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Old 11-19-2010, 07:25 PM
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Sorry Daisy7 but I am not sure what to call [this unusual person] at this point. If the marriage was not valid then what is her name? Is it still EY? No that can't be because he got a divorce. So is it EF (revert to maiden name)? Or would it be whatever her previous alias is? Or is it still EB despite the fact that according to AB and the recent bigamy bombshell their marriage is a lie?

Seriously not trying to be snarky but I really cannot tell which way is up with this womans's name at this point
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ITA Ti-
And I also think AY knew long before the public knew that bigamy was going to come into this case. I think alot of his FB posting (while genuine in his feelings) were a sort of pre-emptive strike as he knew how it might make him look once it all became public!
as was maybe his quick marriage?
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Would simply E work?
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Would simply E work?
thank you, I had just decided that E? is what I will now refer to her as.
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lol at rb, I swear I posted that before reading yours.

E? it is.
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I second. It fits.
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Sorry Daisy7 but I am not sure what to call [this unusual person] at this point. If the marriage was not valid then what is her name? Is it still EY? No that can't be because he got a divorce. So is it EF (revert to maiden name)? Or would it be whatever her previous alias is? Or is it still EB despite the fact that according to AB and the recent bigamy bombshell their marriage is a lie?

Seriously not trying to be snarky but I really cannot tell which way is up with this womans's name at this point.
JMO, but I'll continue referring to her as EB until the State of North Carolina charges her otherwise. She is still charged and incarcerated as EB.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:39 PM
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She is being identified as EB in MSM at this point. Now, personally, AB is not high on MY list of people who should be throwing mud at others. In any case, until there is some kind of clarification from MSM, a civil court or EB herself, I think we should stick with EB.

I get it, I really do. You guys do not believe she married AB legally. But I dont think we will hurt anything by following MSM references.
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lol at rb, I swear I posted that before reading yours.

E? it is.
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This thread has already been pulled for review once today. Stay on topic. Otherwise, the thread will go away permanently. Call her E or EB. Any other variation is not allowed.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:52 PM
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I dont think you have to have worked to be on disability. I could be wrong with her being an adult. I do know people who are on it that really never worked but not sure of thier age when they were deemed eligible.
As for the drawing SS from a former spouse I can answer that one. My husbands ex wife tried to draw off of his but couldnt because they were not married 10 years. As it was explained to me when I am old enough to draw SS I can draw off both my husbands because I was married to them both over the 10 year limit.
I know that my mom and my dad's 2nd wife BOTH draw from my dad's SS. He was only married to wife #2 for 5 years. (but she was married to husband #1 for over 20 years) My mom flipped out about it because she thought at first that it would affect her $ amt. when she started drawing it..but it didn't..

I am very curious about her disability (if she is/was drawing a ck) I always was under the impression that what you are able to draw was based on how much you had made up until the point you started drawing it?

westsidefox, will you be able to draw from both husbands or from either/or? (as in which one is the highest $ amt) just curious..this kind of stuff always confuses me...
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The only way anyone would have known about the bigamy is if AY brought it up. At the time. Of the murder that is. But he brought it up now. After the murder-so how can it be a motivation?

I mean AB and EB were so incredibly concerned over SSI payments and immigration status that they slaughtered a profoundly disabled 10 year old and cut her to pieces in order to prevent anyone from knowing COD...so...what's the end of the story here?

This is the part I am not getting. What was the benefit of having killed Zahra and called her in a missing weeks later? (my personal theory.) They should have killed AY then.

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I know that my mom and my dad's 2nd wife BOTH draw from my dad's SS. He was only married to wife #2 for 5 years. (but she was married to husband #1 for over 20 years) My mom flipped out about it because she thought at first that it would affect her $ amt. when she started drawing it..but it didn't..

I am very curious about her disability (if she is/was drawing a ck) I always was under the impression that what you are able to draw was based on how much you had made up until the point you started drawing it?

westsidefox, will you be able to draw from both husbands or from either/or? (as in which one is the highest $ amt) just curious..this kind of stuff always confuses me...
I hate to say one way or the other because I havent really checked into it. I just know when my husband turned 65 they told me I could draw off both my husbands when I turned 62 because I had been married to both of them over 10 years. I turned 46 yesterday so really havent delved into it to hard. I do know my husbands ex was widowed last year and was trying to draw off her late husband and my husband also and wasnt eligible to draw off my husband because they were not married 10 yrs. Also they were only married just short of 5 years? I know my mom drew off her first husbands military pention and my dads SS, because she died on the first day of the month and I had to figure out if I could use the checks to pay her final utility bills. I do believe both military pention and SS are both federal so should apply in all states.HTH
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I am not sure, cause goodness knows I am no expert on SSI, but I think SSI is lifetime earnings based. It doesn't seem as if E had much of a work/earning history.

As to drawing on multiple people that I do not know. I do know that SS has placed a "cap" on what each household can draw from it. But I have no idea what that cap is.

ETA excepting disability for minor children. I am unsure how that exactly works as far as the amount and what governs it.

ETAA that I just realized this whole debate may be considered OT as this is the E & Bigmany thread.


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I know that my mom and my dad's 2nd wife BOTH draw from my dad's SS. He was only married to wife #2 for 5 years. (but she was married to husband #1 for over 20 years) My mom flipped out about it because she thought at first that it would affect her $ amt. when she started drawing it..but it didn't..

I am very curious about her disability (if she is/was drawing a ck) I always was under the impression that what you are able to draw was based on how much you had made up until the point you started drawing it?
westsidefox, will you be able to draw from both husbands or from either/or? (as in which one is the highest $ amt) just curious..this kind of stuff always confuses me...
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I honestly dont know much about disability payments other than most have to apply more than one time to get it. My last 2 babys were premies one 1lb 3oz and 7 years later the other 2 lbs 10 oz. They both automatically were eligible for 3 years of disability. $364.00 a month and full medical. My 1 lb 3 oz was eligible to draw and extra 3 years because of his surgerys but I refused it as he was healthy happy and I felt someone else could use that more than him...OT My babys are now 19 (fullback) for a collage football team and father of a beautiful baby girl, the other is 12 and 136 lbs. Both healthy happy guys with no health problems.
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In reference to the AY and E divorce papers. He clearly put her name as EB. I wonder if that makes the AB and E marriage not legal, should the name not have been EY? I'm kind of confused on that.
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I hate to say one way or the other because I havent really checked into it. I just know when my husband turned 65 they told me I could draw off both my husbands when I turned 62 because I had been married to both of them over 10 years. I turned 46 yesterday so really havent delved into it to hard. I do know my husbands ex was widowed last year and was trying to draw off her late husband and my husband also and wasnt eligible to draw off my husband because they were not married 10 yrs. Also they were only married just short of 5 years? I know my mom drew off her first husbands military pention and my dads SS, because she died on the first day of the month and I had to figure out if I could use the checks to pay her final utility bills. I do believe both military pention and SS are both federal so should apply in all states.HTH
Lordy you're young, so we won't rush it, lol! Everything that has to do with SS puzzles me..I'll have to do some research and see if there is maybe a 5 yr cut off..just out of curiosity. My dad's 2nd wife passed away a couple yrs ago, but I'll never forget my mom going berzerk when she found out this woman could draw my dads SS. We had a mess because he died @ 58 with no will and right smack in the middle of a very nasty divorce..


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Since it seems to be going O/T - someone please clarify how Social Security Disability fits in with "EB & Bigamy"? I am confused!
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I know that my mom and my dad's 2nd wife BOTH draw from my dad's SS. He was only married to wife #2 for 5 years. (but she was married to husband #1 for over 20 years) My mom flipped out about it because she thought at first that it would affect her $ amt. when she started drawing it..but it didn't..

I am very curious about her disability (if she is/was drawing a ck) I always was under the impression that what you are able to draw was based on how much you had made up until the point you started drawing it?

westsidefox, will you be able to draw from both husbands or from either/or? (as in which one is the highest $ amt) just curious..this kind of stuff always confuses me...
I don't know if there is a disability besides social security disability EB could apply for, but my statement of benefits tell me I am no longer eligible for disability because I haven't worked enough quarters in the last 10 years. I read that from my own statement. I worked for years but stayed home for the last 10 to raise my four kids. I am no longer eligible for social security disabilty. When my mom changed her social security benefits after my father died they told her if she had been married more than once they pick the one with the most benefits to draw from.
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Since it seems to be going O/T - someone please clarify how Social Security Disability fits in with "EB & Bigamy"? I am confused!
It was stated by her lawyer she applied for disabiltiy and someone wondered since she has been married so many times who she may draw from.
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It was stated by her lawyer she applied for disabiltiy and someone wondered since she has been married so many times who she may draw from.
Thank you - I appreciate the clarification.
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I'll pull it all together! Could EB have thought she would get benefits for Zahra once she got her to the states? Doesn't federal disability pay benefits for a disabled child? What if one of the benefits of moving AB and Zahra to the states was for the money and then the money didn't pan out?

Maybe one of the factors of EB's rage was money she thought she was get that she didn't get.

Not really my opinion but tossing out thoughts...
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