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Apparently he cut the utilities off for something but I don't know if I should say here since it's all rumor. However the person I got it from got it from someone in LE. But it makes sense considering the house was lined with bags of leaves....
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I thought maybe he was going to torch the place. I figured the utilities were off for non payment since he has no employment.
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for those not following this case and all it's miriad of links from the start...
it seems that this MONSTER has been pegged by neighbors and friends and most people who have ever lived in the vicinity of him as 'strange', 'bad' and other various other expletives.
He seemed to have grown up in the warren area of Ohio and than moved to the howard area where he attended HS/vocational school.
Somehow from there he ends up out in Colorado... in a similar small town like Mount Vernon, as a plumber in Steam Boat Springs, Colorado. He gets a call to a condo unit and later takes keys from that condo unit to steal a car from another condo unit. He methodically goes out, after the theft, to get 10 gallons of gas... carts them past young and old alike living there at the time (per SA interview on the case linked in past threads) and lights a fire and drives off. The SA in that case does NOT think the fire was to cover his crime.
He serves roughly six years for this crime in colorado and he is released on parole... Where does he come? yes.. back to knox county ohio. The home where he was listed as living was owned by his parents (((not throwing blame here by the way just stating his money facts... I actually feel very badly for them...))). Even though unemployed.. and seen lounging in his trees and aggitating neighbors... he only held a job for 8 days... and at that job he failed to include his criminal past upon application. He recently broke up with a girlfriend and was described by current neighbors as strange... much like the descriptions of neighbors in his youth.
He has now apparently led detectives to a hollow tree where he shoved the bodies of Tina, Stephanie, and Kody... ensconsed in trash bags. No confirmation on how they died, if they were bound, or if they were intact... but it was ensured that great care was taken to ensure the dignity of the recovery of their remains... and I know in my SOUL this Sheriff will take that to the bank.
Rest in peace
Tina.
Kody.
Stephanie.
And let us NOT forget Stephanie... not much has been revealed about her.. and her name was ((I am sure as an error by the prosecutor)) left out of the presser... but stephanie, your smile was contagious..and it is a DAMN SHAME that you will not be able to share it with anyone else on earth. I look forward to seeing it someday in heaven ((and yes I plan on going there lol))
If I left anything out sorry..
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Wow, Im so very sorry to hear this, but not surprised, I feel like a dumb arse for not reading back. Poor Sarah and all the families involved.
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11-18-2010, 09:05 PM
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what bathtub rumor?
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11-18-2010, 09:06 PM
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I thought maybe he was going to torch the place. I figured the utilities were off for non payment since he has no employment.
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Well I suppose that makes sense. If he did torch the place properly and no remains or evidence were found he would be a free man. I doubt they would have found the other bodies in the tree. This guys is crazy, but extremely smart.
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11-18-2010, 09:07 PM
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trust me... this guy is a monster to go into the future monster text books of the world....
-Sheriff says he is still in a suicide gown (presser)
-shared info on exactly where to find the bodies
death penalty deal?
~thoughts??????
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Oh - you know it's gotta be because his attorneys advised him that DP was going to be on the table - and if he wanted to have his life spared - then tell all and they would use the info as a bargaining tool.
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11-18-2010, 09:07 PM
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what bathtub rumor?
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Someone heard a rumor that Sarah heard him in the bathroom with a saw
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11-18-2010, 09:07 PM
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How and WHY??? did he kill these lovely women and little boy???
Was he 'saving' little Sarah for worse possible torture?
According to TV news girlfriend called LE a few weeks ago but did not press charges.
She feared for her life.........if only...............
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11-18-2010, 09:09 PM
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Omg.....omg....
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Originally Posted by nursebeeme
trust me... this guy is a monster to go into the future monster text books of the world....
-Sheriff says he is still in a suicide gown (presser)
-shared info on exactly where to find the bodies
death penalty deal?
~thoughts??????
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Definitely think MH is going to be studied closely in the future. To me, he obviously has several traits of a serial killer and, I believe if he had somehow managed to escape getting caught for these murders.....he would have killed again. I wonder if he was a bed wetter?
I hope if they worked out a death penalty deal with him it included him also pleading guilty to avoid the expense of a trial and save the families even more heartache.
I wish they'd take him out of the suicide gown.
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broke up recently with girlfriend...............would love to hear more about him from her......
she is so lucky to get away from him!
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I've wondered if that might have been one of the triggers; this woman also had a young son, close in age to Kody (?). Perhaps his rage was re-directed to this family and might be the reason he spared Sarah? (as she didn't fit the model of previous relationship) Just a thought....
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Actually though if he is a survivalist type, he would know that leaves smolder and make tons of smoke, however most don't burn that fast. However dried pine needles, now that is the most awesome of tinder, I spend alot of time camping and out in the woods. If he was looking for an excelerant, just don't see him using bagged leaves.
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11-18-2010, 09:11 PM
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Another screen shot of MH signing in at the gym. Wonder if he has a smirk like that on his face now. It's even creepier looking at his pictures now knowing what he did.
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how did he afford a house and a gym membership?
X con and no job?
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Someone heard a rumor that Sarah heard him in the bathroom with a saw
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It was posted on topix she was tied up in another room, but heard the bath tub filling and draining several times. 
I didn't hear the saw thing
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11-18-2010, 09:11 PM
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Picture of a hollow tree - just for reference of what one can look like.
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In some strange way this case reminds me of the Groene case. The people in the home were overtaken by one sick **** and the children taken with Shasta being the lone survivor. Again the perp should never been let out of prison and was a murdering time bomb waiting to happen.
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Thank you on behalf of Tanner.
Maybe one of our local WS members can ask on the FB page about Tanner, if we don't get any report via MSM or LE in the next week or so.
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I was surprised that none of the reporters asked that question.
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We have used leaves to kick start a smoldering fire before, they burn fast and hot... but not exactly an excellerant. However, he may have put them in the walls for that reason....
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It was posted on topix she was tied up in another room, but heard the bath tub filling and draining several times.
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The rumor, on Mt. Vernon/Topix, has since been removed; that rarely happens on anything-goes Topix, and may indicate that it was accurate information LE does not want out there. It was posted before LE announced discovery of the bodies, and implied dismemberment.
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The rumor, on Mt. Vernon/Topix, has since been removed; that rarely happens on anything-goes Topix, and may indicate that it was accurate information LE does not want out there. It was posted before LE announced discovery of the bodies, and implied dismemberment.
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Ahhh thank you for telling me, sorry for repeating it, I hadn't looked since last night and wasn't aware it had been taken down.
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Originally Posted by nursebeeme
trust me... this guy is a monster to go into the future monster text books of the world....
-Sheriff says he is still in a suicide gown (presser)
-shared info on exactly where to find the bodies
death penalty deal?
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I posted in the previous thread about the death penalty just before Cubby closed it. I PM'd him asking to bring it forward to this one, but it seems to have completely vanished now. If it doesn't reappear soon, I will try to re-post it.
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Did I understand it correctly that he had spent time living/camping in the area of the hollow tree? I am wondering if he held anyone captive out there? We may have more bodies out there.
What clued them in that Sarah was in his house?
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It looks about right according to the live video from the news copter today. There's a path/road that runs from the eastern end of that field north to Yankee Rd. When you look at the street view where the road meets Yankee Rd, it looks the same as the video where the hearses departed.
Thanks for your map, its been so helpful in trying to piece everything together.
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Did I understand it correctly that he had spent time living/camping in the area of the hollow tree? I am wondering if he held anyone captive out there? We may have more bodies out there.
What clued them in that Sarah was in his house?
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Thats one of the many reasons I question if he had a portable generator?
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I was looking at all the missing people from Ohio I found this Asia Wynn Endangered runaway
Missing from: Mount Vernon, Ohio
Missing since: 7/22/2010 | Missing age: 17| Current age: 17
Contact Mount Vernon Police Department at (740) 393-9530.
http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/E...-People?Page=3
Not sure if this is the place to put this ...Please move it Mod if needed..
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