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Old 07-25-2011, 08:29 PM
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Lightbulb Photo comparison and info-Beverli Darnell

Beverli's info: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...l_beverli.html and here: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1803dffl.html <if you click on the "Family Contact" link, it gives you an email with a Witness protection address, strange! I suppose the family may want to keep their names private, maybe, not so strange!

I looked over Beverli Darnell as a possible, because of her eye color. However, I have to wonder if there isn't a mistake on her eye-color, they appear dark in the photo, but Beverli really resembles ElDorado Jane. It was such a long time before she was reported missing by her mother, could it be that she had trouble recalling? I'm not sure, but I submitted her, the dentals and fingerprints should make for an easy comparison. Also, the picture of Ms. Darnell looks like a school photo, four years before her disappearance, so I took that into consideration as well.
Here's the side by side photos, Ms. Darnell is next to last on the right....
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Beverli's info: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...l_beverli.html and here: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1803dffl.html <if you click on the "Family Contact" link, it gives you an email with a Witness protection address, strange! I suppose the family may want to keep their names private, maybe, not so strange!

I looked over Beverli Darnell as a possible, because of her eye color. However, I have to wonder if there isn't a mistake on her eye-color, they appear dark in the photo, but Beverli really resembles ElDorado Jane. It was such a long time before she was reported missing by her mother, could it be that she had trouble recalling? I'm not sure, but I submitted her, the dentals and fingerprints should make for an easy comparison. Also, the picture of Ms. Darnell looks like a school photo, four years before her disappearance, so I took that into consideration as well.
Here's the side by side photos, Ms. Darnell is next to last on the right....
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I haven't gone back into the original post to check yet, but I seem to recall that "El Dorado Jane" was 5'11'' so I'm wondering about a possible match to Beverli Darnell.

Does anyone know if Beverli's mother is still alive?
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:58 AM
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The carousel club was on northwest hwy in Dallas in the 80s
It is not the Carousel Club. It is the Carousel Motel. This UID gave her address as the Carousel Motel one of the times when she was arrested in Dallas.

There are copies of her police booking slips or whatever they're called in one of the earlier threads.

Don't feel bad though, I also earlier thought it was the Carousel Club in Dallas she was associated with.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:04 AM
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Beverli's info: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...l_beverli.html and here: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1803dffl.html <if you click on the "Family Contact" link, it gives you an email with a Witness protection address, strange! I suppose the family may want to keep their names private, maybe, not so strange!

I looked over Beverli Darnell as a possible, because of her eye color. However, I have to wonder if there isn't a mistake on her eye-color, they appear dark in the photo, but Beverli really resembles ElDorado Jane. It was such a long time before she was reported missing by her mother, could it be that she had trouble recalling? I'm not sure, but I submitted her, the dentals and fingerprints should make for an easy comparison. Also, the picture of Ms. Darnell looks like a school photo, four years before her disappearance, so I took that into consideration as well.
Here's the side by side photos, Ms. Darnell is next to last on the right....
I think Beverly is too short at 5' 6" or 5' 7". El Dorado PD actually lists the Doe as 6 ft. tall on their website. Also, Beverly has very straight hair, and the Doe's looks like it could be naturally curly. Can't say for sure, as there are pics of her with her hair straighter. Texture is definitely different between the two women.

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Old 07-26-2011, 08:35 AM
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The real Cheryl Wick, the name and address that ElDorado Jane used, passed away in June 2009, a tribute to her : http://www.startribune.com/featuredC...tml?page=1&c=y
and her obituary : http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sta...&pid=130513611 and her DOB is there, which means that when Jane used her identity, the true Cheryl was only eight years old at the time!! I suspect that Jane knew them or was related. The Grandmother passed away this year, so I am going to search for missing persons with some of those relatives last names! See where that goes. After twenty years (this month) I'm thinking every avenue should be explored! Here I go.......
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I think Beverly is too short at 5' 6" or 5' 7". El Dorado PD actually lists the Doe as 6 ft. tall on their website. Also, Beverly has very straight hair, and the Doe's looks like it could be naturally curly. Can't say for sure, as there are pics of her with her hair straighter. Texture is definitely different between the two women.
A match that I made with between a guy missing from Ohio and a body found in a river in Ohio had the height off I believe 2 or 3 inches. (but I know 4 or 5 inches is a long shot)

I know my hair texture has changed once I had kids (mine went from poker straight to now being naturally curly..and I hate it) I straighten it every morning.

I just want to know who in the heck she is!!!
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Rochelle Ihm

What about Rochelle Ihm - July 13 1986

DOB: Mar 1, 1966
Sex: Female
Missing Date: Jul 13, 1986
Race: White
Height: 5'3" (160 cm)
Weight: 98 lbs (44 kg)
Hair Color: Blonde
Eye Color: Blue
Missing City: PHOENIX
Missing State : AZ
Missing Country: United States

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/i/ihm_rochelle.html
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:23 PM
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The real Cheryl Wick, the name and address that ElDorado Jane used, passed away in June 2009, a tribute to her : http://www.startribune.com/featuredC...tml?page=1&c=y
and her obituary : http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sta...&pid=130513611 and her DOB is there, which means that when Jane used her identity, the true Cheryl was only eight years old at the time!! I suspect that Jane knew them or was related. The Grandmother passed away this year, so I am going to search for missing persons with some of those relatives last names! See where that goes. After twenty years (this month) I'm thinking every avenue should be explored! Here I go.......
I think this is a good train of thought. It's also possible that El Dorado Doe babysat for the Wick girl at one time.

Not being a criminal, I can't think of how El Dorado Doe may have accessed the personal info of a minor unless she had some connection with that minor. You'd think that the El Dorado PD would have shown Doe's pics to the Wick family, but who knows?
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This Cheryl Wick (what a beautiful girl who was taken too soon!) was born in Rochester, MN - the info on thread #1 says that Cheryl Ann Wick (who Jane got the ID from) was in Little Rock, AR. Did the CW from Rochester have an Arkansas connection? Or did I miss something (as is often the case - seriously, it would be no surprise if I totally mixed something up). It really would be an interesting lead if it works out!
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The real Cheryl Wick, the name and address that ElDorado Jane used, passed away in June 2009, a tribute to her : http://www.startribune.com/featuredC...tml?page=1&c=y
and her obituary : http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sta...&pid=130513611 and her DOB is there, which means that when Jane used her identity, the true Cheryl was only eight years old at the time!! I suspect that Jane knew them or was related. The Grandmother passed away this year, so I am going to search for missing persons with some of those relatives last names! See where that goes. After twenty years (this month) I'm thinking every avenue should be explored! Here I go.......
I think it is a stretch to say that this Cheryl Wick, b 1983, was the inspiration for the alias used around 1990 by a woman approximately 18 y.o. at the time.

I went to a people finder website (not paying a premium for results) and looked for a Cheryl A. Wicks in Minnesota. it is not always clear what the maiden name is, there were a few more that seemed better matches.

there is a C.A.W. age 47 in Minneapolis, another age 46 in Mound, MN, another age 46 in Mankato, and yet another age 40 in Minneapolis.
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I think it is a stretch to say that this Cheryl Wick, b 1983, was the inspiration for the alias used around 1990 by a woman approximately 18 y.o. at the time.

I went to a people finder website (not paying a premium for results) and looked for a Cheryl A. Wicks in Minnesota. it is not always clear what the maiden name is, there were a few more that seemed better matches.

there is a C.A.W. age 47 in Minneapolis, another age 46 in Mound, MN, another age 46 in Mankato, and yet another age 40 in Minneapolis.
Not really a 'stretch' at all, since the Detectives found the contact information with the Minnesota address of this family, the info was given by ElDorado Jane during her arrest for a hotcheck/forgery, the same information was given during an arrest in Texas. This was before the wonderful worldwide web, so I'm with justthinkin, the probability of ElDorado Jane having this information and used it, is that she had close ties to this family, either through babysitting or relatives. Also, the Wicks and their families are large contributers and activists in helping the poor and especially needy children. The excerpt (below quote) came from an article that originally appeared in the August 2008 issue of the Arkansas Free Press. AFP has a website but this article is not there.
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The murder of a white prostitute in an El Dorado motel also turned out to be a stolen identity case. Though her murderer now spends time incarcerated, investigators still wonder who the woman was. Union County Coroner Curtis Butterfield had been working as a deputy coroner a little over a year when the murder occurred in 1991; he won his first election for county coroner six years ago.“We never did find out her true identity,” Butterfield says. “The police had her Social Security number and identification card. It had her parents’ name on it. They called the house to make an ID on it and a 21-year-old answered the phone. They asked to speak with the parents:

“‘Might I ask what you’re calling for?’ she asked. They told her they were looking for this lady.

“‘You’re talking to the one you’re trying to say is dead,’ she said.”
Butterfield traced the unidentified female from southeast Arkansas to Shreveport, Little Rock, Florida and a little town outside Dallas, where she had been living with friends. But the leads dried up. After the body sat at the crime lab for an extended period, the county had to cremate it.
This was posted here: http://z10.invisionfree.com/usedtobe...howtopic=16703

Another piece of the puzzle, Anthony Dewey Boyd (Boyd Studio) was convicted in 1993, an RSO listed on Family Watchdog and Homefacts, of Offense/Statute: TX:36010001 INDECENCY W/CHILD SEXUAL CONTACT Disposition Date: 11 December 1997 His photo is on both as well.
http://www.homefacts.com/offender-de...ewey-Boyd.html
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if they called the home in 1991 and a 21 y.o. answered the phone then that Cheryl Wicks was born about 1970, which would make her about 41 now. she would not have been the same person born in 1983.
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What about Rochelle Ihm - July 13 1986

DOB: Mar 1, 1966
Sex: Female
Missing Date: Jul 13, 1986
Race: White
Height: 5'3" (160 cm)
Weight: 98 lbs (44 kg)
Hair Color: Blonde
Eye Color: Blue
Missing City: PHOENIX
Missing State : AZ
Missing Country: United States

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/i/ihm_rochelle.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/3875/810
I really don't think that Rochelle Ihm is the woman found at the Whitehall Motel; she is physically a lot smaller than the unidentified woman.
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Here is a link to her murderer's (James McAlphin) current inmate information. He is back in prison after being released in 2010. In addition to the "BGD" tattoo he also has the names "Elvira" and "James" tattooed on his chest.

http://adc.arkansas.gov/inmate_info/...of+corrections
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Here is a link to her murderer's (James McAlphin) current inmate information. He is back in prison after being released in 2010. In addition to the "BGD" tattoo he also has the names "Elvira" and "James" tattooed on his chest.

http://adc.arkansas.gov/inmate_info/...of+corrections
Was it ever determined why he killed her?
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Was it ever determined why he killed her?
I remember reading she went to the hospital multiple times before from being beaten. I'm not sure a motive was ever determined but based on the perps rap sheet I'd say he was just a naturally violent person.
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This website has a lot of good information as well as some timelines.

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Hey Everyone! I received an email today from LASD (Diane M. Harris)Missing Persons Unit, letting us know that DNA is being processed at this time between Jane and Ms. Kahler!!
I really felt strongly about Kimberly Kahler. Any word on the comparison yet?

I also watched the video again today and thought I'd transcribe her journal here along with some other information. In looking at her Dallas court documents I was surprised to see an associated name she gave them of Cathrine Marie with a DOB of 1/31/1970. Probably another made up name but one I hadn't heard before.

Here are the notes. Please feel free to fill in any blanks.

HER JOURNAL:
Unknown:
…book. Well I’m going to sleep in the bed tonight. I wish he would talk to me. Maybe I’ll say something to him tonight. Well goodnight.

August 16, 1990
Oh Thank God: He finally talked to me this morning. I don’t believe it. He said he was sorry and didn’t mean those things he said to me. I’m so in love with him. I’m glad we are going to work things out. We had a good time this morning. Hee.Hee…Hee…

August 17, 1990
I thought we would leave today but no such luck! Gail came home today. She didn’t seem very happy to see us still here. Tyrone gave her $100.00 dollars. He can’t get that stupid VW to work. So he doesn’t no what to do. I just want to get to Texas and to work. Gail is leaving tomorrow for Fresno, her grandma had a heart attack. Well I’m going to sleep so night night.


Menus:
Phillius Waterside Lounge, Unknown
Raven Restaurant, Virginia Beach
Worrell Brothers, Virginia Beach

Business Card:
Boyd Sound Studio
Anthony D. Boyd
Wylie, Texas

Known locations/arrests:

1990 Dec 19
-arrested for prostitution in Dallas
-served 13 days in jail (was given 20 days good time)
-gave address as 4300, HARRY HINES blvd, APT 27, Dallas, TX
(The La Casita Motel- until it was torn down only recently, it was a well-known destination for prostitutes)

1991 Feb 4
-arrested for public lewdness
-gave associated name Cathrine Marie w/ DOB 1/31/1970
-gave address as 3211, Forest Lane, #66, Garland, TX
(prev. The Carousel Motel / Carousel Motor Inn)

May 1991
-arrested for hot checks
-Arkansas (El Dorado?)

July 10 1991
Murdered - Whitehall Motel
El Dorado Arkansas
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They are part of the items law enforcement found with her personal effects. See the video here which shows images of them as well as the restaurant menus.

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I was reading over some of the past information in this case, and a couple of things stuck out at me that I didn't notice before. I may be wrong, but I just want to put it out there.

First, in one of the pieces that I came across, it stated that this Jane Doe worked at the Carousel in Dallas as a prostitute. Well, the only Carousel I remember in Dallas, is the one that Jack Ruby owned. Well that club closed in the 1960's. The Carousel Club was also a strip club, and not a prostitution ring. I cannot find any other mention of a different place by the same name in my searches. Granted, I have not looked into Dallas County Business records yet, but I still found it odd, as there is no way this Jane Doe could have been old enough at the time to work there.

Second, I know I saw somewhere that she worked at a strip club in Wylie. I could be wrong, it may have just said a bar. However, this is still extremely weird, because in the 80's and 90's Wylie was a tiny little town in Collin County. I live right down the road and it is a fact that there are no (nor have been) ANY strip clubs in Wylie. Due to the extremely strict liquor licensing in this county, it is extremely hard to open a bar, especially in the smaller towns.

I am wondering why these two statements were made, and curious as to how factual they are. If they aren't factual, why hasn't this been investigated further. Also, I did find a Carousel Club in Austin that has dancers. Maybe it was an assumption that she was in Dallas due to the Carousel reference and the infamous reputation of Jack Ruby, when actually the Carousel was somewhere else entirely.

I would love to hear thoughts on this. This is one of the first cases I found on this site, and it really bothers me. Thanks!!!
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Gail is leaving tomorrow for Fresno, her grandma had a heart attack.

It may be a bit grim of me to suggest this, but given that people die from heart attacks and in the weeks after heart attacks, even more so in 1991 than today, there is a chance that a funeral or death notice was published around this timeframe that may have included the fact that the deceased was a grandmother to Gail. However, I have no idea how difficult the searches for such info would be.
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Forget my last post: Didn't see all of the great info that Texaslil posted. *apologies*
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Am I the only one that thinks she was in her mid 30's in 1991??
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