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Old 04-20-2011, 02:52 PM
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I don't know... witnesses put him at the scene, including an FBI agent working another case, and there was forensic evidence etc. Since polygraph tests are not admissible in court anyway I dont think it matters whether you pass or fail one. He passed but was found guilty by a jury in 5 hours of deliberation.

my point in mentioning this is that yeah he was given a test and passed but he was still guilty!
oh. I read your post as he was innocent and the jury found him guilty. i wouldn't trust anyone's answer regarding failing or passing a poly.
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:53 PM
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I don't for a second believe someone happened upon her.

How do we know that she had clinicals that day? Did LE release this in a presser?

Who could have known before that day? Could she have posted it in a FB status update?
1) happened upon her: I was throwing this out as a possibility. At this point I don't see how anything is out of the realm of possibility

2) clinicals were reported in the main stream media... that is that she was in the clinical portion of the program. I do not have a link handy. It was not stated in a presser that I recall.

3)as to who could have known she had a test/her schedule... not sure but the possibilities are endless including someone (even a stranger.. we just do not know) casing the house

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Old 04-20-2011, 02:57 PM
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Surprisingly, the story for the case on AMW is one of those goofy ones. I am surprised actually that AMW has such bad and downright wrong info. Especially since it was updated a couple days ago. I can see having some incorrect stuff the first day or two... but a week later???

From AMW... "Cops say Holly may have been abducted from her home during a home invasion in Decatur County, Tenn. at about 7:30 a.m. She was last seen by a family member who said she was being dragged by a man across the carport at her home, according to police." A WEEK LATER THEY STILL HAVE THIS UP ???



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I can only go by what LE has said. That's the closest to facts we have so far. Let me add this though. LE was probably only asked the first time around specifically about the BF and brother's status. What I'm trying to say is that LE may have made that cleared statement about numerous people had they been asked. Numerous people could have been given polys and now no one is ruled out. I don't want anyone to think I'm pointing the finger specifically at anyone. But I would give my right arm to know who all was poly'd and what the results were.
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No one should think that. You stated yourself extremely well.

I'd give my right arm also, for the same)
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Holly has 253 candles from 5 countries. Let's get that number into the thousands.
Ok, I lit one...think I'll light a real one here too. That feels like the right thing to do. Maybe some incense too. Amen
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:03 PM
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I can only go by what LE has said. That's the closest to facts we have so far. Let me add this though. LE was probably only asked the first time around specifically about the BF and brother's status. What I'm trying to say is that LE may have made that cleared statement about numerous people had they been asked. Numerous people could have been given polys and now no one is ruled out. I don't want anyone to think I'm pointing the finger specifically at anyone. But I would give my right arm to know who all was poly'd and what the results were.
Me too, on both counts. I would love to know who, if anyone has actually taken the test, and what the results were, even though I believe poly's to be junk science for the most part. The TBI Investigator is the one that said suspect was the wrong word, and they should have been referred to as eyewitnesses. So that's what I'm going with. I will have to go back a couple threads to bring up his statements, as the GMA vids have now been pulled down or simply do not play. (Which is enough to make me go hmmmm. But that's why I transcribe.)
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2) clinicals were reported in the main stream media... that is that she was in the clinical portion of the program. I do not have a link handy. It was not stated in a presser that I recall.
Not sure if she was in the process of leaving for a clinical (i.e., at a hospital or care home etc.), or going to classes:
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McCoy said Bobo had already begun her clinical training program at local hospitals

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...6883ad987f1815
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At the time of her disappearance, Bobo was preparing to leave for classes for her nursing clinical training program.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/17/hu...rsing-student/
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:09 PM
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I find the sequence interesting of people being cleared right off the bat, then polys evidently given, then it changes to no one is ruled out? Did the polys cause the status change?
Did LE say certain people were cleared from off the bat, or was that just erroneous reporting? I'm trying to figure out if the status really did change or whether people were given wrong information initially.
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Did LE say certain people were cleared from off the bat, or was that just erroneous reporting? I'm trying to figure out if the status really did change or whether people were given wrong information initially.
One agency cleared people and another agency stepped in an uncleared people. Hope that makes sense.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:12 PM
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I went to LPN school and when we had a test we would report to the school for the test. We did not have clinicals every day. We had them twice a week.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:12 PM
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I've been lurking at WS for MONTHS now, decided to join today. I've been following this case from the beginning. This story is just heartbreaking.

On to my point: It looks as though the BF is active in searches every day, with his family, according to the FB page of his brother. So, to me it would speak loudly that if the BF's brother is talking, but the BF is silent, that LE has asked him to keep his mouth shut.

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Did LE say certain people were cleared from off the bat, or was that just erroneous reporting?
I don't remember specific quote marks. Could be bad reporting. Will have to go back and check.
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"Well, I don't think it's changed. I think obviously uh, both of those people would have been witnesses, especially her brother, uh, being the person that last saw her, uh, but I can tell you that we have not eliminated anyone from this investigation. Uh, so I don't know that they were ever considered suspects, more probably witnesses, uh, but at this point, it's too early in the investigation to clear anyone."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42648235...me_and_courts/

This is Gwyn's statement. This is why I don't think they have been referred to as cleared, because they never should have been called suspects, per his own statement. Another thing that I wonder about...maybe the local LE (sheriff) has begun clearing people for their own records, but TBI has not. They are working together, but not neccesarily all on the same page? (That's a scary thought, considering.)
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Can we still discuss the public info on her page? For example, her wall is locked, we can't discuss that, because we can't see it unless someone is using a special program, but her info, such as work, school, liked pages and that, is all public. Can we still discuss those things?

Sorry, to be a PITA.
Good question NMK! I don't know lol. I'm asking and will let you know. :-)
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:16 PM
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I don't remember specific quote marks. Could be bad reporting. Will have to go back and check.
initially they were 100% cleared.
"The boyfriend is not a suspect. The brother is not a suspect," Mehr said. "We are confident of that."
4/16/2011
http://m.knoxnews.com/news/2011/apr/...no-sign-woman/
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Not sure if she was in the process of leaving for a clinical (i.e., at a hospital or care home etc.), or going to classes:

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Bobo was on her way to campus to take a test when she was taken.

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McCoy said Bobo had already begun her clinical training program at local hospitals. He called her a natural nurse, soothing and gentle with the sick.
"She was so good with the patients," McCoy said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42622647...me_and_courts/
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I think it would be rash for any LE to say people are cleared when there has not been even one POI identified; it doesn't mean that everyone is a suspect or POI, just that no one can be considered 100% cleared at this point.
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One agency cleared people and another agency stepped in an uncleared people. Hope that makes sense.
Yes, it does. I thought it was kinda cray cray saying anything about people being cleared in the first 24 hours. I mean, come on.
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Quick question, I keep getting an error message on some of the Good Morning America vids related to Holly and others that just won't play, even though no error message.

Can someone else check real quick and see if they load or if they were pulled down? TIA

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/sear...woman-13389410
the other vids are linked at bottom of page.

(ETA: I'm asking cuz it could be my internet connection. 5 wireless devices, and 1 poor overworked router, it's about to just go on strike today, so it could be me.)
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initially they were 100% cleared.
"The boyfriend is not a suspect. The brother is not a suspect," Mehr said. "We are confident of that."
4/16/2011
http://m.knoxnews.com/news/2011/apr/...no-sign-woman/
Thank you for posting these and saving me from searching!
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Decatur County Sheriff Roy Wyatt said investigators checked out a man arrested on charges of stalking two Jackson women and found no connection to Bobo's case.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20...WS25/104200313

I guess this answer one of my question on this guy for now


http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20...text|FRONTPAGE
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Quick question, I keep getting an error message on some of the Good Morning America vids related to Holly and others that just won't play, even though no error message.

Can someone else check real quick and see if they load or if they were pulled down? TIA

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/sear...woman-13389410
the other vids are linked at bottom of page.
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I've been lurking at WS for MONTHS now, decided to join today. I've been following this case from the beginning. This story is just heartbreaking.

On to my point: It looks as though the BF is active in searches every day, with his family, according to the FB page of his brother. So, to me it would speak loudly that if the BF's brother is talking, but the BF is silent, that LE has asked him to keep his mouth shut.

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No prob. I've got a word document with most of the direct quotes saved. It might still take me a minute to find, but if they said it, I've probably got it.

Nope, no OCD here at all. LOL.
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"Well, I don't think it's changed. I think obviously uh, both of those people would have been witnesses, especially her brother, uh, being the person that last saw her, uh, but I can tell you that we have not eliminated anyone from this investigation. Uh, so I don't know that they were ever considered suspects, more probably witnesses, uh, but at this point, it's too early in the investigation to clear anyone."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42648235...me_and_courts/

This is Gwyn's statement. This is why I don't think they have been referred to as cleared, because they never should have been called suspects, per his own statement. Another thing that I wonder about...maybe the local LE (sheriff) has begun clearing people for their own records, but TBI has not. They are working together, but not neccesarily all on the same page? (That's a scary thought, considering.)
TBI director Gwyn a couple of days ago:


"Everybody's a suspect," Gwyn said. "We have not cleared anyone."

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20...olly-Bobo-case
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