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Old 12-01-2010, 01:15 AM
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Baby died in washing machine after agency "screened out'' abuse

A Bartlesville mother accused of child neglect in the death of her 10-day-old baby was investigated by state child welfare workers on six previous occasions, including taking so many prescription drugs near her due date while pregnant she was unable to walk stairs or speak clearly, according to a report released Tuesday by the Oklahoma Commission on Children and Youth.
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Between March 27, 2009, and Oct. 25, Fiddler had been investigated for allegedly using drugs with other people in the home with children, slapping a child so hard it left a bruise and using drugs throughout her pregnancy with Maggie May.

On June 21, Oklahoma Department of Human Services investigators were notified that a family member died in the home after using drugs. The children were located upstairs, and a family member arrived to take the children away, the report states.

"An additional family member in the home wanted the children to stay there but kept passing out from drugs while trying to argue the point," the report states.
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This sounds like these kids were living in a house of horrors. It's completely unacceptable that investigators went into that home, and yet allowed kids back in there. I know I couldn't do that kind of work. How could you sleep at night, knowing you left helpless kids in a place like that?
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:49 PM
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Why does this happen OVER and OVER and OVER again??????
WHY????

I hate to harp on DSS's downfalls but SOMETHING has GOT to change!!!
Our children are being murdered on DSS's watch.
I'm generally a big defender of DHS, but here in Oklahoma - not so much. The failure seems not necessarily to be the case workers's, but in lousy administration and decision-making above field-level.
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:23 AM
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Family of Baby Found in Washing Machine Stunned by Investigation


Posted: Dec 02, 2010 9:25 PM CST
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Maggie May's family is stunned by the report because they didn't realize DHS had been so involved. This week a report came out highlighting several investigations into the child's welfare by DHS.

The 10 day old baby was found dead in her mother's washing machine on November 4 in Bartlesville.

An aunt of Maggie May's told KTUL.com the family is still grieving the death of the child that happened nearly a month ago and the report that came out this week was a complete shock to them.

"It's just crazy how the law is I guess and how DHS runs, it's unbelievable," says Jessica Solis, Maggie May's Aunt.


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What I do not understand is why she is not being charged with murder.As far as DHS they are not protecting the children across the states they are failing them big time.We need to do something to change the way they take charge with no over site.They answer to no one,not police,FBI,that is a big mistake.They do not protect the children by leaving them with drugged up mothers,or in homes where children have stated they are abused.
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:27 PM
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I agree 100% that it isn't always the case workers but those above field-level.In NJ it is horrible, sadly as I read about these cases here,it is across the USA.
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"We might would have tried to do more to, I don't know, maybe try to find the evidence that they needed," says Jessica Solis, Maggie May's Aunt.
I have huge troubles with this case, DHS did have proof mom was using, both during the pregnancy and at birth mom tested positive. Baby Maggie looked like a drug baby and I'm will to bet she was riddled with symptoms - this Meth head should never have been allowed to take her home.

While my heart goes out to the family, those who were aware of mom's drug use should have done more - especially family, mom's doctor, the hospital and DHS.

Maybe it should be up to a parent to have to prove that they are not users or abusers, at some point - say after testing positive 1 time or after a case of abuse is verified (whether proved or not - just successfully identified).

I worked in OB for 5 years - the police were called and mom was arrested in her bed, baby was placed in protective custody, when drug tests came back or if mom was found with track marks - no questions asked. Those babies suffered terribly. Drug use during pregnancy is Child Abuse. Maggie was failed before she was placed in that washer. MOO

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Old 12-03-2010, 02:41 PM
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I have some knowledege of how TX CPS handles cases like this (though much less severe than this).

Newly married couple; the father tested positive for marijuana (court-ordered testing; he'd had one prior conviction, for burglary).

TX CPS....
* first placed the newborn with responsible relatives
* developed a care plan with those and other relatives, and the parents
* visited the home weekly for interviews with both parents
* of course visited the relatives's home at least weekly to observe progress, integrate parents into care plan
* after developing a further care plan, restored the baby to its parents
* scheduled and conducted six more months of follow-up weekly visits with the parents, including extra, random checks

And this was for a failed marijuana test, no evidence of harder drugs, and a clean record for the father since the initial arrest some years prior. The mother had no marks against her at all.

Why Oklahoma cannot manage this is simply impossible to say. This case was much more severe than the TX one above, and included OD-ing drug-users and multiple accounts of meth usage in the home. Why was the child still in the home - or allowed to go home from the hospital to a place like that, in the first place?
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Pair of Oklahoma child deaths spotlight disturbing trend
The November washing machine death of a Bartlesville infant and last summer's drug overdose death of a teenager at a family reunion are examples of a disturbing trend
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The chairman and vice chairman of the Oklahoma Commission for Human Services told The Oklahoman they believe a new state law that narrows conditions under which children can be removed from homes has created situations where DHS workers and courts are leaving children in homes when the better choice might be to remove them.

The new law that went into effect Jan. 1 requires child welfare workers, law enforcement officers and courts to determine there is an “imminent safety threat” to a child before that child can be removed from a home. Previously, officials only had to show the child's surroundings were a danger to the child's welfare.

Under the new standard, officials must determine the threat is so severe that “in the very near future and without the intervention of another person, a child would likely or in all probability sustain severe or permanent disability or injury, illness or death.”

“My feeling on it is that when they changed that to imminent safety threat, I think that hurt us greatly on being able to remove some children,” said Aneta Wilkinson, vice chairman of the commission. “It seems like they raised the bar so high that maybe that has really hurt us. I think we need to look into it more and make some changes.”

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BARTLESVILLE, Oklahoma – The death of a ten-day-old Washington County baby has been thrust into the middle of a federal class action lawsuit.
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Oklahoma's Department of Human Services says it's getting better and that it has a federal review and the numbers to back it up. The organization suing the agency says the numbers are misleading and Maggie May's death could prove it.
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"Don't you want to know? Wouldn't a reasonable person want to know what happened in this case?" said Paul DeMurro, plaintiff's attorney.

"Why didn't you take this child into state custody?" DeMurro asked. "And if this child is an example of how you're conducting your assessments than we have a major problem."
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I'll say it and get hammered with you! Some women should not be allowed to have babies. It's too bad her family was not able to get those kids away from her in time.

That poor baby was only ten days old. The mom had been high on meth for three of those days, maybe more. *sigh*
I'll say it, too, because I believe there are certain women & men who should not be allowed to procreate or to take care of children. DEFINITELY need to take KYs lead & require drug testing for those who need help!
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BARTLESVILLE — A 26-year-old Bartlesville woman whose baby was found dead in a washing machine has been charged with first-degree murder in the infant’s death.

Washington County District Attorney Kevin Buchanan on Wednesday filed the murder charge against Lyndsey Dawn Fiddler, who also faces a felony child neglect charge in the Nov. 4 death of her 10-day-old baby.

A preliminary hearing in the case is scheduled March 10
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The murder charge alleges the baby died because Fiddler failed to adequately care for the infant due to exposure to illegal drugs.

Initial reports during the police investigation showed Fiddler tested positive for methamphetamine, amphetamines, benzodiazepine and opiates.
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The report notes the baby had numerous contusions and abrasions consistent with the conditions that would be endured “while in the washing machine during a wash cycle.” There were no drugs or alcohol in the baby’s system according to toxicology tests performed by the Medical Examiner’s Office.
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The baby’s great aunt, Rhonda Coshatt, told authorities she fed Maggie May and changed her diaper before Fiddler took the infant to another room, saying she was going to put the girl to bed.

Coshatt told police she found the baby in the washing machine, which had been making noises as if it were out of balance. Fiddler has denied placing the baby in the washing machine.
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BARTLESVILLE - Lyndsey Dawn Fiddler has been bound over for trial on two counts, first-degree murder and felony child neglect. Fiddler's preliminary hearing began in Washington County District Court on Thursday morning, presided over by Special Judge John Gerkin.
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During the preliminary hearing, police testified that Fiddler’s two sons, ages 5 and 8, were “hysterical” as police tried to determine what happened in the home.

“I asked (Fiddler) what happened,” Officer Stacy Neafus said. “She was crying and she threw her hands up in the air, and she said, ‘I guess I put my baby in the washing machine.'”
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Officer Adam Duncan and Officer Chris Mims both testified about Fiddler’s perceived drug use, saying she had a condition described as “meth mouth” or “tweaking,” where her mouth was continually moving when they interviewed her on the night of the baby’s death.

Lt. Mike McCarty testified that Fiddler was confused and he had to ask her three times to put on her shoes so she could go to the police station.

“She appeared to be intoxicated,” McCarty said. “She was staggering; she had slurred speech. She was hysterical. As she spoke, her speech was really slurred.”
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Trial date set for woman accused in newborn's death

Due to start 29 AUG 2011 by this article. Yikes, get a look at that mugshot.(drug usage?)


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Trial date set for woman accused in newborn's death

Due to start 29 AUG 2011 by this article. Yikes, get a look at that mugshot.(drug usage?)


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Oh Gosh! I remember this case.....ugh.

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The issue of which charges Fiddler will face in trial is being debated now in court documents.

Bartlesville attorney Mark Kane, who is representing Fiddler as a public defender, filed a motion in district court asking to quash the murder charge in the case. Kane argues the facts of the case indicate a charge of second-degree manslaughter would be more appropriate.
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I often think ..........look at this picture (of mom)........someone MATED with that!

That baby never stood a chance had she not died that night.

It's just so damn sad.
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Another picture of Lyndsey Fiddler that's not quite as bad. Meth wrecks looks.

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Wow... the baby looked so sickly and weak. She was obviously born addicted, malnourished, etc... even unhappy. Can a newborn look unhappy...? That one sure did..... RIP.
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I have never seen a newborn looking tense like that, I bet dear little thing was addicted too, don't they test mums when drugs are expected? Why was that baby allowed home with her?

At least little Maggie May is in a better place now, it's a crying shame that she wasn't allowed to have a life
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...baby was found in a washing machine that had just completed a spin cycle.


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Police reports showed that Fiddler tested positive for methamphetamine, amphetamines, benzodiazepine and opiates.
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Wow... the baby looked so sickly and weak. She was obviously born addicted, malnourished, etc... even unhappy. Can a newborn look unhappy...? That one sure did..... RIP.
Exactly what I was thinking...tiny little maggie...dear god this poor baby! RIP Maggie
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I was a foster parent for many years and I've cared for many Maggie Mays. Most would come straight from the hospital after birth, some after an injury : ( .
I will never forget a hearing when a case worker was arguing for a baby to be returned to it's mother ,who had true schizophrenia and drank every day ,including throughout her pregnancy.
She argued that they would have to return the child until the mother actually did something to him ! This was the baby's caseworker!
Luckily the judge and guardian ad litem thought differently. Mom eventually opted out and we adopted him.
There was a period of time when our local DA was pushing for arrests of mothers who used drugs during pregnancy because of the damage done to the child. Testing was done at birth and many moms were arrested,until various advocates put a stop to it.Several times I took 2 newborns at a time because there were so many and so few foster homes willing (HIV scare,baby withdrawal,etc...) to take on these special babies.

I'm not justifying any decisions Social Services makes,but remember ,they have to put those kids somewhere when they remove them from families. When the caseworkers know the few foster homes they have are full what are they supposed to do? Due to laws and fire codes there's a limit on how many kids a home can have and some foster parents are very specific about the ages they'll accept,etc.

I think it's a Ghandi quote that's so appropriate "be the change you wish to see in the world".
I was a foster parent for 17 years ,adopted 4 of the babies ,including medically fragile/developmentally disabled. I did it because I loved caring for those babies and because I could, but I'm happy to pass the torch.
If you can't be a foster parent find out how you can support those that are . Maybe there will be a few less Maggie Mays if Social Services has more options.
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I was a foster parent for many years and I've cared for many Maggie Mays. Most would come straight from the hospital after birth, some after an injury : ( .
I will never forget a hearing when a case worker was arguing for a baby to be returned to it's mother ,who had true schizophrenia and drank every day ,including throughout her pregnancy.
She argued that they would have to return the child until the mother actually did something to him ! This was the baby's caseworker!
Luckily the judge and guardian ad litem thought differently. Mom eventually opted out and we adopted him.
There was a period of time when our local DA was pushing for arrests of mothers who used drugs during pregnancy because of the damage done to the child. Testing was done at birth and many moms were arrested,until various advocates put a stop to it.Several times I took 2 newborns at a time because there were so many and so few foster homes willing (HIV scare,baby withdrawal,etc...) to take on these special babies.

I'm not justifying any decisions Social Services makes,but remember ,they have to put those kids somewhere when they remove them from families. When the caseworkers know the few foster homes they have are full what are they supposed to do? Due to laws and fire codes there's a limit on how many kids a home can have and some foster parents are very specific about the ages they'll accept,etc.

I think it's a Ghandi quote that's so appropriate "be the change you wish to see in the world".
I was a foster parent for 17 years ,adopted 4 of the babies ,including medically fragile/developmentally disabled. I did it because I loved caring for those babies and because I could, but I'm happy to pass the torch.
If you can't be a foster parent find out how you can support those that are . Maybe there will be a few less Maggie Mays if Social Services has more options.
Thank you miss james for opening your home to these precious babies.....it must have been very difficult. Bless your heart!

I know what it's like to hear a caseworker tell "We have to wait until something happens"! It is the most frustrating and sad thing to hear, really! Is like why wait, why not prevent!

Parents on drugs=disaster in the works...help fix that before it becomes an issue.
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