NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct. 2010 #30 - Page 23

Pondering Mind · #**551** 10-28-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Acer

OK - I wasn't going to go in to this but seeing as we seem to be focusing on the wood chipper again:

I live on a farm. We kill our own meat. We cut it up for our own consumption.
This is not an easy thing. You have to know how to dismember a body. You need to know where the joints are. It makes one hell of a mess. It leaves evidence GALORE....even after cleaning up (and our clean up has to be sufficient for a health inspection).

We have also put frozen meat through a saw (in order to make the pieces of meat smaller). It sprays meat. Not a lot but enough to leave obvious evidence.

I truly think that you would have known by now if this was the method used for Zahra. The dogs would have gone crazy, all through the area, not just focused on the woodchipper.

That said it may have been used to dispose of evidence.

not to make light of this...but if anyone has ever even tried to cut up a whole chicken..they would know that it's not as easy as you may think!

sarx · #**552** 10-28-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lera213

So if dogs hit on decomp on the vehicles it is safe to say she was transported in those vehicles or the minimum the fluids were on someone's clothes and drove both vehicles.

It is safe to say that someone(s) or something(s) came into contact with HR and then got in the car.

simlyme · #**553** 10-28-2010, 10:03 PM

Heres one GLOVE article; Many more if you put" Zahra Baker glove" in google bar

http://www.wcnc.com/news/Search-warr...104736309.html

trigger · #**554** 10-28-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by karen in New York

What about Zahra's things? Maybe her personal items, clothes, toys, books, letters, pictures?

If she was put thru the WC wouldn't there be a lot of blood sprayed around? All over his/her clothes/shoes/jewelry/ground/bushes??

cyberborg · #**555** 10-28-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lera213

So if dogs hit on decomp on the vehicles it is safe to say she was transported in those vehicles or the minimum the fluids were on someone's clothes and drove both vehicles.

Which brings up the valid contention that ... if decomp was identified in the cars then ... a deceased body was most likely transported. If a body was transported then it isn't at the home anymore.

This adds to those who feel LE are looking for something else....

Quo erat demonstratum? (QED)

I think therefore I might be.

impatientredhead · #**556** 10-28-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kalekona

I take BS to mean the 7th since it was the closest Thursday to when Zahra went missing.

Honestly I only remember seeing anything about a glove with red goo from one media report (and one that had given mistaken information more than once) I could be wrong but I don't think it was ever confirmed.

LE were clear that the Wood chipper was no longer a good lead. For me that says she did not go in the chipper.

Yes they have still been searching other areas.of

And hurray I finally got my shower. lol

I of course did not hear the context of the statement but the wording leads me to believe the Thursday in question in the 30th.

In my own pattern of speech I would say the Thursday before if referencing a previous week. If I saw some one two days, 48 hours, just before they were never seen again, my language would indicate that type of closeness in the time frame. Know what I mean, omg, I just saw her. Not I saw her the Thursday before her disappearance.

I really wish we knew for sure and in what context she saw her.

NoeticSoul · #**557** 10-28-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lera213

Yeah, hopefully there are searching going on in another county we don't know about. I'm sure they are scouring all EB's previous residents. My selfish side wants to know, but the other side doesn't want to know if the information made public would jeopardize the case.

Past few days, I've been running the gambit of an emotional roller coaster, angry, sad, hopeful, hate, fear, and so sick that I had to leave my computer screen.

Exactly. I want to know too, but more so... I want LE to do a thorough, un-compromised investigation so that whomever did this pays dearly the 1st time, with no justifiable appeals or acquittals.

Patty G · #**558** 10-28-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamille

I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to get caught up today but does anyone know if a shoe was found on the prosthetic and if the other shoe was found at the house?

Nothing about a shoe was reported on or off the prosthetic leg during the press conference.

sarx · #**559** 10-28-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by trigger

If she was put thru the WC wouldn't there be a lot of blood sprayed around? All over his/her clothes/shoes/jewelry/ground/bushes??

Let's just say there would be enough evidence that the investigation would be pretty much done, arrests would have been made, and there would be no need for all those people to still be out there looking for her.

cyberborg · #**560** 10-28-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Suthrnqt

That's how I feel about the wood chipper; I won't even let my mind go there. That's why I offered up the possibility that maybe bedroom furniture or bedding may have been put through instead.

Could also be a complete red herring as well

imamaze · #**561** 10-28-2010, 10:09 PM

Closing thread, please continue here...

Thread #31

Thread #31

MsBrisbee · #**562** 10-28-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by panthera

Good question, Kamille. I'd imagine the shoe on the prosthesis wouldn't be removed as one would their own foot. As to what LE was looking for around where the prosthesis was found it could be anything from a shoe to the "socks" she'd have to wear with the prosthesis. That could be the fabric-looking material that was discussed here last night. MOO

The "sock" is a soft cotton sock worn over the stump. It keeps the stump cushoined and dry and is suppose to stop friction. Does not lood like a regular sock we wear on our feet. More like a knit cap, that goes over the stump. Whether you have a below the knee, or above the knee, these socks are worn for comfort and protection.

panthera · #**563** 10-28-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NoeticSoul

Perhaps the mattress in one vehicle and ZH in the other...
(I believe that she died in her bed) JMO

I also believe that's where she was killed, and I agree, I believe she was placed in one vehicle (likely the sedan) while the mattress and whatever else was put in the Tahoe. MOO

sarx · #**564** 10-28-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberborg

Which brings up the valid contention that ... if decomp was identified in the cars then ... a deceased body was most likely transported. If a body was transported then it isn't at the home anymore.

This adds to those who feel LE are looking for something else....

Quo erat demonstratum? (QED)

I think therefore I might be.

A body was possibly transported. Something was in the car for them to hit on, but what they can't tell us. Was it transfer scent? Was it a body? Was it bedding? Was it clothing? Was it from being on one person who got into both cars or two separate people in the two cars? How I wish they could talk.
True, the odds are this means that she was moved and is no longer there, but the minute LE starts making assumptions is the minute something is missed.

Lera213 · #**565** 10-28-2010, 10:11 PM

Question: On this website http://texasequusearch.org/ This list cases, reading the short information by each picture you can conclude that equusearch his actively helping those cases. Since Zahra Baker is listed, but it doesn't state anything as if they are actually helping in the case. Do you all think they are but it isn't publicly announced for some reason?

I hope they are involved because they could add some value theory's or leads