Websleuths
Go Back   Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community > Featured Case Discussion > Caylee Anthony 2 years old > Trial Archive - Threads and References

Notices

Trial Archive - Threads and References Look here for trial information you missed! Trial threads are moved here after court is over for the day.


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #501  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:25 PM
GiantPickle's Avatar
GiantPickle GiantPickle is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,565
I have missed most of the day - hopefully I can catch up fast.....just wanted to say hello to everyone.
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to GiantPickle For This Useful Post:
  #502  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:26 PM
momtective's Avatar
momtective momtective is offline
Lifetime WS Non-Mod
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my own reality...it's nicer here.
Posts: 12,021
Possible mistrial? Someone please explain.
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to momtective For This Useful Post:
  #503  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:26 PM
ZsaZsa ZsaZsa is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 8,720
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
To the defense: You can't impeach an expert about his expert opinion unless you have another expert who came to a different conclusion.
I heard him say that to JA, but what happens when the SA knows more about the subject than the expert? It would seem proper to be able to go on questioning and challenging his findings.... JMO
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to ZsaZsa For This Useful Post:
  #504  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:26 PM
Eidetic's Avatar
Eidetic Eidetic is offline
Open your eyes to the millions of lies that they tell you every day.
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Meeting with spiritual advisors and therapists
Posts: 3,078
KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV
Logan never saw the evidence from trunk and state says his lab would not be able to test it if he had gotten it

31 minutes ago

KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV
FBI special agent Nick Savage is waiting in wings upstairs.. State is taking on Logan's expertise ina big way..

33 minutes ago

KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Logan resigned under controversy, according to reports, in 2008 from a Washington State lab because of doubts over its DUI test results

2 hours ago
__________________

"She's safe. She's in God's loving arms. In a lot of ways, I'm content by the fact that she will never have to have her heart broken, or see the constant negativity that our society breeds -nor will she ever be abused or taken advantage of." -Casey Anthony
"They just want Caylee back, that's all they're worried about right now,"- Casey Anthony

"I'm so angry and disappointed in our country's legal system, it makes me sick." -Casey Anthony
"I guess you could say I am living for free off the kindness of strangers." -Casey Anthony
"(Both of my parents are) not working, still, and yet, have the means to travel all over the country and don't feel that they have to explain where or why. Odd, right? -Casey Anthony

I am so sorry Caylee.
The Following 18 Users Say Thank You to Eidetic For This Useful Post:
  #505  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:26 PM
Macushla's Avatar
Macushla Macushla is offline
Our Royal Himalayan Gopher Hounds
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orlando, FL area
Posts: 2,433
Does anyone think Simms caused this problem, asking questions that almost opened the door for the State, because she is not used to the nuances of a criminal trial?
__________________
Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
Euripides
  #506  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:26 PM
newsjunkie's Avatar
newsjunkie newsjunkie is offline
Not to be confused with A_News_Junkie
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,546
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenTeam View Post
Not sure why this is so hard to figure out . . . it seems if the defense asked if he could replicate the test, why can't Ashton ask more about that?
If I understand correctly (correct me if I'm wrong), it is because it is not the DT's burden to prove anything. It is the State's. So their witness didn't HAVE to test anything and can't be impeached or whatever due to not testing it.
__________________
“Life is the most spectacular show on earth
― Sara Gruen
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to newsjunkie For This Useful Post:
  #507  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:26 PM
NavySubMom NavySubMom is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
To the defense: You can't impeach an expert about his expert opinion unless you have another expert who came to a different conclusion.
So for this case in particular, does this mean they cannot Impeach Dr. Vass's expert opinion, when they themselves do not have another expert opinion?? If that is the case, i understand what is going on here now.
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to NavySubMom For This Useful Post:
  #508  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
HotButteredGrits's Avatar
HotButteredGrits HotButteredGrits is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 110
What scares me is that if it's a mistrial because of the prosecutors mistake, then it's possible for the defense to argue double-jeopardy and she could win that and walk.
  #509  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
stilettos stilettos is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,847
This dud is WAY out of his element. I do not think that the DT prepared him for the bulldog JA can be.
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to stilettos For This Useful Post:
  #510  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
Dr.Fessel's Avatar
Dr.Fessel Dr.Fessel is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: South Central Illinois
Posts: 10,904
For that guy to say he could not replicate the test is udder nonsense. Why don't they just strike that answer or go ahead and let the State impeach him? Maybe that is what the judge is waiting for, the State to ask to strike that answer?
__________________
.............Any man's death diminishes me because I am
involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
it tolls for thee. . . .
from Meditation 17
by John Donne
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Dr.Fessel For This Useful Post:
  #511  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
Beyond Belief's Avatar
Beyond Belief Beyond Belief is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Florida's Treasure Coast
Posts: 14,555
if this ends in a mistrial how long will it take to reschedule?
  #512  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
Rallihanna's Avatar
Rallihanna Rallihanna is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 813
I really don't think they're going to call a mistrial because JA put pieces of evidence up on the witness stand.
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Rallihanna For This Useful Post:
  #513  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
LadyL's Avatar
LadyL LadyL is offline
Until they all come home
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 7,277
judge takes a 10 minute recess and tells both sides to review case law - I think he just needed a breather from the circus
__________________
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to LadyL For This Useful Post:
  #514  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
TotallyObsessed's Avatar
TotallyObsessed TotallyObsessed is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 6,108
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
Does anyone think Simms caused this problem, asking questions that almost opened the door for the State, because she is not used to the nuances of a criminal trial?
Well, it is either ineptness...or something more sinister.
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to TotallyObsessed For This Useful Post:
  #515  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
Steely Dan's Avatar
Steely Dan Steely Dan is offline
Emutionally Disturbed
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Rochester, New York
Posts: 26,169
The talking heads on Wesh just said that the defense may have opened the door to switching the burden of proof from the state to the defense and it could be very close to a mistrial.



Please someone fill me in on this. I miss one half hour and it could be the most important half hour of the trial.
__________________
Buttons Updated 04-02-2014



Thanks Steadfast for the spinning Buffalo Bills Emu

Made by HD ----->

Warning: Some buttons may be offensive!
BAD WORDS AND OFFENSIVE MATERIAL
AND STUFF LIKE THAT THERE!!


The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to Steely Dan For This Useful Post:
  #516  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 PM
ohiogirl's Avatar
ohiogirl ohiogirl is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,788
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dysthymia View Post
I just heard Sunny Hostin on HLN asking why didn't the defense just embrace the body in the trunk and say George put her there.

I've said that and wondered why they didn't do so all this time, too. Neither side can prove who put Caylee in the trunk and even though it's pretty absolutely clear that Casey put Caylee's body there, her defense could still have been that it was George who did it. The defense wouldn't have to ineptly hammer away with one nervous, ill prepared expert after another.

At least, that's the way I feel after having to take excedrin every day now.

Even though I'm of the opinion that Caylee died as a result of an accident, I also believe that the "accident" was a form of negligence and/or abuse caused by Casey's complete lack of putting Caylee's safety and needs first.

I think about little Caylee Marie Anthony every time I watch this trial or read about it. Her death is heartbreaking. She deserved a chance to grow up and live her life. God bless her soul.
IMO, for some reason JB was bound and determined to have RK involved in this in some way. I agree, just admit she was in the trunk and maybe KC didn't know right away or something. But, in his arrogance that he was going to get her a complete acquittal, he made his story too convoluted and complicated. That my opinion, and I'm sticking too it.
__________________
"Crack up the music and dance!"
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to ohiogirl For This Useful Post:
  #517  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:28 PM
mitzi's Avatar
mitzi mitzi is offline
Watch us lie to cover for 'Princess'
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,329
Do we know where HHJP went?

Did he go to his chambers, like Judge Judy does to make a phone call....perhaps to a Florida Supreme Court Judge friend of his to get their take on this?
__________________


Justice For Caylee So sue me CA!
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to mitzi For This Useful Post:
  #518  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:28 PM
Clearly Confused's Avatar
Clearly Confused Clearly Confused is offline
Oh my head!
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,276
This DT does not want to finish this trial. They know they are going to lose. This is insane. This is not ineffective counsel, this is trying for a mistrial. So sad this is what our justice system comes down to.
  #519  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:28 PM
Mountain_Kat's Avatar
Mountain_Kat Mountain_Kat is offline
Heca, firimar!
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Forest Dweller.
Posts: 8,053
Quote:
Originally Posted by momtective View Post
Possible mistrial? Someone please explain.
State possibly shifting burden of proof to the defense, I think. But that is allowed in some cases...we're just waiting to see how HHJP rules.
__________________
People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent. ~Bob Dylan
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Mountain_Kat For This Useful Post:
  #520  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:28 PM
nursebeeme's Avatar
nursebeeme nursebeeme is offline
WS Super Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: sipping coffee at the Purple Rose Theatre
Posts: 52,141
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
Does anyone think Simms caused this problem, asking questions that almost opened the door for the State, because she is not used to the nuances of a criminal trial?
yes, I think Simms made a boo boo and wesh talking heads saying that hhjp trying to save the trial from a mistrial
__________________
This bee my opinion
  #521  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:28 PM
dog.gone.cute's Avatar
dog.gone.cute dog.gone.cute is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 7,374



__________________
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to dog.gone.cute For This Useful Post:
  #522  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:29 PM
momtective's Avatar
momtective momtective is offline
Lifetime WS Non-Mod
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my own reality...it's nicer here.
Posts: 12,021
B Sheifer discussing possible mistrial on wftv http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to momtective For This Useful Post:
  #523  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:29 PM
Wishbone's Avatar
Wishbone Wishbone is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,534
Oh, so the DT once again puts this whole case in jeopardy of a mistrial.
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to Wishbone For This Useful Post:
  #524  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:29 PM
TotallyObsessed's Avatar
TotallyObsessed TotallyObsessed is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 6,108
OK. Is the DT really, really trying for a mistrial. They keep cracking that door. And I don't blame JA for wanting to ram a Mack Truck through it. This team of DT lawyers is just about the equivalent of Larry, Curly and Moe.
The Following 15 Users Say Thank You to TotallyObsessed For This Useful Post:
  #525  
Old 06-23-2011, 02:29 PM
ami's Avatar
ami ami is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,128
Quote:
Originally Posted by HotButteredGrits View Post
What scares me is that if it's a mistrial because of the prosecutors mistake, then it's possible for the defense to argue double-jeopardy and she could win that and walk.
I think HHJP is being so careful right now exactly because of this. So let's not worry if he rules in favor of the defense on this one. The Prosecution has tons of evidence - they can afford to let this lame witness say what he wants, even if it's anti-Vass. Vass can come in later and refute anything this guy says anyway. JA was right to say he'd let go of this line of questioning.
The Following 18 Users Say Thank You to ami For This Useful Post:
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2011.06.27 TRIAL Day Twenty-nine (Afternoon Session) beach Trial Archive - Threads and References 3608 06-27-2011 07:16 PM
2011.06.27 TRIAL Day Twenty-nine (Morning Session) beach Trial Archive - Threads and References 2158 06-27-2011 12:03 PM
2011.06.21 TRIAL Day Twenty-four (Afternoon Session) beach Trial Archive - Threads and References 2435 06-21-2011 05:56 PM
2011.06.17 TRIAL Day Twenty-one (Afternoon Session) beach Trial Archive - Threads and References 2279 06-17-2011 04:51 PM
2011.06.16 TRIAL Day Twenty (Afternoon Session) beach Trial Archive - Threads and References 1411 06-16-2011 04:25 PM


© Copyright Websleuths 1999-2012 New To Site? Need Help?
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:06 AM.

Advertisements

Pre-Order Imperfect Justice: Prosecuting Casey Anthony today!