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NY - E. Harlem, BlkMale UP6829, 20-30, In East River -"Nate the Great" Tattoo, Oct'97
The Doe Network:
Case File 1619UMNY http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1619umny.html
Tattoo
Unidentified Black Male
* The victim was discovered on October 12, 1997 in New York County, New York
Vital Statistics
* Estimated age: 20-30 years old
* Approximate Height and Weight: 71"; 165 lbs.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Black, coarse, curly hair; brown eyes.
* Tattoos: "Nate the Great" on right shoulder.
* Clothing: Light blue boxers, blue "Pelle Pelle" jeans and a blue shoe.
* Dentals: Available
Case History
The victim was located floating in the East River at East 90th Street by the Coast Guard.
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04-11-2011, 01:08 PM
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How about this guy:
Nathan Hines
http://www.nampn.org/cases/hines_nathan.html
* His name is Nathan (of which "Nate" is a variation).
* He was last seen six days before the UID was found.
* He is from the Bronx. The UID was found in the East River (which is pretty close to the Bronx)
* He is reported to have a tattoo that says "Nat" on his Left Shoulder. The UID's tattoo is on the right. But the description on Nathan Hines' NAMPN page may be mistaken.
* His height is within an inch.
* His age is within range.
* His ethnicity is right.
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04-11-2011, 01:24 PM
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Turn it in Carl!!
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04-11-2011, 01:27 PM
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Turn it in Carl!!
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I left a voicemail with Benjamin Figuera.
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04-11-2011, 01:30 PM
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You would think they would have been compared, but we both know that is not always the case 
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04-11-2011, 01:34 PM
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You would think they would have been compared, but we both know that is not always the case |
I can think of several NYC cases off the top of my head of people who should have been compared but weren't.
The case of Cemal Cansev is one.
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04-11-2011, 01:50 PM
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Does anyone know When Bob Harrod went missing?
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Great job...fingers crossed.
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04-11-2011, 02:08 PM
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50K reward, Bob Harrod-Missing: Call Det. Radomski 714-993-8176
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Keep us posted Carl! Looks like a great possibility!
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04-11-2011, 02:25 PM
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she's ba-ack
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The location is good. The Bronx is upstream from the East River location.
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04-12-2011, 01:07 AM
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looks good Carl. NY seems to be finally making an effort. Hopefully Nathan can soon rest in peace.
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04-13-2011, 12:15 PM
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I sent an e-mail to Benjamin Figura yesterday evening after not receiving a reply to my voicemail message. He replied as follows:
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Carl, I got your message yesterday and the match is compelling. I'm waiting on additional info from missing persons.
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04-13-2011, 12:44 PM
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But O for the touch of the vanished hand & the sound of the voice that is still.
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I think this is a match Carl! Great Job!!!!!
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04-13-2011, 02:47 PM
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Sounds good Carl!
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04-13-2011, 04:13 PM
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I sent an e-mail to Benjamin Figura yesterday evening after not receiving a reply to my voicemail message. He replied as follows:
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it is astonishing that this guy was not #1 on their list when the body was first retreived from the East River in 1997.
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05-19-2011, 04:39 PM
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here is the Namus link for the UID:
https://identifyus.org/cases/6829
no rule-outs including Nathan Hines. interestingly enough, the Namus page was last modified on April 12, 2011 which was the day after Carl called the NYC ME's office, but it is impossible to know what was modified.
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05-23-2011, 08:59 AM
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Nothing else on this yet?
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05-23-2011, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
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Nothing else on this yet?
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Nothing yet.
I sent a follow-up e-mail.
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NYPD is researching the MP case. No resolution yet.
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05-23-2011, 02:48 PM
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I don' do a lot of this - generally I just stick to one old case by me - but when I saw this pop up on DoeNetwork I came to the same place as Carl did and I've been watching this thread ever since.
So, I'm wondering - what takes this long to rule someone out?
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Quote:
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I don' do a lot of this - generally I just stick to one old case by me - but when I saw this pop up on DoeNetwork I came to the same place as Carl did and I've been watching this thread ever since.
So, I'm wondering - what takes this long to rule someone out?
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I can only assume the MP file did not have enough information to make it a solid match or rule-out so they would have to go back to the MP people and request additional information.
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08-13-2011, 03:36 PM
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Still nothing huh?
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12-20-2011, 09:30 AM
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Still nothing???
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12-20-2011, 11:23 AM
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Still nothing???
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Still nothing. This is another one of those cases where I can't get anyone on the MP side to answer a voicemail message. I've contacted Benjamin Figura twice, and all I get is "we're looking into it."
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12-20-2011, 03:16 PM
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Still nothing. This is another one of those cases where I can't get anyone on the MP side to answer a voicemail message. I've contacted Benjamin Figura twice, and all I get is "we're looking into it."
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We are running into the same problem with him regarding another case. I have tried several other people in the ME office but no luck there either.
Is there something else we can do for all of these unidentified people in the NYC area? There has to be someone who can help if the ME/Local police are not interested in solving these cases?!? Some of them may be easily solved with a simple DNA test, that apparently NYC is not doing even though they received a grant to do so....
http://www.nyc.gov/html/ocme/html/mpi/mpi_home.shtml
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12-20-2011, 04:03 PM
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We are running into the same problem with him regarding another case. I have tried several other people in the ME office but no luck there either.
Is there something else we can do for all of these unidentified people in the NYC area? There has to be someone who can help if the ME/Local police are not interested in solving these cases?!? Some of them may be easily solved with a simple DNA test, that apparently NYC is not doing even though they received a grant to do so....
http://www.nyc.gov/html/ocme/html/mpi/mpi_home.shtml |
The UID at the link below is another case where NYC has an obvious match (to MP Ernest Lyons), and doesn't seem to want to do the legwork to get a positive ID:
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12-20-2011, 04:59 PM
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There has got to be something someone can do. If this ME is not doing his job, someone else needs to. Any ideas? It appears there are quite a few cases like this! That is a crime in itself. Think of all of these poor family member searching desperatley for their loved ones, the agony they must go through day after day, wondering where they are, and someone knows where they are but for what ever reason doesnt want to be bothered. That makes me sick!
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