not a crime scene now?

SherlockHomey · #**229** 10-23-2010, 02:26 PM

I also checked out another place in Granite Falls today as someone here asked if I would. It was a former residence of AY and EB and is pretty isolated in the area around it. It would be a perfect dumping ground but there was a gate across the road going into the woods and power lines so we did not go in.

SherlockHomey · #**230** 10-23-2010, 02:34 PM

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2...ker-ar-478734/

"Lisa Dubs confirmed Friday that she has been assigned to Baker’s case as provisional counsel. According to court records, Dubs’ role is to “Conduct a preliminary investigation, determine if the defendant is indigent and needs appointed counsel, and protect the defendant’s rights pending appointment of trial counsel.”

"Dubs is one of about 10 Catawba County attorneys permitted to defend clients facing the death penalty. Even though Baker has not been charged with Zahra’s murder, the case has gained nationwide attention and Hurley has decided that it is appropriate to appoint Dubs because of the likelihood that Baker will eventually be charged with the crime, Dubs explained."

believe09 · #**231** 10-23-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs G Norris

Steven Elhers, Private Investigator hired by EB's lawyers, v basic licence info, you have to scroll down, it's alphabetically listed:

http://technoshaman.com/nullsheen.co...ns/Active5.pdf

No website that I could find...guess you wouldn't. Wonder if the hiring of a PI was why some of the FB pages disappeared? I mean it would have given him a prefect start on who's who and what's what wouldn't it, or not.

Granted this is o/t, but in the Anthony case, the PI's were within yards of Caylee's body the month before she was discovered.

Perhaps they are attempting to find evidence of where Zahra is without obtaining it directly from the people who may have a pretty good idea already. just speculation on my part. Or evidence of Zanny, oops, I mean the kidnappers who took Zahra from the home.

If this is their strategy, we can expect Zahra sightings pretty soon.

believe09 · #**232** 10-23-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SherlockHomey

I also checked out another place in Granite Falls today as someone here asked if I would. It was a former residence of AY and EB and is pretty isolated in the area around it. It would be a perfect dumping ground but there was a gate across the road going into the woods and power lines so we did not go in.

Did you call in a tip to the Sheriff's hotline? They can have the power company disconnect the lines and can legally get onto the property if it is privately owned.

SherlockHomey · #**233** 10-23-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by believe09

Did you call in a tip to the Sheriff's hotline? They can have the power company disconnect the lines and can legally get onto the property if it is privately owned.

No, I didn't. It was just a tip I got from someone here and they asked if I could check it out while sleuthing around. However, it makes perfect sense as isolated as it was. Didn't want to bother LE with something I had nothing to go on. I did take photos but haven't uploaded them yet.

DLT88 · #**234** 10-23-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs G Norris

Sounds to me like the state is paying for the lot;

'North Carolina’s Indigent Defense Services Director and Capital Defender Robert M. Hurley assigned Dubs to Baker’s case Monday.'

'Reilly was appointed to defend Baker on her assortment of charges unrelated to the Zahra Baker homicide investigation and the obstruction of justice charge that followed Baker’s Oct. 12 confession to police that she’d written a fake ransom note demanding $1 million.'

Not sure on the PI but he may come with one of the lawyers.

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2...ase-ar-478084/

I feel sorry for the taxpayers in NC. Same thing happened to us in CA when we got stuck with the humongous bill from the OJ trial. And then gets off scott free. I have a feeling, though, EB won't have his luck.

mytime · #**235** 10-23-2010, 03:03 PM

"Police said that they hoped to "use the mattress to confirm interviews with persons associated with this investigation." They also said that the mattress would be used to reinforce the timeline of Zahra's disappearance."

http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13297637 - They corrected their reporting to - Zahra Baker search: "Key piece of evidence" not found in landfill

I am wondring if LE was just trying to substantiate the furnitures employees statements.

Cinderella. · #**236** 10-23-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SherlockHomey

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2...ker-ar-478734/

"Lisa Dubs confirmed Friday that she has been assigned to Baker’s case as provisional counsel. According to court records, Dubs’ role is to “Conduct a preliminary investigation, determine if the defendant is indigent and needs appointed counsel, and protect the defendant’s rights pending appointment of trial counsel.”

"Dubs is one of about 10 Catawba County attorneys permitted to defend clients facing the death penalty. Even though Baker has not been charged with Zahra’s murder, the case has gained nationwide attention and Hurley has decided that it is appropriate to appoint Dubs because of the likelihood that Baker will eventually be charged with the crime, Dubs explained."

BBM- Even her lawyer thinks shes going to be charged, lol.

DLT88 · #**237** 10-23-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scamperoo

Why isn't Adam Baker visiting his wife and demanding a reason for the ransom note? At the very least he knows she is involved, one would think he would be spilling his guts about now. Instead he hangs around the police seemingly uninvolved and uninterested waiting for them to find something. I have a feeling he will remain stoic until and unless they get close to something and then he will pretend to fall apart. This man watched while his daughter was beaten and bullied by his wife and failed to intervene, he was complicit in her fate for this and IMO her disappearance.

I'm thinking he must have tried to get her to stop at some point because of that account of when her hand was so swollen from hitting Zahra's prosthesis. She told 2 different people that she had to tell AB that she fell because he'd be mad if he found out she hurt it trying to hit Zahra. So there must have been some attempt there. But, I guess, at some point, maybe she threatened to leave him or something if he kept at it so he stopped and preferred to look the other way. Sickening. A lot of women do that, too, when they afraid of losing the spouse.

panthera · #**238** 10-23-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinderella.

BBM- Even her lawyer thinks shes going to be charged, lol.

It wouldn't be a giant leap. LE is conducting a homicide investigation, EB was caring for Zahra, EB allegedly admits to writing a bogus ransom note.....MOO

DLT88 · #**239** 10-23-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by peg4x4

*sigh* At this point,if I saw a photo of EB in the kitchen making oatmeal cookies with
Zarha,I'd think there was something awful going on..
I hope this lovely child is found soon.

I do, too. It may sound so sad, but she deserves a proper burial with respect. A service to honor her life. EB probably threw her out like garbage. Sometimes I think angels come down to earth to see how we treat them. EB failed that one big time.

NoeticSoul · #**240** 10-23-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DLT88

I feel sorry for the taxpayers in NC. Same thing happened to us in CA when we got stuck with the humongous bill from the OJ trial. And then gets off scott free. I have a feeling, though, EB won't have his luck.

Yet another attorney jumping on the 'ol 'fame and fortune bandwagon' to make a name for him or her self. WHY would any lawyer want to rep someone like this? What ever happened to personal integrity? CA, TH, EB all hire high profile attorneys but not one of these women have the means to pay anyone to represent them. Our tax dollars have much better things to do! Like educate children. I JUST don’t get it...

PunKnLuV · #**241** 10-23-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SherlockHomey

Don't you think it's odd that the place is not quarantined off and people go into the yard to place balloons and stuffed animals in the yard? I suppose it's not a crime scene now?

Totally!! The first week after she went missing I didn't want to drive by there much less down that road just b/c I figured it was all blocked off. I still haven't actually driven down there but I am kinda surprised.

passionflower · #**242** 10-23-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mytime

"Police said that they hoped to "use the mattress to confirm interviews with persons associated with this investigation." They also said that the mattress would be used to reinforce the timeline of Zahra's disappearance."

http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13297637 - They corrected their reporting to - Zahra Baker search: "Key piece of evidence" not found in landfill

I am wondring if LE was just trying to substantiate the furnitures employees statements.

maybe the ladies gave her a pen? something with LOGO ?
that would show timeline connection with furniture store???

SherlockHomey · #**243** 10-23-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Donjeta

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2...medium=twitter

How come there was so much work that Adam had to work from early morning to late at night so that he never had time to see his daughter awake but very little income?

Since when did the mulching landscaping business work at night? They won't even work in the rain.

jenniferst · #**244** 10-23-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SherlockHomey

Since when did the mulching landscaping business work at night? They won't even work in the rain.

The ones here where I live work in all kinds of weather and I have seen them out right until the sun goes down.

passionflower · #**245** 10-23-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SherlockHomey

Since when did the mulching landscaping business work at night? They won't even work in the rain.

I live in a condo community and we have a landscaping crew here, mowing grass, mulching,trimming bushes and trees, snow removal.
They have about 6 people and they also do other condo and commercial places.
They come at 9 am and usually leave between 3-5pm.
Now in winter if it snows bad, they come at night, not often.
Seems like they always have Sat/Sun off..........
take turns during winter snow removal.

At camp the tree guys only work daylight hours.
The gravel man same. He quits about 7pm..........
So AB's hours are ODD indeed!
His poor employer trying to do a favor to an immigrant,
probably paying under the table.........pulled into this mess
and have IRS on his butt,

TorisMom003 · #**246** 10-23-2010, 04:05 PM

If the online ad for the lawn co is correct, they only employ 4 people. I tried to find a website for them but it appears they do not have one. Also it appears that this co has only been around for 2 years (I believe that's correct and that I remember it correctly). As far as being paid under the table I know that it does happen quite often with day labor type jobs. For instance some moving companies will pay under the table as it helps with keeping their insurance lower. Some truckers have been known to "hire" someone at a truck stop to help them unload their load and that is paid under the table. I would imagine that it would be the same for lawn care companies. (MOO)

I remember reading that a mother who kills her child will dump the body around 3 miles from the home. We have 2 problems with that in this case. 1. Elisa is not her birth mother sonot sure if that would affect the statistic or not. 2. We are not sure where she was killed at. The 3 miles could be "starting" from anywhere. Unfortunately I feel that the only way Zahra will be found is if one of her "parents" tell LE where she is. I really wish they would go ahead and arrest Adam as well. Lock him up, play one against the other, the first one to tell the truth gets a little bit better deal. I don't want either one to walk away or get a light sentence but I do want this child found.

passionflower · #**247** 10-23-2010, 04:17 PM

has any onre heard anything about the gooy glove the neighbor found in the back yard
by the wood pile?
also LE acted so sure that Zahra's little body would NOT be in landfill......why???
Can we believe that taking the wood chipper apart piece by piece did not turn out to be evidence???
Stories come in both positive and negative throughout this investigation, throwing us all off.

Money Girl · #**248** 10-23-2010, 04:26 PM

I'm sure this is not a popular opinion on here, but I am getting worried that LE "rushed to judgement." I keep thinking that it is possible that Zahra was kidnapped. IMO, everything LE has done appears to be a dead end. Keep wondering if they conducted a grid search around Zahra's home.

reasypeasy · #**249** 10-23-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by passionflower

I live in a condo community and we have a landscaping crew here, mowing grass, mulching,trimming bushes and trees, snow removal.
They have about 6 people and they also do other condo and commercial places.
They come at 9 am and usually leave between 3-5pm.
Now in winter if it snows bad, they come at night, not often.
Seems like they always have Sat/Sun off..........
take turns during winter snow removal.

At camp the tree guys only work daylight hours.
The gravel man same. He quits about 7pm..........
So AB's hours are ODD indeed!
His poor employer trying to do a favor to an immigrant,
probably paying under the table.........pulled into this mess
and have IRS on his butt,

If he was working on an illegal basis in some respect, be it lack of greencard or being paid cash under the table then you shouldn't be feeling sympathy for his employer. People hire immigrants in that way so they can pay them a pittance and give them poor working conditions. That AB looks less like the sort of person you might usually associate with being employed in that manner makes not a bit of difference, the dynamics are the same.

Blue Ridge · #**250** 10-23-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Money Girl

I'm sure this is not a popular opinion on here, but I am getting worried that LE "rushed to judgement." I keep thinking that it is possible that Zahra was kidnapped. IMO, everything LE has done appears to be a dead end. Keep wondering if they conducted a grid search around Zahra's home.

Can't think of any reason under the sun that EB would have written a ransom note if Zahra was kidnapped.