WA~Jet pilot, Weldon "Marc" Gilbert has right to view child porn he created in jail

[White Rain]

"Kids crying out for help and in pain..."

ATLANTA — A pilot from Washington state was arrested in Atlanta this week on charges he sexually assaulted at least 20 boys at his home over a six-year period and videotaped much of the abuse.
Police and FBI agents arrested Weldon Marc Gilbert, 47, in Atlanta on Thursday and charged him with nine sex crimes, including child rape, child molestation and sexual exploitation of a minor. The Lake Tapps, Wash., resident and pilot for the United Parcel Service was in jail in Atlanta late Friday awaiting extradition to Washington.
Pierce County, Wash., sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said more charges are likely. Police are reviewing more than 100 videotapes and DVDs found at Gilbert's home, many of which contain "very disturbing graphic images," Troyer said.
"We just started looking through the tapes, and we've already seen 20 different victims," Troyer told The News Tribune in Tacoma, Wash. "Kids are crying out for help and in pain in some of the videos."
more at link http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307859,00.html

[Taximom]

So how did he have access to all these boys? Must be a coach or something.

[Taximom]

Smiling scum picture here:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article_...storyid=105796

[Taximom]

Troyer says police believe Gilbert would take the boys on helicopter rides and then get them intoxicated at his house before tying them down, beating them and performing sex acts on them with the video recorder rolling.

Investigators began looking into Gilbert on Tuesday after two men reported they suspected their younger brothers were being molested by Gilbert.

A alleged victim, now 18, told police he was molested by Gilbert beginning in 2001 after his father died. The teen also gave police a videotape this week showing Gilbert abusing the alleged victim's 12-year-old brother.

Troyer says Gilbert was in Atlanta for UPS training. (more at link above)

[kylie]

Honestly, we have to make the punishment so bad and public that these guys will think twice.............

[Taximom]

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/xml/abtus...ortnov2003.pdf
Above link mentions "Marc Gilbert" as President of Spencer Aircraft in Puyallup, WA. According to topix forum posts people that went to school with him call him "Marc" and according the link below he was a millionaire.
http://www.komoradio.com/news/local/10991346.html
"He gave them alcohol. We don't know if there's drugs involved," said Troyer. "He had rooms specifically designated for this. He was an intelligent man. He was a wealthy man. He put all of those things together, and he was able to do what he needed to do to get what he wanted."

Investigators said the footage shows little boys crying out during the especially malicious attacks with his hands or an assortment of paddles. The beatings often left welts, bruises and cuts on the victims who were as young as 12 years old, detectives said.

"Sex abuse and some of the things that are in here are pretty heinous on their own, but (there is also) the

This is Spencer Aircraft's website:
http://www.spenceraircraft.com/

[Taximom]

http://www.thenewstribune.com/front/...ry/194568.html

The alleged victim said Gilbert sometimes would give him money and that he’d accompanied the pilot on trips to Hong Kong, Thailand and Europe. He said he later discovered that Gilbert was videotaping the abuse, according to court documents.
The teenager provided detectives with a videotape this week that also shows Gilbert abusing the alleged victim’s brother, who turns 13 on Sunday, the affidavit states.
Detectives served a search warrant Wednesday at Gilbert’s home in the 2900 block of 211th Avenue East on Tapps Island.
They seized videotapes, DVDs, CDs, floppy disks, sex toys, paddles, blindfolds, ropes, bondage implements, camera gear, a computer and two handguns, according to court documents.
Authorities tracked Gilbert to Atlanta after learning that he had job-related training there.
He was in jail there late Friday awaiting extradition to Pierce County for arraignment, Troyer said.
Seattle attorney John Henry Browne said Friday that he’s been hired to represent Gilbert. Browne said he talked briefly to Gilbert by telephone and told him not to fight extradition.
“I advised him that the best thing for him to do is get back here and take care of this,” the attorney said.
He said he couldn’t offer much comment on the charges because he hadn’t had time to research them thoroughly.
Troyer asked any other alleged victims to come forward. “Our detectives want to know who they are,” he said.

[Taximom]

A female neighbor said she saw lots of teenage boys come and go but she just thought they were friends of the two boys that lived there. I wonder who they are and what they've had to endure. (KOMO video at above link)

[Taximom]

Myspace site that uses his email "tappsflyer @ aol.com"
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=10826102

Not much there, but his age is listed as "37". Hmph.

[Taximom]

LOL I'm talking to myself here. LOL

[KatK]

I'm reading about it now.

[Opie]

Whatever happens to this guy is too good for him.

[SeriouslySearching]

I can't talk...I am just gagging. Can't even read this thread.

[Wrinkles]

I'm reading, Taximom. Just got a break to do so.

Off with this guy's "heads" as soon as possible!

W

[CaliKid]

Originally Posted by kylie

Honestly, we have to make the punishment so bad and public that these guys will think twice.............

Something like this deserves the DP.

[Filly]

FREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://www.pilotbusiness.com/pilots.htmlListed as one of these business people.

[believe09]

Please, please do not allow him to post bail...clearly he is a "flight risk" pun intended...I mean this guy is not alone in this-I bet there is a ring.

[Filly]

Seems that Weldon Gilberrt's own mother found it odd her son was allowing young men to live with him. Denial much?http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._pilot05m.html

[Nova]

The appeal of having sex with children simply escapes me.

But even more baffling is finding any enjoyment in sex when the other person is screaming with pain.

[IrishMist]

Originally Posted by Nova

The appeal of having sex with children simply escapes me.

But even more baffling is finding any enjoyment in sex when the other person is screaming with pain.

Rape isn't the same as sex, and it is about power. I would imagine the person screaming in pain would just heighten the perpetrator's sense of power, and hence, his pleasure.

[Filly]

Originally Posted by Nova

The appeal of having sex with children simply escapes me.

But even more baffling is finding any enjoyment in sex when the other person is screaming with pain.

I so wish the appeal escaped every single freak that's out there hurting kids, Nova. Who knows what these people get out of it, but it's obvious they can't even begin to control their impulses. They all need to be locked up. First Offense. No questions. No bail. Nada. Imagine the horror for these children for the rest of their lives thanks to this freak.

[Taximom]

This guy is just like John Wayne Gacy. He got enjoyment out of torturing his victims too. They have their own special category.

I hope there aren't any missing young boys where he's travelled or lived.

I feel sorry for his mom.

[Filly]

Originally Posted by Taximom

This guy is just like John Wayne Gacy. He got enjoyment out of torturing his victims too. They have their own special category.

I hope there aren't any missing young boys where he's travelled or lived.

I feel sorry for his mom.

Heaven help us. That name "Gacy" alone is frightening. He's lived as far as I could see in Sumner, Pullman, Bonney Lake all in Washington. McMinnville, OR. Then in, Oxnard, Lake Arrowhead, and Burbank, California. No doubt this guy has been to places like Thailand and such. I mean a millionaire with an airplane, helicopter can go anywhere. You are kind to feel for his mom, Taxi Mom. I don't. Then again, how was she supposed to know. She's probably elderly obviously. Hopefully they'll get the rest of the freaks involved in this because these pedophiles with pornography they can't help but share it. All around poor impulse control.

[Nova]

Originally Posted by Filly

I so wish the appeal escaped every single freak that's out there hurting kids, Nova. Who knows what these people get out of it, but it's obvious they can't even begin to control their impulses. They all need to be locked up. First Offense. No questions. No bail. Nada. Imagine the horror for these children for the rest of their lives thanks to this freak.

You'll get no argument from me.

[Nova]

Originally Posted by IrishMist

Rape isn't the same as sex, and it is about power. I would imagine the person screaming in pain would just heighten the perpetrator's sense of power, and hence, his pleasure.

I'm sure you're right that the power and even outright sadism are the appeal, I'm just saying it's incomprehensible to me.

Rape obviously isn't the same as sex for most of us, IM. And I understand why the "rape is violence not sex" argument is an important political distinction, because somebody had to find a way to get juries to stop thinking of rape as a "sex act" between two participants and to start recognizing that rape is violently imposed on one person by another.

But in fact, and whether or not it's p.c. to say so, sex for most people involves a certain amount of play with dominance and submission. That's why we have centuries of art concerned with "seduction." (There was a movement in the 70s among radical feminists to construct perfectly egalitarian sex acts, with nobody "on top," both partners equally active, etc. I think most now admit it was not only awkward, but not very hot.)

Even acknowledging that much, however, I think most of us have a very deep instinct to comfort and console a child who cries out in pain. That someone would not only fail to comfort, but prolong the pain... It's hard to imagine he is of the same species as we (even though I know he is).