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Just thinking outloud here. Maybe the guy only gave JE a "down payment" of $500 - $1000 bucks, and got to drive it away. He could have thought they would meet at the DMV on Monday morning to do the paperwork stuff.
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12-13-2010, 05:39 PM
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TS posts on FB 1:30-ish
Walmart purchases at 8:30-ish
AM purchases at 9:30-ish (possibly sold car)
Considering that there were accusations of inappropriate behavior before Friday, the comments made by TS and her family after BS went missing, I'm pretty sure TS was murdered prior to the Walmart trip. TS kept BS from school that friday for whatever reason, I doubt she would have allowed BS to go with JE willingly. What's puzzling is what did they do for those 45 minutes???
If LE knew about this AM video and the selling of the car, the information they gave to the public was very misleading. I understand keeping certain information quiet to preserve certain evidence, but to be misleading when there is a child that is missing...is bothersome.
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12-13-2010, 05:41 PM
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depending on who this person is that bought the car and his relationship to je le may not of wanted to tip their hand to je that they had spoken to the buyer...
eta: which is why they wouldnt confirm where the suv was found...
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12-13-2010, 05:42 PM
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Just thinking outloud here. Maybe the guy only gave JE a "down payment" of $500 - $1000 bucks, and got to drive it away. He could have thought they would meet at the DMV on Monday morning to do the paperwork stuff.
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I agree, that he paid probably about half of what it was worth or less. As I remember CA, all you have to do is sign the title and hand it over....unless things have changed in the last 20 years, which could be! lol
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UPDATED December 13th @ 4:50 p.m.: Photos of items, suspect, missing girl and missing car
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TS posts on FB 1:30-ish
Walmart purchases at 8:30-ish
AM purchases at 9:30-ish (possibly sold car)
Considering that there were accusations of inappropriate behavior before Friday, the comments made by TS and her family after BS went missing, I'm pretty sure TS was murdered prior to the Walmart trip. TS kept BS from school that friday for whatever reason, I doubt she would have allowed BS to go with JE willingly. What's puzzling is what did they do for those 45 minutes???
If LE knew about this AM video and the selling of the car, the information they gave to the public was very misleading. I understand keeping certain information quiet to preserve certain evidence, but to be misleading when there is a child that is missing...is bothersome.
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the new video footage is from 9:20pm...
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http://www2.wsls.com/news/2010/dec/1...avi-ar-712919/
The video, taken at the Salem Apple Market on West Main Street, shows Easley buying gas and a few other items at around 9:20 p.m., roughly 45 minutes after leaving the Salem Walmart, where police say he bought camping gear with Tina Smith's credit card.
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Also, if I am seeing it correctly, JE gets back into that red SUV and backs it away from the pump. Wonder where the switch was made between the buyer and JE and BS got into TS's Neon.
On the 5:30 news cast on WSLS, they did not go into much detail, but did show a very brief interview of this male clerk there at AM who said he recognized JE because he was a "regular" at the AM and he remarked to his boss "Debbie" that the girl did not even have on a coat or long sleeves. "Debbie" then called the police. This is making less sense as I'm typing it. Hope they put this up on their web site so all can see it as I am not doing so good at interpreting it for ya'll.
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I agree, that he paid probably about half of what it was worth or less. As I remember CA, all you have to do is sign the title and hand it over....unless things have changed in the last 20 years, which could be! lol
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Yeah, In the mean time, word of the crime gets out (Mon?), and the buyer goes "OH CARP!", and calls LE....
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12-13-2010, 05:53 PM
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Yeah, but if I remember right TS would have to sign it over. I suppose BS could have signed it with her mom's name - or maybe the buyer thought they would all meet up at the DMV on Mon, or Tues. In the mean time, word of the crime gets out (Mon?), and the buyer goes "OH CARP!", and calls LE....
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The red SUV was supposedly JE's vehicle (I think that was the case).
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12-13-2010, 05:53 PM
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Yeah, but if I remember right TS would have to sign it over. I suppose BS could have signed it with her mom's name - or maybe the buyer thought they would all meet up at the DMV on Mon, or Tues. In the mean time, word of the crime gets out (Mon?), and the buyer goes "OH CARP!", and calls LE....
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The Blazer that was sold belonged to JE, not TS.
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12-13-2010, 05:54 PM
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depending on who this person is that bought the car and his relationship to je le may not of wanted to tip their hand to je that they had spoken to the buyer...
eta: which is why they wouldnt confirm where the suv was found...
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Keeping those tidbits of info out are understandable. The part that I found misleading was the statements regarding them being low on cash and not having the financial means to get very far. No one would suspected that they were in CA, a lot in part because they believed they didn't have much money. Even if he sold the car for $500. That would have been enough money to get them across country.
2 to 3 day head start + transportation (TS Car) + cash money = could be anywhere. All LE had to say was that they could be anywhere....this is a nationwide manhunt and EVERYONE should be on the look out. If it wasn't for Nancy Grace, Good Morning America (which by the time it airs in the morning, most people are at work), or on here, Californians would have had no idea what was going on. Some people still don't. It only made SF news. Major news stations haven't covered it at all.
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12-13-2010, 05:58 PM
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Keeping those tidbits of info out are understandable. The part that I found misleading was the statements regarding them being low on cash and not having the financial means to get very far. No one would suspected that they were in CA, a lot in part because they believed they didn't have much money. Even if he sold the car for $500. That would have been enough money to get them across country.
2 to 3 day head start + transportation (TS Car) + cash money = could be anywhere. All LE had to say was that they could be anywhere....this is a nationwide manhunt and EVERYONE should be on the look out. If it wasn't for Nancy Grace, Good Morning America (which by the time it airs in the morning, most people are at work), or on here, Californians would have had no idea what was going on. Some people still don't. It only made SF news. Major news stations haven't covered it at all.
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i was only speculating on why le may have withheld the buyer info, not whether it was misleading to the public...
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12-13-2010, 06:00 PM
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I agree, clearly LE must have known that they had money, and could be anywhere...yet they contained their alerts to specific areas...wonder why it never occurred to them that they could be much further afield, as they indeed were? They must have had a decent stash, even if they only got $1000 or so for the car...
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I saw that. Loved your reason for changing it. I lol. So cute.
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12-13-2010, 06:03 PM
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i was only speculating on why le may have withheld the buyer info, not whether it was misleading to the public...
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No I completely understood what you were saying.
I was just kind of elaborating on what I thought was misleading. I get frustrated when I see all these cases on here and nothing in the news. I can tell you where all the hot spots are to get christmas sweaters for your dog though...
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12-13-2010, 06:07 PM
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well, they had barely enough to make it to sf and then they were caught panhandling and living in a tent... idk, i dont think le has released enough info yet to make heads or tails out of it...
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HLN covering it now.
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Well, I'll attempt to tell you some more of what I heard/saw on the 6 p.m. newcast on WSLS now.
Mostly the same information about Easley selling the SUV, but, Scott Leiman (the reporter) actually says this guy who bought the SUV left his "purple Dodge Stratus" abandoned somewhere. They show it being towed on a video while Scott Leiman is reporting and he said "apparently LE was so interested in this car that they had it towed". Then they show Scott Leiman knocking on the door of what looks like a duplex apartment and he asked this woman who was at the door "did Easley come here". She says the police told her not to say anything so I'm not saying anything. Then as the story goes off, Scott Leiman says "this is Scott Leiman reporting from Garden City". Well, this is the SE part of Roanoke City. Not really in the downtown area, (about 3 miles from downtown Roanoke).
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Va. Girl Found In Calif. Expected To Fly Home
Posted: 2:56 pm PST December 13, 2010Updated: 2:57 pm PST December 13, 2010
ROANOKE, Va. -- An abducted 12-year-old Virginia girl who was found unharmed last week in San Francisco is heading home. Roanoke County spokeswoman Teresa Hamilton Hall says Brittany Mae Smith and two police escorts are expected back late Monday night. <snip>
Easley is expected to have his extradition hearing Tuesday morning in San Francisco. More at link: http://www.ktvu.com/news/26121898/detail.html
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I agree, clearly LE must have known that they had money, and could be anywhere...yet they contained their alerts to specific areas...wonder why it never occurred to them that they could be much further afield, as they indeed were? They must have had a decent stash, even if they only got $1000 or so for the car...
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I'm wondering if JE told the guy that bought his vehicle that he was heading to Florida on a family emergency (sick relative, to meet BS's mom, etc), the reason he sold the vehicle for so little to make a quick sell.
That might be the reason the Amber alerts stayed in certain areas.
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Also, if I am seeing it correctly, JE gets back into that red SUV and backs it away from the pump. Wonder where the switch was made between the buyer and JE and BS got into TS's Neon.
On the 5:30 news cast on WSLS, they did not go into much detail, but did show a very brief interview of this male clerk there at AM who said he recognized JE because he was a "regular" at the AM and he remarked to his boss "Debbie" that the girl did not even have on a coat or long sleeves. "Debbie" then called the police. This is making less sense as I'm typing it. Hope they put this up on their web site so all can see it as I am not doing so good at interpreting it for ya'll.
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bbm... was it warm enough during the afternoon not to have to wear coats or long sleeves?
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im wondering who the buyer of the suv is, if he is an acquaintance of je and possibly had info but if le put it out in the media then je would know that his friend blabbed and further complicate the situation??
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