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The sheep jumping over the fence! (Counting sheep comes to mind sometimes during this trial!)
Why are you implying that those who are looking for hard evidence and following the presumption of innocence until proven guilty are sheep? That's insulting.
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Haven't we already heard from a witness who said MH asked NC for permission first, and then confirmed time with BC while NC was standing there?
We heard that MH asked NC about when he could play tennis with BC. According to the witness, NC didn't say anything. She dialed the number and handed the phone to MH. If he did tell her the plans I'm not sure she acknowledged them. It would be yet another passive/aggressive act to go ahead and let him make plans and then take off the next day to go paint and leave him with the girls.
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Seems like they were going back and forth. Prosecution and some witnesses want us to believe it was hate mode all the time. Maybe it was? I totally agree it was miserable and not an enviable marriage to anybody. But that's my point. They were still making plans with other couples? I find it bizarre and unexplainable?
When you're stuck in a house together sometimes it's easier to pass the time when other people are around? IDK - just thinking how I would handle a situation like this. Somebody else to be around, to laugh with, to talk with, rather than being stuck inside four walls with someone I barely could stand.
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I'm in the older generation and I don't even really know my neighbors. We didn't move into the neighborhood when it was built though so the people here were already established. (They all seem to know each other.) My daughter and her husband had a house built and they know a whole bunch of their neighbors. The neighbors are always getting together in backyards and having parties. My daughter and son-in-law have ALL the neighborhood gossip. So I guess it depends on where you live and who your neighbors are.
I live out in the middle of nowhere with the cows and cornfields. I love it! Would never, ever want to move back into a gossipy, nosy neighborhood where the houses are not 15 feet from one another.
My middle child and his wife live in a very upscale neighborhood in the Raleigh area--much like Lochmere-- and the social aspects are very much like the Coopers. I just bite my tongue.
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When you're stuck in a house together sometimes it's easier to pass the time when other people are around? IDK - just thinking how I would handle a situation like this. Somebody else to be around, to laugh with, to talk with, rather than being stuck inside four walls with someone I barely could stand.
Nancy was pretty much trapped where she was, IMO. Wanted to leave, but couldn't go home to Canada with no passports, couldn't get a job with no green card, Brad limiting her cashflow. I would need interaction with other people, instead of the "hate mode " guy.

ETA: I imagine Brad was alot more sociable when others were around, as well.
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Sheep are followers, a bit like the buffalo that heaved themselves over cliffs, and lemmings, too (pied piper and all that). I don't view people that are undecided as sheep, buffalo, or lemmings. Actually, making up ones mind prior to hearing the evidence strikes me as more like a buffalo or lemming (sheep).

I don't think sheep following the one in front is the correct avatar for those that have not come to a conclusion regarding the involvement of Brad Cooper in his wife's murder.
You're absolutely right. As a matter of fact, counting sheep indicates one is having trouble getting to sleep. Since this trial is putting some to sleep, another animal would be appropriate!
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It's Mike Hiller, not Scott Hiller.

Scott Heider is/was Brad's buddy.
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Why are you implying that those who are looking for hard evidence and following the presumption of innocence until proven guilty are sheep? That's insulting.
I wasn't implying that. I was thinking of counting sheep to get to sleep!
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I live out in the middle of nowhere with the cows and cornfields. I love it! Would never, ever want to move back into a gossipy, nosy neighborhood where the houses are not 15 feet from one another.
My middle child and his wife live in a very upscale neighborhood in the Raleigh area--much like Lochmere-- and the social aspects are very much like the Coopers. I just bite my tongue.
Yep, I live in a neighborhood like that. To make a long story short my neighbor gossiped about me. It made it all the way across town to my best friend who called and told me. It wasnt even the truth and my friend does not even know her. My husband planted tall trees around our fence. lol. She has since moved. I can just see the talk in the lochmere neighborhood.
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I hope those weren't two witnesses the camera just showed walking in.
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I kind of found it odd that she would tell the whole neighborhood about her problems, but maybe thats just me. I can understand a close friend, but a woman that she met at a party?
Personally, when I am stressed out I tend to be a big mouth about it too and the subject of stress comes up to people that I am not that close with. She probably had her ear, meaning the lady acted like she was listening and cared so she spilled her guts.. the other friends may have been kind of tired of her talking about it and disinterested. jmo
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Yep, I live in a neighborhood like that. To make a long story short my neighbor gossiped about me. It made it all the way across town to my best friend who called and told me. It wasnt even the truth and my friend does not even know her. My husband planted tall trees around our fence. lol. She has since moved. I can just see the talk in the lochmere neighborhood.
Yep been there too in the neighborhood I'm in now. The gossip was so uncomfortable to be around, so I have nothing to do with any of my neighbors anymore. I don't tell anybody anything. I got so sick of them coming up to me at the bus stop in the mornings saying things like "Oh, I heard you're_______" fill in the blank. When I stopped socializing with them, they called social services on me, claiming I was abusing my kids. Neighborhood women can be ugly and vicious. And to make it even worse I lived here long before any of them did!
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Yep been there too in the neighborhood I'm in now. The gossip was so uncomfortable to be around, so I have nothing to do with any of my neighbors anymore. I don't tell anybody anything. I got so sick of them coming up to me at the bus stop in the mornings saying things like "Oh, I heard you're_______" fill in the blank. When I stopped socializing with them, they called social services on me, claiming I was abusing my kids. Neighborhood women can be ugly and vicious. And to make it even worse I lived here long before any of them did!
Oh yeah. I met a couple of my neighbors at a party for a mutual friend. (File under "it's a small world" category.) They know ALL about me and my family! LOL!
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Thought: Maybe those of us who believe Brad is guilty should change our avatar to a picture of Nancy.

Those who believe Brad is innocent could use the Smirking Brad pic!
What about those of us that haven't formed an opinion on his guilt because we haven't seen evidence proving his guilt? What should we use?



ETA: Never mind...I saw your other posts.
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