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Kyron Horman Kyron went missing from his school in Oregon. His mother has a civil suit on his step-mother and his father is in the middle of a divorce. WHERE IS KYRON?


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Old 11-15-2010, 02:48 PM
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Why would LE show these e-mails (from Terri, about Kyron) to Desiree & Kaine?

I am trying to figure out what LE was trying to gain, or what point they were trying to make, in showing these e-mails referred to by Desiree, to Kyron's parents?

Both parents have stated emphatically, to say the least, that they believe Terri is the key to what happened to Kyron. So it wasn't to get them to believe that.

Was it a step in convincing the parents that Kyron is likely dead, murdered by Terri, so that they can move ahead with a case without finding Kyron, having everyone on board?

I can't imagine inflicting this pain on Desiree without a good reason. Now she has to have nightmares about her little boy living with a woman who she now thinks hated her child.
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As I listened to Desiree, and her anger toward Kaine, I perceived it as directed at just this question. If these emails show a person who openly hated her child, how could Kaine have kept that from her, and kept her from being able to take care of their son to ensure his safety. That's what I understood from her presser anyway.
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:55 PM
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Since none of us are LE, I don't believe anyone can know the answer to that question. Perhaps it's because they feel it's necessary as part of their investigation. Should they not share things that they have learned about Terri's possible role in Kyron's disappearance to his parents because it might inflict pain on them? Do you not think Terri's role in this has been inflicting pain on them for the past 5-1/2 months? I'm quite sure that LE knows what they need to share with his parents and when they need to do it and it's not up to any of us to question it. ~JMO~
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:58 PM
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Since none of us are LE, I don't believe anyone can know the answer to that question. Perhaps it's because they feel it's necessary as part of their investigation. Should they not share things that they have learned about Terri's possible role in Kyron's disappearance to his parents because it might inflict pain on them? Do you not think Terri's role in this has been inflicting pain on them for the past 5-1/2 months? I'm quite sure that LE knows what they need to share with his parents and when they need to do it and it's not up to any of us to question it. ~JMO~
I think we are allowed to wonder about things, and what could be the reason for the parents needing this information...
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As I listened to Desiree, and her anger toward Kaine, I perceived it as directed at just this question. If these emails show a person who openly hated her child, how could Kaine have kept that from her, and kept her from being able to take care of their son to ensure his safety. That's what I understood from her presser anyway.
I'm confused. Do you think LE showed the emails to the parents to cause a split between them? Seriously, for what purpose?

How would that suit the purposes of LE? That may be the result...but are you answering the question posed in this thread..that the decison to show the emails was to divide the parents...causing anger was the intent?
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:07 PM
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I was thinking that perhaps the person at the other end of the e-mails has come forward with some helpful info?
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:10 PM
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I was thinking that perhaps the person at the other end of the e-mails has come forward with some helpful info?
Yes, perhaps the parents receive regular updates...and this was some new information just provided to LE.
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Is there a link to the emails?
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If Terri did this, in order to figure out what she did with him, they would need to profile her. So maybe LE wanted to ask questions such as "Have you ever seen/heard Terri talk in this way before? What were the circumstances? What was going on before and after she spoke in this way?"

Or maybe questions such as, "What was going on at the time Terri wrote this email? Did she seem stressed? What was her demeanor in that timeframe?"

Or "Are the things Terri said this email true? Do you know anything about these events she's describing? How would you describe these events? What was your perception of what happened?"

Great topic, cluciano! Thanks for the thread.
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I'm confused. Do you think LE showed the emails to the parents to cause a split between them? Seriously, for what purpose?

How would that suit the purposes of LE? That may be the result...but are you answering the question posed in this thread..that the decison to show the emails was to divide the parents...causing anger was the intent?
I was speaking of my observations on what Desiree had to say about these emails.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:22 PM
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I was speaking of my observations on what Desiree had to say about these emails.
Oh, thanks. I didn't understand they were your opinions of observations. Of course. no matter what disappointment Desiree has in Kaine...nothing can mitigate the rage and disgust she must feel toward Terri. Hating a small child who loved her! Imagine!

I thought you were addressing the thread topic:

"Thread: Why would LE show these e-mails (from Terri, about Kyron) to Desiree & Kaine? "

Thank you for clearing that up.
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I guess I was assuming that LE has had these e-mails for a while, and that may or may not be the case. If they have had them, then I am really wondering why now. What was the reason D&K needed to know now?

If they just got them, am wondering why it would take almost 6 months to obtain e-mails sent from Terri's computer. Does anyone know if it would take that long, if neither the sender or receipient came forward with them?
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I guess I was assuming that LE has had these e-mails for a while, and that may or may not be the case. If they have had them, then I am really wondering why now. What was the reason D&K needed to know now?

If they just got them, am wondering why it would take almost 6 months to obtain e-mails sent from Terri's computer. Does anyone know if it would take that long, if neither the sender or receipient came forward with them?
I'm not sure how long it would take to get a court order for, say, Yahoo or Hotmail in order to get the email info. stored on their servers. My initial reaction was because LE is preparing for a no body case, but Desiree's and Kaine's reactions were total polar opposites. She _almost_ seemed defeated about whether Kyron is still alive whereas Kaine was pretty adamant that he is.

This case is extremely confusing.
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I am assuming that LE had legal access to TH's computer since very early in June...so it does surprise me if it would take so long to reconstruct even deleted e-mails, in a case where for a while at least, time was of the essence.
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BeanE posted in the presser thread that Kaine stated that LE did not take their computers. I'll see if I can find that again.
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I am assuming that LE had legal access to TH's computer since very early in June...so it does surprise me if it would take so long to reconstruct even deleted e-mails, in a case where for a while at least, time was of the essence.
True. But, if she was, like Kaine said, the "master of misdirection," she could have very easily used a library computer or even someone else's. I can't remember for the life of me where I read about her alternate email addresses (the MC texts?) - they had some ick (perhaps sexual) connotation, IIRC. And I can't remember when LE served the subpoenas on her friend's homes either. I need to look this stuff up again with links.
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BeanE posted in the presser thread that Kaine stated that LE did not take their computers. I'll see if I can find that again.
If you search the Reference Forum for the keyword warrants it should pop right up.
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True. But, if she was, like Kaine said, the "master of misdirection," she could have very easily used a library computer or even someone else's. I can't remember for the life of me where I read about her alternate email addresses (the MC texts?) - they had some ick (perhaps sexual) connotation, IIRC. And I can't remember when LE served the subpoenas on her friend's homes either. I need to look this stuff up again with links.
I think her email addresses were discussed in the MSM article on KATU about the comments she left on their site. I just posted that article yesterday in the All parent/steps interviews thread in the reference forum. You might give it a check for it.
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Le has their reason for showing these emails to Desiree and Kaine. I think for some reason, they wanted the public to be aware of them. LE couldn't very well hold a pressure and announce them to the public. Maybe they want to jog someones memory, or get someone to come forward with information, that they don't have yet. I think LE very purposefully did what they did, just not sure yet what it is.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:50 PM
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cluciano63, I can't think of a single reason why LE would show these emails to Desiree, especially at such a late date. It must be bad enough for her to read Kaine's court filings, but now to read emails that describe Terri's hatred of Kyron? I have no idea why LE would do this. Talk about kicking her while she's down!

"Kaine told me it was not an option on several occasions and it was a point of contention with us," Young said.

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Why would LE show these e-mails to Desiree?

Because they believe she is entitled to the truth as Kyron's parent.

Apparently she was not getting the truth from Kaine. OPINION

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They are doing an investigation, knowing these pieces of info might make something else click for Desiree that fills in the blanks.

And her child is missing in a homicide investigation, she is not a suspect, and it would be cold hearted and inappropriate to withhold them.

She may need them to process what is really happening and get herself out of some purgatory where she believes her child might be alive. That would be sadistic.

But at the end of the day LE's job is to investigate the crime and find out what happened, if they are not withholding the information for the benefit of the case it is inappropriate to filter what she knows and what she doesn't.
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I guess I am curious about the timing...whether LE held on to these for a while, or only just got them. If they had them a while, there has to be a reason they showed them to D&K now.
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BeanE posted in the presser thread that Kaine stated that LE did not take their computers. I'll see if I can find that again.

They don't have to take computers, all they do is hook-up a storage device and make a copy of the hard drive and take that storage device back to examine the hard drive.
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They are doing an investigation, knowing these pieces of info might make something else click for Desiree that fills in the blanks.

And her child is missing in a homicide investigation, she is not a suspect, and it would be cold hearted and inappropriate to withhold them.

She may need them to process what is really happening and get herself out of some purgatory where she believes her child might be alive. That would be sadistic.

But at the end of the day LE's job is to investigate the crime and find out what happened, if they are not withholding the information for the benefit of the case it is inappropriate to filter what she knows and what she doesn't.
Isn't it still a criminal investigation? I realize that homicide is a criminal act, but calling it a homicide investigation states all other criminal options are removed.
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