TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #8

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

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Holly Lynn Bobo was last seen early on the morning of April 13, 2011, outside of her home in Darden, Tennessee. She was seen being led away from the carport of her home toward a wooded area by a man described as approximately 5'8" to 6'0" tall and 200 pounds, wearing camouflage clothing.

Holly Lynn Bobo was last seen wearing a pink shirt and light blue jeans.

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[cocomod]

I am very curious. I have read in several places about the "ex" boyfriend. I read the comments below the ABC article from locals who claim that many "know" who it is. Why hasn't this name leaked out yet? They claim that the FB page is disturbing. I am having a hard time understanding why noone outside of this community has been given a "glimpse" of this "ex"??

[Eileen730]

Originally Posted by Emma Peel

alternate timeline:

Perhaps the scream came "first" rather than "later".

Neighbor leaving work was going to her car in her driveway in quiet rural neighborhood and heard the sound of a woman scream... (not sure if she called 911 or reported it later)

Holly had left house at same time as neighbor. Holly was confronted by abductor and she immediately screams - hoping her brother hears her perhaps - then Holly is assaulted @ carport and further threatened if she screams again. Weapon shown, captor walks her to woods, Holly - in shock - cooperates.

Brother doesn't hear scream for whatever reason (shower?). But catches glimpse of them walking (from far vantage point). Recognizes sister & the man he thinks at the moment is her BF.

Brother goes outside to begin his day, sees Holly's car and sees the blood and the first thing he does is check in with his mom (who is not home - but off to her day too).

Brother calls 911. Mom returns home.

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Digression: How much stuff was she carrying all the way to the woods under duress? While possible injured? Enough so that they keep finding things - lunch, purse, books? Good gracious. One would think she'd have dropped something along the way... And if she did not, perhaps this is the wrong scenario and the other - where she screams later - would explain why she had all her stuff still. Maybe "he" demanded to drive her to school...Maybe she knew him and didn't want him to drive her but went towards the woods (and his vehicle) as a way to keep the peace...

Just noodling it through in another order...while we're brainstorming.

The scream - in my mind - is becoming pretty critical in the timeline and the story...
If her scream was immediate, rather than later in the woods...she may NOT have really known the abductor...

Ok this is the thing neighbor calls 911 at 7:30 that HAs to be after the scream
lol lol

Clint says around 7 30 he saw the guy lead Holly into the woods.

I think we have to wait to see what it says when the 911 calls are released.

[Paulette]

Originally Posted by SweetSkit

Authorities say Holly was outside her house on Swan Johnson Road April 13, between 7:40 – 8 a.m. when an unknown man approached her.

http://www.michellesigona.com/

The 911 call was made at 7:28 am. I have to assume that the time between Clint seeing her with a man walking into the woods and his discovery of blood in the driveway were not the same time as the call was made. A neighbor made a 911 call too.

The screaming may have occurred when she was being assaulted in the woods. The entire assault could have been over before the police even responded to the house - which I think was 7:57 am.

I'd like to know what time she had to be at school - that would pinpoint when she was actually in the driveway. She probably left at the same time everyday. Does anyone know the date school started in August of 2010?

This quote is from the last thread.

[Carla Lashelle]

Originally Posted by cocomod

I am very curious. I have read in several places about the "ex" boyfriend. I read the comments below the ABC article from locals who claim that many "know" who it is. Why hasn't this name leaked out yet? They claim that the FB page is disturbing. I am having a hard time understanding why noone outside of this community has been given a "glimpse" of this "ex"??

You know, the "ex with the bad history" rumor is in just about every missing woman case. Even some where the woman had no ex... So, I don't know. Im thinking its a rumor or something blown out of proportion. LE has not mentioned such a person and you would think if they existed LE would have investigated them.

And just because someone is an ex doesnt mean there is bad blood. I am playing tennis with my ex tonight.

[Eileen730]

Originally Posted by Paulette

The 911 call was made at 7:28 am. I have to assume that the time between Clint seeing her with a man walking into the woods and his discovery of blood in the driveway were not the same time as the call was made. A neighbor made a 911 call too.

The screaming may have occurred when she was being assaulted in the woods. The entire assault could have been over before the police even responded to the house - which I think was 7:57 am.

I'd like to know what time she had to be at school - that would pinpoint when she was actually in the driveway. She probably left at the same time everyday. Does anyone know the date school started in August of 2010?

This quote is from the last thread.

Im not sure but maybe her schedule was diff that day because it was a testing day...

[Emma Peel]

Originally Posted by Eileen730

Ok this is the thing neighbor calls 911 at 7:30 that HAs to be after the scream
lol lol

Clint says around 7 30 he saw the guy lead Holly into the woods.

I think we have to wait to see what it says when the 911 calls are released.

I know I'm confused about scream-timing and two 911 calls timing...

Yet, if we knew the exact timing of these two things ... would we be any smarter?

[lishac23]

Does anyone have an idea of how long it would take to walk through the woods from the point "they" entered the woods to the next/nearest road?

[ensht]

Please keep in mind the brother is guessing on the time. Not his fault nobody wears a watch. The 911 call was recorded and is probably the more accurate time. We're talking 200-300 feet to get near a neighbors house. 2mph is 176 feet per minute. So someone walking could have moved her from the area near the house at 725 to out back behind a neighbors within 3-4 minutes.

Two things that stick out:

Only about 6% of adult abductions happen during the day
Statistics show the attacker either does, or believes he "knows" the person.

Both of these things point to someone she knew IMO. I'll be shocked if this was random.

[vjlaw]

If the brother thought it was the boyfriend leading her to the woods, why would she going to the woods with the boyfriend? What could be the reason he didn't think that odd at a time when she should be going to class? Sorry if this has already been addressed and I missed it.

[SweetSkit]

The only thing with her being hit in the carport or near the garage is she would have yelled right then. The culture here in the woods is "My big brother/daddy will whoop your a** if you even look at me wrong"...with her knowing her brother was inside she would have drawn as much attention to herself as possible thinking he would come out and take care of it.

The only thing I can see that would change this is if he had a gun to her but I cant think of one single young woman I know (in these parts) that wouldnt take pride in proving she could knock his lights out.

For some reason, I just dont think she was very scared of the guy until they got out to wherever it was she started yelling.. :shrugs: Who knows though?!...

[wishing4good]

Originally Posted by vjlaw

If the brother thought it was the boyfriend leading her to the woods, why would she going to the woods with the boyfriend? What could be the reason he didn't think that odd at a time when she should be going to class? Sorry if this has already been addressed and I missed it.

It said the bf hunted the Bobo land so maybe to show her something he found while hunting? And the brother may have been half asleep and not thinking clearly

[10EC_Dad]

Originally Posted by lishac23

Does anyone have an idea of how long it would take to walk through the woods from the point "they" entered the woods to the next/nearest road?

If north, only a few minutes. But why walk north to a car rather than drive the car to the house if you thought she was alone?

However, it seems like they went south if a neighbor heard the scream. I could be wrong on this. South is a pond then woods then a neighbor's house.

To the west is a field that would take 30-45 minutes without a struggle.

If an immediate escape from the area was the plan, I think he would have just driven to the house.

[SweetSkit]

Will Nunley says they are scaling back volunteers due to threat of severe weather but the bad news is it is just windy right now and the severe weather is not supposed to get here until midnight at a 30% chance was the last I heard...(My words-not his)

http://twitter.com/#!/willnunley

[Eileen730]

Originally Posted by Emma Peel

I know I'm confused about scream-timing and two 911 calls timing...

Yet, if we knew the exact timing of these two things ... would we be any smarter?

Im confused also lol.

I think if we knew the exact timing we migh be a tad smarter then we are now lol

[Emma Peel]

I have forgotten why we think we know the time of the reported scream 911 call.

Was that a presser or an article?

Thanks for any help if you happen to remember the source.

[texasgirl2]

I just wanted to point out something regarding the boyfriend's FB. Not only has noone posted on his wall since Holly has been missing...but noone has EVER posted on his wall. Most likely, his settings keep all of the wall posts hidden and he is the only one who can see them. He may have done this because his grandmother (I think that's who she is) is on his FB.

MOO

[T4Tide]

There's also a possiblity (which I believe I read somewhere but cannot recall where so it is simply rumor/hearsay) that CB wears contacts, and did not have them in when he looked out the window, since it was early morning and a lot of people don't sleep in them. I know that my eyesight is good enough to make it around my home and I could definitely see figures outside. If I looked outside without my contacts or glasses, and saw two boys, I would assume both of them were my sons, because that is who I am expecting to see. However, it could be that neither, one, or both are my sons. This would make very good sense as so why when he saw Holly out the window, he just assumed it was her BF and left it at that.

[Eileen730]

Originally Posted by 10EC_Dad

If north, only a few minutes. But why walk north to a car rather than drive the car to the house if you thought she was alone?

However, it seems like they went south if a neighbor heard the scream. I could be wrong on this. South is a pond then woods then a neighbor's house.

To the west is a field that would take 30-45 minutes without a struggle.

If an immediate escape from the area was the plan, I think he would have just driven to the house.

Here is a map A is their home!

there are 3 neighbors to the south!

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0...4116221f893719

[cluciano63]

I wonder if LE think this guy has a weapon; they've never said anything about "armed and dangerous" on the loose, kind of thing...

[SweetSkit]

Originally Posted by Emma Peel

I have forgotten why we think we know the time of the reported scream 911 call.

Was that a presser or an article?

Thanks for any help if you happen to remember the source.

I think it was the sheriff saying that in the presser erm....2 days ago maybe?!..

[wishing4good]

Originally Posted by Eileen730

Im confused also lol.

I think if we knew the exact timing we migh be a tad smarter then we are now lol

7:30 Neighbor calls 911

7:43 Clint Bobo calls

What could you gain from the times?

[T4Tide]

Originally Posted by vjlaw

If the brother thought it was the boyfriend leading her to the woods, why would she going to the woods with the boyfriend? What could be the reason he didn't think that odd at a time when she should be going to class? Sorry if this has already been addressed and I missed it.

I do not know the BF's schedule, but it is very common to hunt here. Maybe the BF isn't in school, or didn't have class that day. I could totally see Holly and her BF chatting while walking towards the woods and then departing each other there. He could have been heading into the woods to hunt, and they choose the tree line to say their goodbyes. While I am skeptical about a lot of things, that really isn't uncommon in the south.

[Carla Lashelle]

Originally Posted by SweetSkit

The only thing with her being hit in the carport or near the garage is she would have yelled right then.

Thats why you pop them BEFORE they can scream. Possibly too if it was someone she knew she woudlnt just scream, and then he popped her.

[Eileen730]

Originally Posted by Emma Peel

I have forgotten why we think we know the time of the reported scream 911 call.

Was that a presser or an article?

Thanks for any help if you happen to remember the source.

I dont know it was posted on here not to long ago maybe its in thread 7 towards the end...