FBI will dedicate up to six agents to help investigate the Kyron Horman disappearance

[tfrohning]

Originally Posted by cluciano63

I still don't understand the 54 cars for all of these people...
OR how LE could not have been able to reach anyone by now

Thank Goodness! I was wondering what I was missing

I guessing they also talking about the kids that came on buses

[GrainneDhu]

Originally Posted by Counting on Justice

Snipped from the article:

Investigators have identified more than 490 people who were at the school June 4, as well as the 54 vehicles parked on the campus that day, Staton said. To do that, they had to examine photographs taken at the school during the science fair, sometimes checking the license plates of cars appearing in the background.

"The actual account of everyone and everything that was on that campus that day, we now know," he said.

Okay, this tells me that it has to be at least one of these 490 people. The article also go on to say that there were some that haven't been reached yet. If they have been able to verify the alibis of the ones that they have reached, then it is one of the ones that they have not been able to reach.

Why would you not want to cooperate? These particular people have had almost 9 months to come forward. Why would you wait for LE to track you down? Hmmmmm.

I don't discount pure and simple ignorance.

Don't forget that every couple years, some media organisation conducts a poll of people on the street and discovers an amazing percentage who do not know who is president, vice president or governor of their own state.

I'm so fascinated with politics that it is hard for me to really understand people who are not. But what I think goes on is that their lives are already full, they have their own interests, so they just tune out information that is not directly relevant to their lives, such as the name of the president. There are probably people who can't believe that I haven't followed my local university football, basketball or wrestling programs in years. I haven't the faintest idea of whether they are having winning seasons or not. And all three are teams that win bowl games and tournaments!

Also, if I had ever been treated unfairly by the police or knew someone close to me who had been treated unfairly and knew that I had no evidence to contribute, I might be tempted to avoid police contact thinking that it would make no real difference and not realising it might.

[cluciano63]

Re: Not wanting to contact police; there is a difference between not wanting to make contact with LE and not responding if LE tries to make contact with you. I'd like to know which is the case with the people they have not been able to "reach."

[BeanE]

The video and audio links for the meeting are up now on the Board of Commissioners page.

http://multnomah.granicus.com/ViewPu....php?view_id=3

[Shadowboy]

I’m probably being a butt. Often am. However, this is a KATU story posted on June 5th. I know Staton has made numerous statements about “bringing” the FBI to the party early in the investigation. Hopefully, the reporter who wrote this meant “was” … however, the operative verb here is “has.”

“FBI also has asked …”

http://www.katu.com/news/local/95691389.html

PORTLAND, Ore. – The National Guard is now assisting in the search for a second grader from Portland's Skyline Elementary School who went missing Friday.

That's according to a press conference held Saturday by the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. The FBI also has asked to participate in the search, although as of Saturday – according to spokesman and Multnomah Captain Jason Gates – it had yet to do so.

[browneyedgirl]

THINKING OUT LOUD HERE.....MAYBE IT WAS THE FBI THAT SUGGESTED DESIREE GO OUT IN TH HOMETOWN WITH FLIERS OF KYRON...TO SEE IF THEY COULD GET TH TO SLIP UP...MAYBE THE FBI TEAM HAS BEEN ON TH SINCE BEFORE RELEASING TO THE MEDIA AND PUBLIC THAT THEY ARE NOW INVOLVED......TO WATCH HER PATTERNS AND ACQUAINTANCES.GAIN MORE INFORMATION ON HER WITHOUT HER BEING AWARE...

PLAUSIBLE OR TOO MANY EPISODES OF "CRIMINAL MINDS"? LOL

[cluciano63]

Originally Posted by browneyedgirl

THINKING OUT LOUD HERE.....MAYBE IT WAS THE FBI THAT SUGGESTED DESIREE GO OUT IN TH HOMETOWN WITH FLIERS OF KYRON...TO SEE IF THEY COULD GET TH TO SLIP UP...MAYBE THE FBI TEAM HAS BEEN ON TH SINCE BEFORE RELEASING TO THE MEDIA AND PUBLIC THAT THEY ARE NOW INVOLVED......TO WATCH HER PATTERNS AND ACQUAINTANCES.GAIN MORE INFORMATION ON HER WITHOUT HER BEING AWARE...

PLAUSIBLE OR TOO MANY EPISODES OF "CRIMINAL MINDS"? LOL

Someone suggested this earlier...anything is possible. I just feel Desiree's quest is very personal and based on emotions, partly because she knew what was, or wasn't, going to happen today. I don't know if the FBI would put her in a position where something could go wrong-what if TH had opened the door and Desiree was injured, for example? Or if someone injures TH because of the added publicity?

[browneyedgirl]

Originally Posted by cluciano63

someone suggested this earlier...anything is possible. I just feel desiree's quest is very personal and based on emotions, partly because she knew what was, or wasn't, going to happen today. I don't know if the fbi would put her in a position where something could go wrong-what if th had opened the door and desiree was injured, for example? Or if someone injures th because of the added publicity?

i get the safety factor....however dy was never alone. Being an ex-wife ofa leo, i could totally defend myself in any given situation being taught by professionals, and im sure her husband has given her a few self defense lessons......besides the rage im sure she has toward that woman, th wouldnt stand a chance...imo

as far as someone injuring th because of added publicity....i just dont see that happening.....if anyone has hurt th, its herself...by creating this nightmare she now calls her life...by cheating kyron out of the rest of his life and of her daughter from ever having a sane biological egg donor....by cheating desiree and kaine from their beautiful son for the rest of their lives.....

But like i said earlier..could just be too many episodes of criminal minds......

[DreamyEye]

While searching for Kyron news for 2-24-11 (today), I ran across this. I'm not sure where this should go, but it's interesting:

http://seadev.bonnint.net/?sid=352189&nid=11

[DreamyEye]

Reading the OregonLive article for today, it says that the FBI has been working with profiles. This is the first I've heard of profiles.

I wonder whether this means the FBI is more open than local LE to other suspects besides Terri. If you are convinced that a specific person is the wrongdoer, how many resources do you invest in building profiles?

I think the FBI cell phone expert is interesting too, in light of the news that recent searches have involved hunting for disposable phones.

[cluciano63]

Originally Posted by DreamyEye

While searching for Kyron news for 2-24-11 (today), I ran across this. I'm not sure where this should go, but it's interesting:

http://seadev.bonnint.net/?sid=352189&nid=11

Yes, it is very interesting, wonder why no one else had this story?

[scandi]

Originally Posted by Aedrys

Exactly. And ironically, by buying the best lawyer in Oregon, Terri is ensuring that MSCO is going to build the most airtight case they can against her. They don't want to leave a single hole for Mr. Houze to poke through. If I were Terri, I'd be nervous, very nervous about now. They are still focusing on her, and they are going to make sure to put as many nails in her coffin as they can. It gives me more faith that they aren't rushing just to arrest her, and then have to let her go because Houze is able to produce enough reasonable doubt. Good for them. I am willing to wait and be patient if it means this woman goes to jail for the rest of her life.

Hi Asdrys, I hope TH comes to the forum here and feels a cold chill go right down her spine when she reads your post. Thanks

[eileenhawkeye]

Originally Posted by DreamyEye

While searching for Kyron news for 2-24-11 (today), I ran across this. I'm not sure where this should go, but it's interesting:

http://seadev.bonnint.net/?sid=352189&nid=11

This is from the article:

A potential new lead in the ongoing investigation into what happened to Kyron Horman, who disappeared from his school in Portland, Oregon eight weeks ago.

Did they mean to write eight months ago? Or is this an old article?

[scandi]

Originally Posted by cluciano63

Yes, it is very interesting, wonder why no one else had this story?

WOW is right Clu. Thanks for that Dreamy Eye. It is interesting to me that the comments to that article are from August 2010. What is with that do you think?


I think the case is more complicated than we realize which is why the FBI team is in place now:


An IMO speculative theory:

* It could be something like they had a dog hit on a spot close to where TH's phone pinged {3 pings that I've read about} but found no remains there.
* It would explain why they have looked so ardently in several specific places and why they are confident they will solve the case and won't give it up.
* And also explain why Desiree now gives us her feeling that Kyron is dead. LE knows that, but they just don't know where his body is yet. They might have shared that with her - she gave us new info they are searching in a spot 11 miles east of the school + that they know TH was there, where they are searching now {hope that is worded correctly}.
* The FBI tightening up the placement of the pingS with a ping specialist from San Francisco - That is SO exciting and could only be to target in on the remains IMO. !!!

I am so encouraged tonight that Kyron will be found and brought home and that his abductor/killer will pay for what they have done.

[scandi]

Originally Posted by eileenhawkeye

This is from the article:



Did they mean to write eight months ago? Or is this an old article?

Hi Eileen, I know they do update old articles sometimes. But here I think since the '8' is correct they put weeks instead of months and the proofer didn't catch it. IMO

[DreamyEye]

That's what I think too, Scandi.

[scandi]

Originally Posted by cluciano63

Yes, it is very interesting, wonder why no one else had this story?

Hi Clu, This article was originally from Aug 2nd but was updated Feb 16th.

They must have gotten a tip about those throw away cell phones, eh? We thought at the Skyline Rd and Moreland Rd search they were looking for evidence. How far is Moreland Rd from the school. Maybe they are giving an incorrect direction for the 11 miles on purpose.

We also know they did a ground search at Skyline and Germantown Rd and placed the Horman truck there at 10:30 am, right?

Sorry if this is OT, so I'm going over to the search thread. xox

[scandi]

Originally Posted by DreamyEye

That's what I think too, Scandi.

Oh, suddenly my hands are shakin' as things are seemingly coming together, explaining what LE is doing and why. And I definitely think Desiree's giving us the new info in her presser {only 5 days from the MCSO presser} was designed that way on purpose.

I think they want the person they suspect and the accomplice {if there was one} to start getting real nervous like. What a strategy by LE.

[cluciano63]

This article is very confusing, as wasn't it about 8 weeks in when searchers did return to the area near Skyline and there were rumors that they might be searching for phones?

I don't know what to think here. But I am leaning toward thinking it is an old article that somehow surfaced. The comments after the article are all dated last August as well.

[cluciano63]

http://www.adn.com/2011/02/24/172009...earch-for.html

I'm guessing that from what Gates says here, a "semi-conclusion" would be if they think they know what happened but can't prove it?

[pinktoes]

Originally Posted by cluciano63

http://www.adn.com/2011/02/24/172009...earch-for.html

I'm guessing that from what Gates says here, a "semi-conclusion" would be if they think they know what happened but can't prove it?

I don't know what he meant. What he said could also mean that the investigation simply is stopped because they couldn't identify the perp (s) within the time/resources available. And, that they made their best effort, bringing the FBI to help. It happens.

Who knows?

[cluciano63]

Originally Posted by pinktoes

I don't know what he meant. What he said could also mean that the investigation simply is stopped because they couldn't identify the perp (s) within the time/resources available. And, that they made their best effort, bringing the FBI to help. It happens.

Who knows?

Or maybe even if they never find Kyron but do press charges eventually. I guess to some, that would be a "semi-conclusion."

[DreamyEye]

Originally Posted by cluciano63

This article is very confusing, as wasn't it about 8 weeks in when searchers did return to the area near Skyline and there were rumors that they might be searching for phones?

I don't know what to think here. But I am leaning toward thinking it is an old article that somehow surfaced. The comments after the article are all dated last August as well.

Now I'm thinking that the August article about the search for phones was revived because of the 2-24 news that the FBI is bringing in a cell phone expert. I can't think of any other reason for the media to bring up the August search.

[cluciano63]

Originally Posted by DreamyEye

Now I'm thinking that the August article about the search for phones was revived because of the 2-24 news that the FBI is bringing in a cell phone expert. I can't think of any other reason for the media to bring up the August search.

That's possible...but most of the article itself, is old news, I'd say. 6 months old.

[Trident]

Hopefully, the FBI agents will take a good look at all the data and suggest a wider, more in-depth investigation of everyone involved.