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Old 01-26-2011, 02:15 PM
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TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #45



Hailey is 13 years old. She was heading to stay with a friend on Monday Dec. 27th but never made it. She is 5'1" with hazel eyes and brown hair. She also has pierced ears. She was last seen at 1804 Chestnut, wearing navy blue sweat pants, a light colored T-shirt and pink and white shoes.
Anyone who has seen Hailey contact the Colorado City Police Dept. at 325-728-5294

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I'm seeing questions about sleuthing. Let me try to explain.

Persons named as a POI or Suspect are fully sleuthable.
Minors are never sleuthable. When copying a quote from MSM we even change minor's names to initials only.
Everyone else. You can discuss what they have said in media appearances, what the news has quoted them as saying, and their actions as reported in the news. We don't get into their personal lives, accuse them, discuss their background unless it is in MSM. Only discuss them so far as what MSM is reporting.

I hope this helps simplify sleuthing. I don't know too many people who don't have a skeleton or two in their closet. Just because they are related to, or somehow associated to a case like this, we can't destroy their reputation. Sometimes these associates or relatives move from this category to POI. Then the rules of sleuthing change.
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#45 and what do we really know????
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If BD was there why didn't DD say something about that too to his dad? I would think he would mention that mom was there and wouldn't open the door or something along those lines. jmo
Oh I feel sure he did! ..and we know that LE knows all about it from the affidavit...It just stops there after the 'deer/headlights' thing. We have not even heard ANYONE reference that incident on camera (and we KNOW it happened from that affidavits) ...and I believe that's at the request of LE...Am I the only one that wonders why no one has mentioned it even though obviously it was a big deal if DD went to get his dad?
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Good point pondering.......I wonder if she was home. I feel for BD's friend, she comes on her and bless her for that.....but goodness me, what contradictions we look at with what BD says and what is in the affadavits and what she says.
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Oh I feel sure he did! ..and we know that LE knows all about it from the affidavit...It just stops there after the 'deer/headlights' thing. We have not even heard ANYONE reference that incident on camera (and we KNOW it happened from that affidavits) ...and I believe that's at the request of LE...Am I the only one that wonders why no one has mentioned it even though obviously it was a big deal if DD went to get his dad?
I am just thinking he was stoned. But also if you look real close, he kind of has that look about him anyway. jmo
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I wanted to clarify my post about using big words was in reference to PK, the city manager spokesperson guy, not Hailey's father. IMO, PK's statements to the press are strange, and contradictory at times. I'm a little baffled how LE is letting him speak for them.
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"SA Daniel A COTTNER and SA Janet THOMAS interviewed Clint Dunn, 1-5-2011, and he stated DD had told him he returned home at approximately 4pm on Monday afternoon 12-27-2010 and pounded on the door for about 5 minutes and nobody would let him in. DD made entry through a window and got into the residence. SA Janet THOMAS later interviewed Billie DUNN who confirmed that DD had indeed pounded on the door and nobody would let him in and he then made entry into the residence and observed Shawn Adkins standing in the hallway with a deer in the headlights look"


Bringing forth this portion of the affidavit though I know I'm gonna get pelted with apples ..
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I wanted to clarify my post about using big words was in reference to PK, the city manager spokesperson guy, not Hailey's father. IMO, PK's statements to the press are strange, and contradictory at times. I'm a little baffled how LE is letting him speak for them.
I'm betting because he volunteered and no one else wants to do it.
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Hailey Dunn's disappearance is not related to the Lubbock teen who was kidnapped and murdered this month, Kampfer said.

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Good point pondering.......I wonder if she was home. I feel for BD's friend, she comes on her and bless her for that.....but goodness me, what contradictions we look at with what BD says and what is in the affadavits and what she says.
How many affadavits are there. Seems when I find them, it is just the same thing over and over. I know there is a contradiction about buying the drugs--she says groceries---what other contradictions are there? tia
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Oh I feel sure he did! ..and we know that LE knows all about it from the affidavit...It just stops there after the 'deer/headlights' thing. We have not even heard ANYONE reference that incident on camera (and we KNOW it happened from that affidavits) ...and I believe that's at the request of LE...Am I the only one that wonders why no one has mentioned it even though obviously it was a big deal if DD went to get his dad?
I know for me-- the use of "nobody" would answer the door, rather than "no one" would answer-- makes me believe there was an assumption that more than one person was in the home. moo
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It was stated back 40 threads ago that SA took acting lessons at school.........
school plays or somethig.
Do we have any idea what his grades were like?
BD called him Mentally R......slow.........is he???
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I am just thinking he was stoned. But also if you look real close, he kind of has that look about him anyway. jmo
I thought that at first as well! Having been married to a crack head, they do have that type of look on their face when confronted!. But after realizing that BD got off work early (but no confirmation of how early) and the fact that something bothered DD enough to leave the house AFTER he was inside to go and get his dad..I just don't know? Add to that why would CD not say something to SA (granted we don't know whether he did or not for sure)..but he prolly wouldn't IF he got there and found out that BD was home too...
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"SA Daniel A COTTNER and SA Janet THOMAS interviewed Clint Dunn, 1-5-2011, and he stated DD had told him he returned home at approximately 4pm on Monday afternoon 12-27-2010 and pounded on the door for about 5 minutes and nobody would let him in. DD made entry through a window and got into the residence. SA Janet THOMAS later interviewed Billie DUNN who confirmed that DD had indeed pounded on the door and nobody would let him in and he then made entry into the residence and observed Shawn Adkins standing in the hallway with a deer in the headlights look"


Bringing forth this portion of the affidavit though I know I'm gonna get pelted with apples ..
I like how your mind works, and the way you think out of the box. [ to put it mildly]

but i am going to disagree that BD was there at the house when DD climbed thru the window.

If so, then she would have been there when Hailey left for the sleep over. Do you think that is the case?
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I like how your mind works, and the way you think out of the box. [ to put it mildly]

but i am going to disagree that BD was there at the house when DD climbed thru the window.

If so, then she would have been there when Hailey left for the sleep over. Do you think that is the case?
katy, I don't believe Hailey was even in her bed that morning to be honest. I hope I am proven wrong...you have no idea how much I hope that's the case.. I DO NOT mind being wrong, lol!
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I like how your mind works, and the way you think out of the box. [ to put it mildly]

but i am going to disagree that BD was there at the house when DD climbed thru the window.

If so, then she would have been there when Hailey left for the sleep over. Do you think that is the case?
We have no proof of that, as far as I can see.
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I thought that at first as well! Having been married to a crack head, they do have that type of look on their face when confronted!. But after realizing that BD got off work early (but no confirmation of how early) and the fact that something bothered DD enough to leave the house AFTER he was inside to go and get his dad..I just don't know? Add to that why would CD not say something to SA (granted we don't know whether he did or not for sure)..but he prolly wouldn't IF he got there and found out that BD was home too...
Along those same lines I wonder what was so urgent for DD to climb through a window to get in and then not stay. I really don't think CD was very involved in their lives so I am not surprised he didn't say anything. I don't find that strange. And you are right there probably hasn't been everything released. Then again LE may have thrown that into the affadavit trying to make their case against SA look better. ijdk
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It was stated back 40 threads ago that SA took acting lessons at school.........
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Do we have any idea what his grades were like?
BD called him Mentally R......slow.........is he???
BD was not referring to him being 'retarded' when she called him MHMR on the 911 calls. She was telling the cops he was crazy, and he had mental problems.
The call was about him threatening to kill her and Clint. It was about his anger issues, not his being 'slow' or retarded.

When NG questioned her she LIED imo. NG asked her what she meant when she said he was MHMR and she paused for a long time and then said ' retarded' because SHE DID NOT WANT TO ADMIT SHE KNEW HE WAS CRAZY BACK THEN.
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katy, I don't believe Hailey was even in her bed that morning to be honest. I hope I am proven wrong...you have no idea how much I hope that's the case.. I DO NOT mind being wrong, lol!
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BD was not referring to him being 'retarded' when she called him MHMR on the 911 calls. She was telling the cops he was crazy, and he had mental problems.
The call was about him threatening to kill her and Clint. It was about his anger issues, not his being 'slow' or retarded.

When NG questioned her she LIED imo. NG asked her what she meant when she said he was MHMR and she paused for a long time and then said ' retarded' because SHE DID NOT WANT TO ADMIT SHE KNEW HE WAS CRAZY BACK THEN.
I think she meant that exactly and the reason she paused was because she was trying to decide if she wanted to admit she used that term. jmo
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Along those same lines I wonder what was so urgent for DD to climb through a window to get in and then not stay. I really don't think CD was very involved in their lives so I am not surprised he didn't say anything. I don't find that strange. And you are right there probably hasn't been everything released. Then again LE may have thrown that into the affadavit trying to make their case against SA look better. ijdk
Anything is possible...For some reason DD was locked out and apparently since Billie says that she never locked the doors and windows he just climbed in and was confronted by SA. I think the rest is left out on purpose. LE will ONLY put enough info in a search warrant affidavit to get the warrant..they do not want to show their hand if at all possible....I don't believe that DD saw BD when he went in and only after CD came over did they realize she was there..<total speculation...and I agree little Hailey didn't really have anyone watching over her as she should have...
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I was once seated next to a guy from Texas on a very long...long..... flight. His speech patterns almost literally drove me insane. He talked super slow, and everything was convoluted like Kampfer's statement above. I'm from New Jersey, (south) here, we talk really fast and use as few words as possible to get our point across. We are an impatiant bunch, and he seemed more than relaxed and certainly knew how to take his time and ramble.

When I called the Pizza Hut to order pizzas for the searchers, I was a little stunned at just how friendly the guy was & how long it took to order. That was rather nice. VERY different from here.

Then I got to thinking .....when I was listening to Billie on NG...and Clint....Kampfer in the presser and it finally hit me. Maybe this is the way EVERYONE in Texas talks? YES? NO?
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