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Old 02-09-2010, 11:25 AM
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What ch'a Think? I like the ears. I always find it odd when they have a picture of the decedent alive. Anyhoo,

Decedent's NamUs File:
https://identifyus.org/cases/6521

Rayfield Blow:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._rayfield.html

Things that stand out to me: The mole, and his distincitve ears. His hair line seems different, but I have no idea when the pictures were taken. So, what cha' think?

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Old 02-09-2010, 11:37 AM
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I think they look a lot alike, but I think the eyebrows are off. Eyes are much different. If the hair line and amount of hair on the JD is accurate he has more hair than the missing man- who looks a lot more bald ontop. The circumstances of the case also make me lean towards a rule out.

The missing person was last seen at his mothers in 2006. Even though he was homeless, he was still in contact with his mother. The John Doe was found in 2009 and died as a result of accidently lighting himself on fire. It's possible, but hard to imagine why he would not have made contact with his mother for three years if his death hadn't occured somewhere about the time he was last seen in 2006.

I assume the address listed: 2335 N. 13th St Philadelphia was a vacant building? I didn't look that far because the 3 years was just too great for me between time missing and time found.

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Old 02-09-2010, 11:52 AM
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I did a bit more digging into the circumstances with the decedent, and he apparently killed his girlfriend and one of her children before accidentally (or Karma) lighting himself on fire. What a POS.

I don't think this is Mr. Blow either.
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Old 02-09-2010, 01:57 PM
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What ch'a Think? I like the ears. I always find it odd when they have a picture of the decedent alive. Anyhoo,

Decedent's NamUs File:
https://identifyus.org/cases/6521

Rayfield Blow:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._rayfield.html

Things that stand out to me: The mole, and his distincitve ears. His hair line seems different, but I have no idea when the pictures were taken. So, what cha' think?
They look pretty close, but I don't think it's him. A couple of things that set them apart:
  • The eyes - Blow's upper eyelids are more prominent. Even if the photo caught him mid-blink, you can see that the ridges above his eyes form a higher arc.
  • The horizontal crease between the eyes is more prominent on the UID.
  • The tops of the UID's ears are larger. Blow's ears extend out further at the bottom than they do at the top.
  • The UID has a slightly broader jawline.
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:23 PM
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Original news story here

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6670962

The man is described in the article as a New Jersey man. He had a son by the victim, and the camera also lingered on a silver Hyundai Accent as though that might have been the perp's car. (I couldn't' tell from the plates if they were NJ, Pennsylvania or something else). No other real clues and nothing further online.
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He was using a false identity. They were able to find 3 aliases he used and they believe the decedent may have been from the Virgin Islands.
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PA - Philadelphia - Male (NamUs #6521), 25-40, Feb 2009

this UID was first discussed in this thread as a possible match:

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...t=philadelphia

here is the Namus link:

https://identifyus.org/cases/6521

I wanted to set up a general discussion thread for this man.

the UID was found dead on Feb 21, 2009 after "accidentally" igniting himself. the UID is described as being between 25-40, 5'9" and 182 lbs. he is shown with what looks like the beginnings of or very closely cropped almost Fu-Manchu type mustache.

post-mortem pic:

I did not post a warning on this thread as the face picture of the UID looks like it was taken while he was alive. very strange. he is standing with his eyes open as if it were a picture found on an ID card.

if it is post-mortem, then considering his manner of death, they got a great face pic of him.

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this missing person caught my attention, Trevor Anthony Shand. he is not in Namus but this is his profile at Nampn:

http://www.nampn.org/cases/shand_trevor.html

Trevor was reported missing from Baltimore, MD on November 12, 2008 and was described as very depressed.

Trevor was 46 y.o., 5'9" and weighed 170 lbs. He was missing just three months prior to the UID's death. Philadelphia is not all that far from Baltimore and is accessible by highways or rail.

the pattern baldness looks the same to me.

any thoughts on this (or any other possible match)?
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Old 05-08-2011, 02:15 PM
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I think the photo is really a computer generated image. It seems to line up perfectly with the sketch of the deceased they also posted on Namus.
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this missing person caught my attention, Trevor Anthony Shand. he is not in Namus but this is his profile at Nampn:

http://www.nampn.org/cases/shand_trevor.html

Trevor was reported missing from Baltimore, MD on November 12, 2008 and was described as very depressed.

Trevor was 46 y.o., 5'9" and weighed 170 lbs. He was missing just three months prior to the UID's death. Philadelphia is not all that far from Baltimore and is accessible by highways or rail.

the pattern baldness looks the same to me.

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The UID has quite a bit of droop in his earlobes. Trevor has no earlobe droop.
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Old 05-08-2011, 03:37 PM
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I attempted (for the first time) to do a side by side but for whatever reason I was not able to click the pics and get them on here.

as for the ears, Trevor's pic is taken from a distance so I can't tell how closely they resemble one another.

looking closely at both the sketch and image of the UID, the hair patterns are different between the two. if the sketch is correct, then the pattern baldness does not match Trevor. however, the color image seems (to me at least) to match Trevor's hairline.
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The picture of the decedant is a driver's license photo.
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The picture of the decedant is a driver's license photo.
if it's a DL then it should have had a name attached to it. if it was someone else's name, you'd think they would have said that.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:08 PM
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The ME told me they were able to confirm he had at least 3 aliases and they thought he could be from the Virgin Islands.

PA Missing Persons has a lot more info about this guy, including the aliases he used and another picture.

http://www.pennsylvaniamissing.com/p...090900784.html
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I guess it pays to cross-reference all the sites Snuf!

Trevor (my guy) is a very British name which I could see coming from a place like Jamaica. however, if this guy (the UID) was using aliases of Bernard and Desmond Singh, then the context sounds more like he was from Trinidad and Tobago or Guyana which are former British colonies with significant East Indian populations.

in any event, since the UID was the former boyfriend of the woman who owned the place in Philly, then the UID is not likely Trevor Anthony Shand, who was in Baltimore only 3 months before this man's death.
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