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Old 01-24-2011, 07:14 AM
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I hope Beth will be found today. Two weeks to cover trace of any potential crime committed is not good
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:38 AM
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Found this article just now- supposed sighting on Jan 17th at a Dollar Store
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http://everythinglubbock.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=69736

Also mentions the searching

( why does dolar store come up so often in these missing cases?? Or is it just me?)
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:46 AM
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Oh my- police report indicates Video of EE being forced into room, etc-

\http://www.examiner.com/missing-pers...ainst-her-will


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The City of Lubbock Online Crime Reports filed by the Lubbock Police, Case No. 11-0003728 reads:

Humberto Salinas Jr. is not a relative of Elizabeth Ennen.

Humberto Salinas Jr. does not have custody or care of Elizabeth Ennen.

Humberto Salinas Jr. forces Elizabeth Ennen into room 113 at the Carriage House against her will.

Humbeto Salinas Jr. is then seen chasing Elizabeth Ennen into a corner.

He then escorts her out into the parking lot by force. He has his hand around her arm leading her.

This video depicts that Elizabeth Ennen was afraid of Humberto Salinas Jr.

Humberto Salinas Jr. knowingly abducted Elizabeth Ennen. Elizabeth Ennen has not been seen nor had contact with anyone since Humberto Salinas escorted her to the parking lot.


Continue reading on Examiner.com: Video reveals missing Texas teen was forced into motel room against her will - National missing persons | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/missing-pers...#ixzz1By5hv3cx
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:49 AM
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Surveillance captures Lubbock teen's abduction on video

http://lubbockonline.com/filed-onlin...bduction-video

A surveillance video from the last night 15-year-old Elizabeth Ennen was seen alive shows her boyfriend’s father chasing her and then physically forcing her into the parking lot at the Carriage House, court documents released this morning reveal.
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:54 AM
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another MSM article just out this a.m.- regarding EE

http://lubbockonline.com/filed-onlin...bduction-video
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:57 AM
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Some reports have added terrorizing along with kidnapping charges. I'd like to know what that involves. Searching fields and lakes doesn't sound good. There's not that many water areas around here. Most are just the playa lakes at parks, but lots of field areas around the edges of town. I doubt if he'd went all the way out to Canyon lakes or Buffalo Lake.

Oh, and the cop arrested for molesting adopted daughters:
I also read locally that he was a big Christian churchgoer, a former scout master, real estate agent, and married to a teacher. He must have confessed right off the bat or the wife got more evidence other than just busting in on him in the act, because he was arrested right away.

Maybe terrorizing her is anout jhim chasing her all over the hotel parking lot & such.
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:58 AM
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This is horrifying...I wonder what time she was taken out of the motel and if it was on the same night...I hate to think it was later on after her mom had reported her missing...

OK, that last article says she was last seen around midnight on Jan. 5th-do they mean the last sighting was on the video, as in that was when she was taken from motel by force? This is just so scary...her poor mom...and poor Elizabeth. Her mom was close friends with this man?
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:08 AM
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I read in one article that VE (EE mother) last talked to her at/around 8 pm Jan 4, evening she went to 'babysit'.

And when the purse was returned to the home, it was wee hours of Jan 5th- so I guess that is the date EE marked missing once VE called LE.

I have not seen anything yet to verify EE was actually babysitting...although HMS 'may' have young children. So IMO why she was at the motel is officially know.

She was taken out of the motel ALIVE.
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:13 AM
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So it sounds as though when they brought the purse back...they had already taken Elizabeth from the motel and either hidden her away or worse...?
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:16 AM
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I'm not understanding why they took her purse back to her house? Why do that? Why alert her mother?
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:20 AM
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Yep, whomever brought that purse to the home after acting like EE had already been dropped off was sure trying to distance from her disappearance.

Gosh this is awful.

FWIW-here is the FB page for Find EE-
http://www.facebook.com/#!/find.elizabeth.ennen

HMS IS the father of the 19 yo BF
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:24 AM
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I'm not understanding why they took her purse back to her house? Why do that? Why alert her mother?
Maybe the person who took the purse back didn't know that HS had kidnapped her -- found the purse in the room or the car and believed EE had forgotten it.

Or because that way it puts her disappearance in an entirely different place and time -- if she was at her mom's house, then HS and his family can't have anything to do with it. Stranger abduction and all that. If it took LE this long to look at the motel surveillance videos, I'm inclined to think it almost worked.
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:25 AM
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I think they brought the purse back to make it seem as though they had dropped her off without incident...the purse was kind of an "alibi".
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:29 AM
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I'm not sure if this has been discussed and/or answered yet, but was her boyfriend there too and dad's common-law wife? A few minutes ago, I read that they had arrested her too - on unrelated charges. She can't make bail, so she's still in jail. She also apparently had charges in the past for either child neglect or child endangerment or something like that...
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Maybe the person who took the purse back didn't know that HS had kidnapped her -- found the purse in the room or the car and believed EE had forgotten it.

Or because that way it puts her disappearance in an entirely different place and time -- if she was at her mom's house, then HS and his family can't have anything to do with it. Stranger abduction and all that. If it took LE this long to look at the motel surveillance videos, I'm inclined to think it almost worked.


The guy that was arrested and actually was shown throwing her into the car is the same guy that was "supposed" to have dropped her off at her house. He then went to the house saying that he was bring her purse to her. He even HELPED the family call the police to report her disappearance!
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:51 AM
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Here's a mug shot of dad's common-law wife

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...73465519362145
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The guy that was arrested and actually was shown throwing her into the car is the same guy that was "supposed" to have dropped her off at her house. He then went to the house saying that he was bring her purse to her. He even HELPED the family call the police to report her disappearance!
If that's what happened, then definitely trying to make an alibi. I thought maybe the mother girlfriend got home and found the purse where it had been overlooked...
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:57 AM
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HSM was arrested on Sat Jan 22nd, here is link to public info sheet-
https://apps.co.lubbock.tx.us/jailrosters/viewbs.aspx

The common law wife , same day, different commitment time.
And the son that day also. But he got out.
And IF I recall correctly, all 3 gave the motel as their address.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:18 PM
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What I am curious to know, is which came first...the friendship between HSM and VE...or the BF/GF thing with EE and his son HLS?

What made HSM, et al, 'close' friends of the family ? (per http://everythinglubbock.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=69386)

Color me pessimist, but I am doubting the baby sitting story
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:19 PM
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Nancy is featuring Elizabeth on her FB page.
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1. Where is Elizabeth?

2. Where is Hailey?

3. Are the two disappearances connected?

4. If JR had nothing to do with her disappearance, then I am sure he can enlighten everyone with the story of why he was chasing her.

5. What time was the video taken at? What time was her purse brought back to the house?

That is the timeframe during which something nefarious was done to Elizabeth, IF JR was the one who brought the purse back to her house, otherwise the window of time may be far larger.

WHO brought EE's purse back to her home?

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The warrant states that Salinas then "escorted" her out of the building leading her to the parking lot with his hand around her arm. The documents say video from the Carriage House depicts that "Elizabeth was afraid of Salinas."

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=13895997
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Here is the Arrest Warrant:

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kcbd/...st_Warrant.pdf
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Warrant States that on August 6, 1986, HS JR was convicted of the Felony Offence of Injury to a Child; Case 86-404336.

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kcbd/...st_Warrant.pdf
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The warrant states that Salinas then "escorted" her out of the building leading her to the parking lot with his hand around her arm. The documents say video from the Carriage House depicts that "Elizabeth was afraid of Salinas."

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=13895997
Also from your article linked and BBM:

Elizabeth Ennen has not been seen nor had contact with anyone since Salinas "escorted" her to the parking lot. Elizabeth's mother reported her missing around midnight January 5th after she did not return from a babysitting job. Police first listed her as a runaway. On Saturday, January 22nd, police announced they had found evidence leading them to believe she was kidnapped.

That's 17 days to find the video, identify the suspect and make an arrest.



I wonder if they've looked at more videos at that motel before and after the one night she was known to be there.
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