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Old 12-14-2010, 04:05 AM
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13 Dec 2010 - New Audio Shows Elizabeth Johnson's Viciousness

New Audio Shows Elizabeth Johnson's Viciousness


But in a phone conversation obtained by CBS5 News, Johnson says what we had only seen in a text message. She was on the run at the time, last December in Texas. And in spiteful detail, she explains to the boy's father, Logan McQueary, what she did to her boy."Where are you and where is Gabriel?" asks McQueary. "Gabriel is in a dumpster," Johnson responds. "No he's not," said McQueary. "You want to talk to girls, that's the price you pay," said Johnson.

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I don't see the actual audio online yet. Just the transcript.
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New Audio Shows Elizabeth Johnson's Viciousness


But in a phone conversation obtained by CBS5 News, Johnson says what we had only seen in a text message. She was on the run at the time, last December in Texas. And in spiteful detail, she explains to the boy's father, Logan McQueary, what she did to her boy."Where are you and where is Gabriel?" asks McQueary. "Gabriel is in a dumpster," Johnson responds. "No he's not," said McQueary. "You want to talk to girls, that's the price you pay," said Johnson.

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http://www.kpho.com/news/26124485/detail.html


I don't see the actual audio online yet. Just the transcript.
Sadly, after seeing this I believe she did what she said.
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Old 12-14-2010, 02:17 PM
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The audio is up on a video at the same link above.
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Old 12-14-2010, 02:28 PM
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That is so horribly hard to listen to.

God bless precious little Gabe.
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Old 12-14-2010, 02:35 PM
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I don't believe her, I do not believe baby Gabe is dead, I believe she gave him away as she said...... moo
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Old 12-14-2010, 03:29 PM
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I don't believe her, I do not believe baby Gabe is dead, I believe she gave him away as she said...... moo
The problem is, she is a liar. Is she lying when she says she gave him away or is she lying when she says she killed him? Only she really knows, maybe not at this point depending on how mentally ill she is.
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I don't know that EJ hasn't told LE everything. I don't know that she wasn't just pissed at Logan and possibly had been drinking and spewed words about that she should not have.. She had some type of conversation via e-mail or phone that day with several individuals...and not each conversation was the same. There is no evidence that Master Gabe is not with someone and there is no evidence that he is. If EJ wanted to get rid of Master Gabe, someone explain to my why in the world would she travel to San Antonio for 6 days to do it...makes no sense to me.....I'm still of the mind set until proof otherwise, he is with a family...orchestrated by TPS and JS.
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What we need is Veritaserum. A big ol' bottle for her and Skelton and TH so they spill where the babies are!

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IF she did do the unthinkable I think TS helped her get to SA in an attempt to force Logan to sign the adoption papers in order to get EJ to come back with Gabriel. He wouldn't give up his rights to his son. TS's plan didn't work and EJ was full of hate for Logan and hurt Gabriel out of rage-not a planned event or it would of happened in AZ. That recording was disgusting and made me feel ill just listening to it. It sounds like she was so jealous of Gabriel and Logan's love for him. I don't know what to believe at this point. I'm really hoping and praying that he is still alive but I just don't know what this sick woman is capable of.
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I keep going back to the conversation EJ had with TPS stating the couple she left Master Gabe with were friends of TPS.( the couple could have been the friends of the friend of TPS and JS). TPS says she has no friends in SA...and low and behold, she has a brain fart, and by golly she and JS have a very good friend that lives there. So how would EJ know that, and why would TPS lie about it ??? I'm getting o/t...I apologize...I'll hush!
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Old 12-14-2010, 05:45 PM
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I don't believe her, I do not believe baby Gabe is dead, I believe she gave him away as she said...... moo
None of us want to believe he is gone, Mystic...... but the very sad reality is that he is most likely dead.

I just hope they find something to convict her of 1st degree murder
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I don't believe her, I do not believe baby Gabe is dead, I believe she gave him away as she said...... moo
I feel the same way and I also feel that TS help set that up.
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Elizabeth's grandfather, Bob Johnson, said Elizabeth recanted the statements she made to McQueary almost immediately. He said McQueary must have given the recording to a Phoenix television station, KPHO-TV, which aired it Monday. McQueary could not be reached for comment.

"This isn't doing Elizabeth any good at all," Johnson said. "Logan is the only one who has access to it (the tape) outside of the police."

Maricopa County Superior Court records state that McQueary came to the Tempe Police Department on Dec. 27 to report that he had received text messages in which Johnson typed that she killed Gabriel. McQueary also recorded the phone call from Johnson and turned it over to Tempe police.

A Tempe police sergeant phoned Johnson in Texas and told her to contact Texas authorities to confirm that Gabriel was alive. She refused to do so, according to the records.

What it all proves, Bob Johnson said, is that Elizabeth was furious at Logan for cheating on her. It does not prove she killed her son, he said.

Well, with a girl like EJ can you blame Logan for cheating? I know it's not right, but Look at what the poor man had to deal with and STILL has to deal with.
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I'd be highly suspect if Logan gave this info...What purpose would it serve Logan now...he could have turned this in a year ago if he wanted and believed in it...but he did not...he did not believe in it then and does not believe in it now...and nor do I...Now LE is a different story......did they turn it in..I'd bet my Gator on it.....but why now..because they have nothing??? And they are up against the clock...the big clock...trying in some way to ward off a dismissal of this case, because of their, screw up if you will...and when I say LE...I mean AZ and TX LE...

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Old 12-15-2010, 01:19 AM
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I believe she did it because of the detail she gave. She says she suffocated him and he turned blue and she put him in the diaper bag and then in the dumpster.

for me that's a bit too much detail to not be true ...

and with all my heart & soul, I hope I'm wrong

either way, she's evil

& if Gabe is somewhere safe, then TPS is even more evil for allowing this to go on and on knowing how much Logan is suffering
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She sounds like Casey Anthony! In sound and in phrases. All you worry about is Gabriel, not me.

You made me kill my baby.

You talk to girls.

You can go find another girl and make another baby.

You made my life miserable.

Your fault, your fault, your fault...


She couldn't get an apartment because of Gabriel. She tells him he was taking Gabriel from her. Then she says Logan made her kill the baby. She's selfish, she puts blame on Gabriel instead of straightening out her life, it's all about what happens to her. Gabriel wasn't the center of her world, SHE is. Selfish, jealous, frustrated with herself. Not a good combination for a small child who can't defend himself.

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She sounds like Casey Anthony! In sound and in phrases. All you worry about is Gabriel, not me.

You made me kill my baby.

You talk to girls.

You can go find another girl and make another baby.

You made my life miserable.

Your fault, your fault, your fault...


She couldn't get an apartment because of Gabriel. She tells him he was taking Gabriel from her. Then she says Logan made her kill the baby. She's selfish, she puts blame on Gabriel instead of straightening out her life, it's all about what happens to her. Gabriel wasn't the center of her world, SHE is. Selfish, jealous, frustrated with herself. Not a good combination for a small child who can't defend himself.

Elizabeth is far worse than Casey Anthony, in my view. She's very open with her hatred, viciousness, and lack of conscience. Casey tries to hide it, and it slips out. Elizabeth doesn't even try to hide it. She puts it right out there. She also is much more manipulative and devious than Casey IMO. Hard to conceive of lol because Casey is so manipulative and devious, but I do think Elizabeth has a stronger intellect, and has sort of refined the 'art'.
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I'd be highly suspect if Logan gave this info...What purpose would it serve Logan now...he could have turned this in a year ago if he wanted and believed in it...but he did not...he did not believe in it then and does not believe in it now...and nor do I...Now LE is a different story......did they turn it in..I'd bet my Gator on it.....but why now..because they have nothing??? And they are up against the clock...the big clock...trying in some way to ward off a dismissal of this case, because of their, screw up if you will...and when I say LE...I mean AZ and TX LE...
I would be shocked if Logan gave that tape to the press. He has guarded it very carefully.

It is very much to Tammi's benefit for the tape to be public, and I personally suspect someone in her camp of releasing it.

This is my personal opinion.

ETA: And this backs up my suspicions nicely:

"You said you killed him! You said you killed the baby. So you know what America believes? Is that you killed the baby," said Smith.

That quote is from a new article about the phone call with Elizabeth and Tammi. There's a new article, which says the phone call was set up - a sting operation by LE and the DA with which Elizabeth cooperated. I bumped the thread about the phone call, and posted the new article there. Here's the thread:

EJ's phone call to TPS 1/22 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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I wasn't sure what to think about this case until I listened to this tape.

Not only does she sound deadly serious, ITA that her words and even her voice sound eerily like Casey Anthony.

So disturbing. Now I really think that poor Gabriel will never be found. His final resting place is some disgusting landfill.

I really hope they can use this to put her in prison forever. She shouldn't ever be let out to harm another child or terrorize another family again.
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I wasn't sure what to think about this case until I listened to this tape.

Not only does she sound deadly serious, ITA that her words and even her voice sound eerily like Casey Anthony.

So disturbing. Now I really think that poor Gabriel will never be found. His final resting place is some disgusting landfill.

I really hope they can use this to put her in prison forever. She shouldn't ever be let out to harm another child or terrorize another family again.
Better yet give her the needle
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She sounds like Casey Anthony! In sound and in phrases. All you worry about is Gabriel, not me.

You made me kill my baby.

You talk to girls.

You can go find another girl and make another baby.

You made my life miserable.

Your fault, your fault, your fault...


She couldn't get an apartment because of Gabriel. She tells him he was taking Gabriel from her. Then she says Logan made her kill the baby. She's selfish, she puts blame on Gabriel instead of straightening out her life, it's all about what happens to her. Gabriel wasn't the center of her world, SHE is. Selfish, jealous, frustrated with herself. Not a good combination for a small child who can't defend himself.

BBM And with those character traits, I don't think for a minute she would allow herself to stay in prison so that Gabriel could "have a better life". The mother/martyr might exist, but NOT in Elizibeth Johnson. Gabriel was only a tool and means to an end EVER for her. I believe EJ does not have the capacity to care for ANYONE but herself.

I also believe that she used Tammi Peters Smith, calling her to take Gabriel as a method of punishing Logan, then immediately calling the police to report that Logan had kidnapped Gabriel. Do any of us think that is the action of a mother trying to make a better life for her child?

I believe she soaked up the attention from the Smiths the way pathological narcissists indiscriminately seek ego-stroking anywhere they can get it. She used them to make her getaway. In the end, when Tammi kept exerting control, EJ wasn't ABOUT to be controlled by ANYBODY. She used them all, thumbed her nose at them publicly on MySpace, murdered the kid that kept stealing all the attention away from HER and was a nuisance to boot, and took a hike on the bus to Miami to start a new life she thought would be glamorous and fun.

My biggest questions:

1) The drive towards Victoria, was it to throw "the diaper bag" in a distant dumpster?

2) Would Gabriel still be alive today and in the loving care of his father and extended loving family, with Elizabeth getting the true medical/psychiatric help she so much needed IF Tammi Peters Smith had never coached Elizabeth in how to illegally steal a child from his rightful home?

3) Was the meeting of TPS and EJ the PERFECT STORM of deadly mental illness?

4) Can psycho-babbling scripture maintain the brick wall of denial until death do them part?

5) What can be done to help and support the Logans of the world, and their families, that find themselves facing the shocking and traumatic truth about the dangers of mental illness in mothers of young children?


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I believe she did it because of the detail she gave. She says she suffocated him and he turned blue and she put him in the diaper bag and then in the dumpster.

for me that's a bit too much detail to not be true ...

and with all my heart & soul, I hope I'm wrong

either way, she's evil

& if Gabe is somewhere safe, then TPS is even more evil for allowing this to go on and on knowing how much Logan is suffering
AMEN to that!

I've seen several in my life that seem to think that the stronger the brick wall (of denial) is, the more likely it will keep out the eternal flames. We all die, and those brick walls DON'T pass on with us to "protect" us. Just sayin'.
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Audiotape: Gabriel's mom allegedly says she killed baby
Posted on December 15, 2010 at 12:32 PM

According to KPHO, the source of the recording has requested to remain anonymous.

http://www.kens5.com/news/local/Audi...111938979.html
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There is more audio at:
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news...iel-12-17-2010


Elizabeth..."You put out an amber alert on me. I was going to have a felony."

Logan..."What?"

Elizabeth..."I was going to have a felony for kidnapping. That's as good as murder."


So who told Elizabeth that Logan was trying to get LE to issue an amber alert?
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Elizabeth..."I was going to have a felony for kidnapping. That's as good as murder."
That's ridiculous. Parental kidnappers rarely get jail time at all, unless they've committed some other crime.
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