Could EB and accomplices be responsible for death/coverup - without AB's knowledge?

[Allusonz]

No this is not adding up

We have 3 people not involved stating that she was seen on the 25th

We can all pretty much assume that she did not die from being ill

We have EB's cell phone pings being at the dumping places but not the days they did indeed ping from there. Some are saying they switched phones. As yet I have no proof that did happen

We have the possibility that she may of and if i recall that was kinda unproven been sexually abused but do we really have the proof either way? No

What is new maybe to some is that AY and a few other people have come under scrutiny

I as well have to state that I believe nothing that comes from EB's mouth. PERIOD.

So unless we get some verification we cannot go rampant on assumptions MOO

[qtrmlr]

Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes

The problem I have.... I dont believe a word that comes out of EBs mouth.

IMO

but His mouth said I saw/looked in on her that morning...eh tuesday..eh thursday....

[westsidefox64]

How can zahra be seen on the 25th if shes dead on the 24th?

[oceanblueeyes]

Originally Posted by westsidefox64

How can zahra be seen on the 25th if shes dead on the 24th?

That is why I think LE is not buying the boatload of bull that EB is trying to sell. And why she is still locked up and AB is not.

[Etilema]

Originally Posted by westsidefox64

How can zahra be seen on the 25th if shes dead on the 24th?

Could be one or the other (or both) dates are a day or so off. (Either EB remembered it as the 24th when it was actually the 25th or the furniture employees remembered it as the 25th when it was actually the 24th.) Or maybe the store sighting was false/mistaken.

Just speculating.

[tlcya]

yep to what OceanBE posted. So far the only thing she has told them that has been substantiated (that we know of) is that Zahra was dead and where to find remains. I think AB is not in jail because everything else out of her mouth they haven't been able to idenpendantly substantiate. They know where he is, he cannot leave, he is being "protected" (read kept an eye on movements). Once they have what they think they need on his involvement, they will act and not a minute before.

[Reannan]

Originally Posted by westsidefox64

How can zahra be seen on the 25th if shes dead on the 24th?

Someone is either lying or mistaken.

[tlcya]

Perhaps someone is lying because someone recalls that AB was with others at the actual TOD and dismemberment who could easily alibi him at that particular time therefore chose a date close to the actual one where blame for the grisly part COULD be shifted to AB? Just thinking out loud.

What disturbs me is AB's statements about when he last set eyes on Zahra and why they don't jibe up with ANY day in that vicinity?

[Allusonz]

Originally Posted by tlcox

Perhaps someone is lying because someone recalls that AB was with others at the actual TOD and dismemberment who could easily alibi him at that particular time therefore chose a date close to the actual one where blame for the grisly part COULD be shifted to AB? Just thinking out loud.

What disturbs me is AB's statements about when he last set eyes on Zahra and why they don't jibe up with ANY day in that vicinity?

hhhhhhmmmmmm

i have felt for some time that EB has been trying to throw AB under the wheels of a frieght train while trying to avoid both herself/and someone else

when i actually look at the places EB stated that things would be found she actually did not come up with alot, she gave general vacinities, the prosthetic we now know truly was not where most thought it was

i have always wondered about the fact that never was the wednesday mentioned, and in my sleep deprived brain i have come up with this

maybe LE did not want him to reveal the exact date...ducks again

[dar107]

Personally, I do not believe much of what comes out of AB or EB's mouths. Both are lying to cover themselves IMO. If Zarha was not deceased on Sept. 24th, I think it was close to this date. I don't know about the furniture store sighting but maybe the day was mistaken. EB's cell phone pings did put her in the disposal locations on the 25th, and i do not beleive she was out scoping each location 2 weeks before murdering Zahra. Nope I don't buy that. Don't care where Adam's phone was either. Does not mean zilch to me. Did the lady from the furniture store not say that there was another woman with EB and Z? Why have we never heard who this was, this person could confirm if Z was at the furniture store and her state of health, if she was ill. Something smells there IMO.

It gets so confusing remembering exactly when, for 100 percent sure when AB last saw his daughter or spoke to her. Was it Wednesday Oct 6th? Nope I can't swallow that either. In my heart, I don't believe sweet Zahra lived to see October.

[tlcya]

I think it was somewhere in the general vicinity of that date, couple days either way. That is my own feel for it. No link. No quote from LE. Just me thinking someone is either genuinely or calculatedly wrong about the dates. Don't know which date is the red herring and which one matters, but one may be and the other may.

[Etilema]

Originally Posted by tlcox

I think it was somewhere in the general vicinity of that date, couple days either way. That is my own feel for it. No link. No quote from LE. Just me thinking someone is either genuinely or calculatedly wrong about the dates. Don't know which date is the red herring and which one matters, but one may be and the other may.

What you wrote sums up my thoughts and feelings about this issue exactly.

[Clue Hopper]

This thought came into my mind about the ransom note and Tahoe. I wanted to share so I could hear others in put on it. It's just a thought mind you.

The Tahoe had gas doused/poured in it. It had a ransom note on it. It also had blood on the console. It had burn debris and other said evidence. It is the company vehicle that AB drives. Now obviously the Tahoe did not burn. It wasn't even tried to be lit a fire. Yet it's doors were opened and much thought went into it being noticed. So the thought I had was what if this was set up to be investigated and evidence found in it to make AB be a prime suspect? Hoping with the fire and the note LE would also find the burn evidence, blood etc. Maybe this happened so fast that Mr. C was contacted before any kind of closer look at the vehicle took place. No one even thought of the outlandish idea that someone would sneak in and take Z while they were all out there. She didn't come out because she had been sick. When nothing was done with the fire, EB had to come up with the plan she had been taken. Like I said the thought just came to me and I wanted others thoughts on it.

[tehcloser]

As for the reported sighting on the 25th, my mind had a nagging thought about something LE had said later and I tracked it down. During the presser about the landfill search, which was AFTER the furniture store employees had came forward, LE said they were extending the timeline back another month, even though the employees had came forward. My thinking is if they were 100% convinced of the sighting, why extend the timeline?

http://www.wsoctv.com/video/25453585/index.html

[KPMcLovin]

Do we know what the "conformed" sighting on the 22nd was? Is it for sure "confirmed".

[KPMcLovin]

And does anybody else find it a little interesting that this story broke when it did?
http://www.protect.org/tools/newswir...their-children

[Kamille]

Originally Posted by tehcloser

As for the reported sighting on the 25th, my mind had a nagging thought about something LE had said later and I tracked it down. During the presser about the landfill search, which was AFTER the furniture store employees had came forward, LE said they were extending the timeline back another month, even though the employees had came forward. My thinking is if they were 100% convinced of the sighting, why extend the timeline?

http://www.wsoctv.com/video/25453585/index.html

I think at that time they were still questioning both the siting and whether Zahra had ever made the move to the house in Hickory. Her DNA at the house would not necessarily prove she was there if they moved all of her things there.

They seem to be satisfied that she did make the move even though no neighbor can state that they ever saw her there. I think it was the former neighbors who verified that she did in fact leave with them on moving day that helped with that.

MOO

[passionflower]

Originally Posted by KPMcLovin

And does anybody else find it a little interesting that this story broke when it did?
http://www.protect.org/tools/newswir...their-children

very interesting indeed!

BTW, I still think AB knew everthing that was going on in that house and to Zahra.
AB only thought of AB............I give him no slack at all. JMOO

[passionflower]

Originally Posted by Kamille

I think at that time they were still questioning both the siting and whether Zahra had ever made the move to the house in Hickory. Her DNA at the house would not necessarily prove she was there if they moved all of her things there.

They seem to be satisfied that she did make the move even though no neighbor can state that they ever saw her there. I think it was the former neighbors who verified that she did in fact leave with them on moving day that helped with that.

MOO

IMO, she made the move to that house, her blood, bone fragments and flesh was found on walls etc........IIRC

[daisy7]

Originally Posted by WhyaDuck?

People should remember there is an actual thread for whether you think AB was involved. I will bump it to make sure people see it.

I am not sure what the topic of this thread is any more.

Despite many warnings from mods., this thread has turned into a general discussion thread and is now closed.