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Old 01-25-2011, 01:03 AM
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Theres evidence there someplace.
They have a POI/suspect and cannot search the place his cell pinged the very day a someone's child went missing? The same child who disappeared and he is the POI? REALLY. Even though LE has been told by the child's mom illegal drugs were purchasedwith cash withdrawn from her personal acct. He admitted to LE he had taken pills prior to the polygraph that he knew were not allowed prior to being tested but he took them anyway. LE can't find anything to charge him with? Nothing to subject the home he is staying in to a search for a girl that could be alive held against her will? Even though he has admitted to being the last person to see her? Y, Y, Y! LE has their hands tied I know. Just breaks my heart! android posted please excuse typos!
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Does anyone know how well homes were searched around her house?
From January 7th:

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/...ng-specialists

Additional agencies and officers are in Colorado City and behind the scenes in Dallas to assist. The task force, which numbered 30 yesterday, continues to grow as officials seek specialists in certain fields.

Non uniform law enforcement teams canvassed the neighborhood around Hailey's home conducting interviews asking for assistance in locating her.
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Of course they couldn't search every house without a warrant, but they did go door to door. I saved that link because I just knew this would come up just as it did with Kyron Horman and the original searches. But LE almost always works from the missing person's home outward into the neighborhood.
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Okay, regarding the use of Amber Alerts for runaways that was discussed at the way end of the last post, this is my opinion on it: If you issue an Amber Alert for every runaway, there will be an alert every few minutes. Approximately, 1-1.5 million young people runaway every year. That's about 2700-4100 alerts a day. People will begin to ignore them and it will become like a car alarm. I am not saying that runways aren't in danger but a child who is actually kidnapped is in IMMEDIATE danger. Also, I bet in many cases, the runaway is just hiding out at a friend's house. This is a direct quote from the Amber Alert website, "Overuse of AMBER Alert could result in the public becoming desensitized to Alerts when they are issued."
2,000. a day I think goes missing a day.... but not all in your area...If its Alerted quickly then it can be a local alert....then as more time passes and determination made whether its not a runaway then span out to national alerts....

I'd like to know immediately if a child was missing in my town or surrounding area...I'd BOLO for them..

Just seems to need to be a better way....maybe not an amber alert which could immediate danger but a BOLO alert....to keep an eye out and get prepared for possible further amber alerting if needed

By savings the alerts for only a few to use.. are we really saving children..I just dont know the answer....

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Old 01-25-2011, 01:06 AM
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I live in a town in Illinois that has the same amount of people even has a family dollar and a dollar general but the alco store closed down when walmart came in. I live in the worst part of town which really is just a bunch of old people in older homes. LOL But our taxes are low. Thanks for the info on the neighborhood.
A breakdown,, HD house faces West in front of her house is the water towers , two blocks to the West and maybe a block over is the Dollar General Store facing East, then across the street facing the DG store is Alco facing West. If a person went to all 3 stores which you could in 5 minutes, I think at least one camera would pick you up, if there are any? These stores are all accessible by walking down and through alleys, that would actually be a short cut. IMO
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hmmmm... the comfy couch seems to be a mystery !
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Does anyone know how well homes were searched around her house?
im not sure about the close area to Haileys, but i live about 5-6 blocks away and they just walked thru my garage and looked in a shed in the backyard.
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Elephants never forget so they need to go talk to the comfy couch.
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Sorry to back up here but did we have the date the mask arrived at SA's mom's house?
The only thing I have ever seen is that the date it was SENT OUT was Dec 28th.
Has anyone ever verified the arrival date?

He reviewed it on Jan 7th on MM site of course. In between moments of deep grief , no doubt.
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From January 7th:

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/...ng-specialists

Additional agencies and officers are in Colorado City and behind the scenes in Dallas to assist. The task force, which numbered 30 yesterday, continues to grow as officials seek specialists in certain fields.

Non uniform law enforcement teams canvassed the neighborhood around Hailey's home conducting interviews asking for assistance in locating her.
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Of course they couldn't search every house without a warrant, but they did go door to door. I saved that link because I just knew this would come up just as it did with Kyron Horman and the original searches. But LE almost always works from the missing person's home outward into the neighborhood.
In the Sommer Thompson case they asked to search everyone's home within several blocks. Most people allowed it. If they didn't it was noted.
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It seems like someone was just trying to do something nice for them. I doubt BD really even paid attention to any of it.MOO
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im not sure about the close area to Haileys, but i live about 5-6 blocks away and they just walked thru my garage and looked in a shed in the backyard.
TY, TY!!!

What's the popular drug or the one that seems most people are getting in trouble with in the area?
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im not sure about the close area to Haileys, but i live about 5-6 blocks away and they just walked thru my garage and looked in a shed in the backyard.
Tonight? Did they just walk through there tonight to look in the shed?...after dark? I'm on the east coast so I know it's not as late there as it is here, but still...hmm, interesting..
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That about the pitbulls. You know if one of them got out and actually killed a child, someone might be tempted to just get rid of the body to protect themselves from criminal charges.
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TY, TY!!!

What's the popular drug or the one that seems most people are getting in trouble with in the area?
Meth is a really big problem is my understanding ! IMO
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What is in the Parking Lot stays in the Parking Lot. You cannot bring that discussion to this thread. That is a members only forum. You can talk about the couch but not bring any discussion up from that forum.
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That about the pitbulls. You know if one of them got out and actually killed a child, someone might be tempted to just get rid of the body to protect themselves from criminal charges.
Could happen I guess ! but I would kill the dog first !
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The only thing I have ever seen is that the date it was SENT OUT was Dec 28th.
Has anyone ever verified the arrival date?

He reviewed it on Jan 7th on MM site of course. In between moments of deep grief , no doubt.
I just has a flash. SA received the mask and I sure he had to try it on...now that scary.

What could he be thinking with Hailey missing, all talk on the masks and he writing a review...
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Checking in to see if there is anything new. I feel this case going a little cool. We need to look at a different angle. I am fresh out of ideas. Feel so sorry for Hailey, lots of prayers.
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I just has a flash. SA received the mask and I sure he had to try it on...now that scary.

What could he be thinking with Hailey missing, all talk on the masks and he writing a review...
I don't think he was thinking about Hailey at all. More than likely on Monday or Tuesday he was sent an email saying the mask would be shipped or was shipped, thats what he was interested in. Mooo
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In the small towns you would think more would be seen, unless half the folks are related and all swear they saw nothing no matter what.
We have an area in this county thats like that.
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OK The Parking Lot is a private members only forum. As such you can never bring that information to the public forum. That is why we put it in a private forum.

I think this is getting too confusing. I'm going to move all couch discussion to the Parking Lot. That will make is easier.......

Everyone who wants to talk couch move it to the Parking Lot thread.

If your post disappears I have moved it to the Parking Lot.

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Tonight? Did they just walk through there tonight to look in the shed?...after dark? I'm on the east coast so I know it's not as late there as it is here, but still...hmm, interesting..
no sorry it wasnt tonight it was a few weeks ago. when they did the first door to door searches. did they do another door to door recently? havnt heard of any but wow.
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In the small towns you would think more would be seen, unless half the folks are related and all swear they saw nothing no matter what.
We have an area in this county thats like that.
yepper you might have hit the nail on the head ! If not kinfolks, perhaps birds of a feather !! IMO
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A breakdown,, HD house faces West in front of her house is the water towers , two blocks to the West and maybe a block over is the Dollar General Store facing East, then across the street facing the DG store is Alco facing West. If a person went to all 3 stores which you could in 5 minutes, I think at least one camera would pick you up, if there are any? These stores are all accessible by walking down and through alleys, that would actually be a short cut. IMO
Shortcuts should really be checked out. Any place a kid can walk and be out of sight of most people but yet one person watching them.
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In the Sommer Thompson case they asked to search everyone's home within several blocks. Most people allowed it. If they didn't it was noted.
And in Jessica Lumsford's case (missing 2/24)they search every one MH and fail to check a closet. LE didn't find Jessica until 3/19 across the road from her home.
They found her because a confess. Jessica's case bothers me the most
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The detectives did a cursory search of the premises, looking for signs of either Couey or Jessica. Unfortunately they failed to check the closet in the room where Couey had been staying.

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Nineteen days after Jessica Lunsford was first reported missing, detectives returned to Dixon's home on March 14. Authorities were still trying to locate John Couey. They searched the trailer again, and this time they checked the closets but found nothing incriminating. However, in the bedroom where Couey had slept, they found blood on the mattress

IMO that all they did in the search for Hailey (cursory check)

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/s...unsford/4.html
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