TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #5

[Velouria]

Originally Posted by MCDRAW

I wondered why the GF couldn't remember if Hailey came by on the 27th

MCDRAW, I can understand the GF possibly being confused about exact dates when 1) Hailey regularly dropped by one or more times a day, and 2) as a new mom, she may not be getting much sleep, hence the days sometimes run together.

[ThoughtFox]

Originally Posted by czgtz

I totally agree. What in the world could cause people to fail? Stress? Grief?

If several people failed on the same questions, and they were closely connected before the girl went missing, then it's more likely a conspiracy to hide a body. That's the real point of that statement.

[TGIRecovered]

Originally Posted by oviedo

In a strong city-manager form of government, he is the top official - police and fire chiefs would report to him, etc. He probably feels it is his responsibility.

Yes, that is my understanding. The City Manager is "The Boss". CM would answer to city council. If communicating with the public and handling news media is not the Chief's cup of tea it makes sense to have a different spokesperson. Most larger departments have a public relations officer, just to spare administration from having to handle every media request themselves. Like I said before- delegate to the person who is best for the task at hand!

At least communication is better now than it was last week! Progress!

[fhc]

Originally Posted by belimom

Very possible. If we listen to what Billie is saying... she says that is what LE "told" her...

ITA, LE have used the divide & conquer approach to find the truth, if anyone associated with the case actually knows the truth.

[StrayKat]

Maybe, they need more experienced test givers.

[MCDRAW]

Originally Posted by amysmom

Many of us have been wondering about this too! I can't think of one good reason/excuse for it..I don't buy she's too tired from caring for her newborn..Most all of us have been there, done that, & haven't lost our brains.

eta..Our minds maybe but that's not exactly the same thing

I had a baby that didn't sleep for 18 months and three other small children running around, I know tired. But I would know when someone stopped by. No one is talking about it but to me that is a red flag. How do we know that she didn't make it there? Not accusing, just wondering

[Beyond Belief]

I am wondering if they are all stumbling on the same question.

[nursebeeme]

UPDATE 12:00 PM

Colorado City, Texas -

The Texas Department of Criminal Justice search guards and dogs did a "grid search" overnight, even scouring the riverbeds.

Colorado City officials confirm Texas Rangers have heard that Hailey’s mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, has skipped town. It has not been confirmed by officials that he has skipped polygraph testing.

Adkins has not been named a suspect and authorities have not been able to corroborate this account.

City officials confirm they are sending the DPS helicopter to continue searching the area.

Yesterday, authorities were focusing their search on the home of Hailey Dunn and a shed just behind it.

Several officials were seen carrying out bags of what appear to be evidence.

Meanwhile, city officials say foul play is now a possibility.

http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=23234

[belimom]

Originally Posted by nursebeeme

Hailey Dunn's mother says a handful of people connected to her family were told by authorities that they failed polygraph tests that have been administered over the last few days.
Billie Dunn wasn't prepared to name names. However, she told KTAB's Priscilla Luong she and her family's frustration is beginning to mount.

According to Billie Dunn, her boyfriend Shawn Adkins did take a polygraph test. After the test, he did not return to the home he shares with Billie Dunn.

Sources tell KTAB News he is not in custody and authorities are aware of his whereabouts.http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456

Just bumping this for the original quote about what Billie said...

[cluciano63]

Originally Posted by StrayKat

Maybe, they need more experienced test givers.

If the Texas Rangers are taking over, they should be plenty experienced. I would hope that they are.

I do NOT get the dad's girlfriend not remembering what happened the day before. I feel sure she was asked on Tuesday if she had seen H on Monday. How can she not know if she saw her? I am not feeling that she is guilty, but it makes no sense at all. Days run together if you are questioned weeks later. She must have been asked almost as soon as it was said that H was heading over there.

[peeples]

Originally Posted by MCDRAW

I had a baby that didn't sleep for 18 months and three other small children running around, I know tired. But I would know when someone stopped by. No one is talking about it but to me that is a red flag. How do we know that she didn't make it there? Not accusing, just wondering

I'm with you MCDRAW.

I had a 20 month old and newborn preemie twins on monitors and oxygen that kept sending off alarms every 20 minutes, plus sleeping and eating on opposite shifts and i can remember being so tired i hallucinated and it wasn't safe to drive, but I could have told you who was coming and going from my home (no one because i had no help LOL)

[MCDRAW]

Originally Posted by Velouria

MCDRAW, I can understand the GF possibly being confused about exact dates when 1) Hailey regularly dropped by one or more times a day, and 2) as a new mom, she may not be getting much sleep, hence the days sometimes run together.

one of my son's friends regularly drops by, It may take me a minute but I can tell you what days he was here. Hopefully since she has thought about it now, she can remember

[ThoughtFox]

Originally Posted by fhc

ITA, LE have used the divide & conquer approach to find the truth, if anyone associated with the case actually knows the truth.

Yes, I agree. They split them up and asked them the same questions to see who would trip up or give conflicting accounts. Smart thing to do.

[cluciano63]

I do hope LE will clear anyone they can, and say so. In small towns, rumors spread fast and stick. But it may be hard to do so, until she is found.

[Bluesky#1]

Originally Posted by amysmom

They said she was..Sorry I can't find the link to the video.

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=13779246

Link to the video where Hailey's friend states Hailey said she feared SA.

[Beyond Belief]

So did SA really skip town? If so, this is ridiculous.

[tabacue]

I'm not sure what to make of this situation. Looking at this logically, I see someone who had a big blow up at work and lost their job (quit or fired). The combination of those two things = a stressful event. Stressful events can cause people to behave in tragic atypical ways.

I have a 12 year old and if something ever happened I would never want to believe that my boyfriend could be responsible. Having a child missing would inhibit logical thinking (at least my own). I would probably be grasping at straws to find ways the people closest to me were innocent because it would be very hard to accept (actually hard isn't the word....inconceivable).

Lastly, I have looked at the open FB page and think some of the comments were odd. Maybe they were all song lyrics, but odd just the same. Not completely convinced that something might have been going on that family wasn't aware of.

I googled Rx that impact LDT and thought this may be of interest:

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5766423_dr...ctor-test.html

Snipped from link:

Blood pressure medications affect lie detector tests more than any other drug.

Benzodiazepines, sedatives used to treat anxiety, are oftentimes taken in an effort to "beat" a lie detector test.
Of course, we all know people take sedatives for reasons other that defeating a lie detector

All JMO...

[ThoughtFox]

Originally Posted by cluciano63

I do hope LE will clear anyone they can, and say so. In small towns, rumors spread fast and stick. But it may be hard to do so, until she is found.

They can't really think about the well-being of the town right now. That's hardly of importance when a young girl could be in dire straits because people are lying.

And it's much better for the town to get rid of a "handful" of liars than to keep it all nice and below the surface. They can't ignore conflicting statements or a possible cover-up.

[MCDRAW]

Originally Posted by Beyond Belief

So did SA really skip town? If so, this is ridiculous.

CBS7News CBS 7



The Texas Rangers are not denying that the boyfriend of Hailey's mother left town Wednesday night. #HaileyDunn

32 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

I read some where, can't remember where, that he went to his Mom's

[passionflower]

I wonder how close SA and dad's GF are.............

[impatientredhead]

Originally Posted by nursebeeme

Rumors that Billie Dunn's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, has disappeared are unfounded according to family friends.

Reports were circulated that Adkins fled during a polygraph test Wednesday.

"He is not missing," said Peggy, a family friend, who asked not to use her last name. "Family friends have said he is in Big Spring at his mother's."


another snip~~~

That there were a number of failed polygraphs was, however, confirmed by a family friend, now staying at the Dunn residence on 1804 Chestnut.

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/...iend-unfounded

I think it is very poorly worded but means several tests were not(failed to be) taken.

Either that or they need a new test giver brought it asap.

[nursebeeme]

Originally Posted by MCDRAW

CBS7News CBS 7



The Texas Rangers are not denying that the boyfriend of Hailey's mother left town Wednesday night. #HaileyDunn

32 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

I read some where, can't remember where, that he went to his Mom's

"He is not missing," said Peggy, a family friend, who asked not to use her last name. "Family friends have said he is in Big Spring at his mother's."

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/...iend-unfounded


aside: I wonder if skipping town=leaving town to stay at Mother's without telling anyone???? eta: going to his mother's house would technically be "leaving" the town of Colorado City fwiw

[belimom]

Originally Posted by tabacue

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Lastly, I have looked at the open FB page and think some of the comments were odd. Maybe they were all song lyrics, but odd just the same. Snipped:...(snipped)...

Tabacue... you may want to check here before quoting from social network sites:

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[kantoo]

Shawn Adkins parents live in Big Spring, Tx approximately 40 miles away.

[cluciano63]

Well, I have to go to a doctor's appointment, am really hoping for news or a PC when I get back...