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Old 04-16-2011, 10:44 PM
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I think the Mother was on meds. She seemed devastated to me.
Oh, I agree she was. It was heartbreaking watching her :-(
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Old 04-16-2011, 10:49 PM
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She has a sister?????????????////// Wow.
I'm cross-eyed from scanning pages and pages of the other person's FB... and they do refer to each other as cousins... "cuz".
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Old 04-16-2011, 10:57 PM
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HI everyone - I have a quick question that I haven't seen answered yet. I have read that the dogs couldn't pick up a scent of Holly into the woods, however, has anyone answered if the dogs were able to pick up a scent of her by her car? Seems strange to me that no one has mentioned this. My theory is, and please don't jump down my throat, that maybe she never went to her car at all. Also, while I'm at it, the lunchbox thing really bothers me too. For some reason I am thinking it was planted.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:04 PM
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I think the problem with the dogs (if there was one at all) would be that there would be dozens of scents of her in that area. They had lived there for years. She had come and gone from the yard many times, and probably entered the woods to walk or hunt many times. If she had done chores such as mowing the lawn, the trails would criss cross and double back and make identifying a specific one quite difficult. I believe that those familiar with tracking dogs have posted here before that recent vs NEW trails would be very similar for the dogs and hard to differentiate.

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Old 04-16-2011, 11:06 PM
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I hate to drone on and on about errors but good grief....Channel 5 out of Memphis cannot even get the lead investigator's name correct in their broadcast. I know it is a small thing but gee...they are better than this. The lead guy also said they would be searching the same areas next week....I wondered then if he did not expect a resolve to this thing before then.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:11 PM
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I hate that they are talking about what they will be doing "next week."
This is so depressing and scary. I can't stand to think of her poor mother.

As to the dogs, we have no info as to what type of dogs, or what they found; the only report was on Fox and Mark F. said there was no scent.

The lunchbox seems weird to me too...I just don't see how it ends up 6-8 miles away, who was carrying it all that time? I am sure Holly was restrained in some way. And where are her books, etc? I wish they would say if they found her other things.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:22 PM
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Seems to me if there was blood in a situation like this, the LE would put a rush on who's it is.

Also, depending on the amount of blood found in the carport (the infamous is there or isn't there blood lol), wouldn't there be more blood leading to the woods from the house? People just don't stop bleeding, especially if they are walking a distance like that.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:22 PM
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What is the success rate of LE recovering abducted persons alive?
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:26 PM
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I think they must have results on the blood by now...and they have not said it isn't hers, which is not sounding good...
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I am listening to Levi's show...will report if anything of note. So far, a rather dramatic intro to the case and he still says brother saw Holly being "led" into the woods...

He states that brother has been ruled out, as well as boyfriend.
Says he did not call 911 because he thought it was her boyfriend.
Saw the blood in garage (he says) and he also says TBI confirmed this tonight (?)

He has Pat Brown and Stacy Dietrich (sp): Stacy says LE would never say someone is not a suspect if they might be one.
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I guess we need to put our trust in the "around the clock" recovery efforts.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:52 PM
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They are talking about the cousin who is a singer (Levi P. show)
Says maybe a fan of her singing? That Holly was in local shows. But Pat B. says no, the house is remote, it is someone focused on her.
Pat is confused, not as sure about things, too many changes in the story. Now saying she was in fear for her life-where do they come up with this crap? How could they know that?
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:53 PM
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Blood in garage-how much? If she is being "led" away, then where did blood come from?

Still Pat B.-phone found-Levi says no, not true.
Pat says she has never seen a case like this, she is really confused, Le is retracting everything they say.
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Pat B. says at this point she has no idea, but is confused if brother did change his story or is it all bad reporting?

Stacy D. says they speculate about her being taken by force, maybe she had a bloody nose, brother only saw them from behind, she could have had a gun to her stomach.

Lunchbox-why was she still carrying it?
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The difficulty I would imagine is that most criminals know that they must operate by cover of night. Wonder if there are any volunteers on night shift? Doesn't seem likely. So, I'm hoping that there are more trained professionals who will be able to take over.
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(If not okay to have Levi's show details here, please delete...)
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Pat B. says someone can only be cleared if there is no way on God's earth the person could be guilty...the person was elsewhere, etc...How did they completely eliminate anyone? She doesn't think it is possible to eliminate anyone.

Unless there is something we don't know. (ha!)
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Levi talking about conflicting reports...TBI said no drag marks...have ruled that out. Pat says where did that come from to begin with? A pretty strong statement to make ,she says.
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Levi says the media sometimes add things to a case that may not be true (great).
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Stacy says in a remote area, man should have stood out if he was stalking her; talked about the case in Ohio, where the people were put in the tree, a woman had seen the man in the area prior but never called police. Did anyone see him before that day?
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Why don't the well-paid experts and media tell us something we don't know.
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Caller said home invasion/dragging came from a press release from TBI originally.

Pat says what makes people suspicious of brother is that maybe he said dragged at first, but then said what I meant was his arm was around her...that maybe when questioned in depth, he changed his wording (changed his tune, Pat says). Pat wants to hear 911 calls.
Levi said maybe he took and passed a LD test.
Stacy said they may have evidence that points to someone else.
Panic on a call will change the words you use.
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The blood is what caused brother to panic, (so I doubt it is animal blood, or anything he expected to see there-this is from me, not from them.)
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