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Old 07-22-2011, 12:50 PM
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Bombing & Shooting at Youth Camp in Oslo, Terrorist Suspected

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...nment-building

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14252515
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:58 PM
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Another incident appears to be targeting the PM. It was just posted 33 minutes ago on twitter. First the building his office was in is bombed then this....ETA: responding tweets now state the PM was not at the conference the shooting took place at. Weird though to have so much govt targeted violence in one day in Norway. IMO.

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Man disguised as a police officer began shooting where prime minister Jens Stoltenberg was attending party conference at Utoya
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:04 PM
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This is the last tweet I will post on the shooting until there is a connection made to the bombing.....weird coincidence though if it's not related.

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Labour youth member tweets: "We are sitting by the beach. A man is shooting clothed inpolice uniform. Help us! " #oslohttp://bit.ly/quLKIl
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:09 PM
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Does seem very odd for 2 incidents to happen on the same day if there not linked.
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:26 PM
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Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway; shooter fires at youth camp


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Old 07-22-2011, 01:27 PM
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Earlier responding tweets that I can't find now say the PM was scheduled to appear at the conference but had not yet done so. FWIW.
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:35 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07...egian-capital/

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The blast comes as Norway grapples with a homegrown terror plot linked to Al Qaeda. Two suspects are in jail awaiting charges.
Last week, a Norwegian prosecutor filed terror charges against an Iraqi-born cleric for threatening Norwegian politicians with death if he is deported from the Scandinavian country. The indictment centered on statements that Mullah Krekar -- the founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam -- made to various news media, including American network NBC.
Terrorism has also been a concern in neighboring Denmark since an uproar over cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad six years ago. Danish authorities say they have foiled several terror plots linked to the 2005 newspaper cartoons that triggered protests in Muslim countries. Last month, a Danish appeals court on Wednesday sentenced a Somali man to 10 years in prison for breaking into the home of the cartoonist.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07...#ixzz1SrAtWIFw
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:36 PM
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This is scary to me since the US just recently issued the raised alert here this week.
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:40 PM
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,2369807.story

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In 2003, an audiotape by Ayman Zawahiri, who succeeded Osama bin Laden as leader of Al Qaeda after his death in May, urged militants to attack the U.S., Britain, Australia and Norway.

Many Norwegians were puzzled at the inclusion of their country on the list; explanations centered on Norway's participation in the war in Afghanistan.

Six years ago, many Muslims around the world and at home were angered when a Norwegian newspaper published cartoons from Denmark that protesters said insulted the prophet Muhammad.

Oslo is also a contributor to the aerial campaign over Libya
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:42 PM
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At the below link is a great picture of the tiny island the youth conference is being held on.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7326417.story
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:47 PM
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I am so shocked to see the city that born and raised me being under attack.

But more...

the shooting at Utřya is worse.

A fake police man comes to a political youth camp and starts shooting. Kids jump in the water to swim away from the horrow.

Utřya is a small island, 700 teens/youth were there today. Jumping in the ocean is the only option...

The horrow these kids must have felt. I am crying when I think about my Norwegian sisters and brothers hurt today.
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:49 PM
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And I just wanna say:

I wish Norway would stop engaging in military operations all over the world.

We are a very peaceful nation and people...
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The shooter at Utřya is captured.

3 others arrested.
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:12 PM
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And I just wanna say:

I wish Norway would stop engaging in military operations all over the world.

We are a very peaceful nation and people...
I am very surprised to read today that Norway is such a terrorist target.

ETA: sending my prayers to the people of Norway.
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:16 PM
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From the front page.
http://www.cnn.com/

Police have good reason to think the deadly explosion in central Oslo is linked to the shooting on an island where a political youth camp was being held, NRK reports. LIVE BLOG
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:33 PM
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A couple of weeks ago, I was in Finland and Sweden. In Finland, I saw quite a few refugee Muslims, the women were mostly in full long dress/scarf combos. If they were with a man, they were walking five steps behind him.

The guide I was with said that it isn't working out with Finland supporting people who are so different from the Fins. The refugees don't like the cold, the language is very hard to learn and for a small country, supporting people who have lots of children and who can't find jobs is getting very hard.

It seems to me that rather than taking people from such a different culture, with a wish to keep their religion rules above state law, and climate is not good! Maybe Saudi Arabia, where there is plenty of money and the need for unskilled labor would be a better choice. So why isn't Saudi Arabia stepping up?
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:02 PM
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Horrifying. As bad as the bomb blasts in Oslo are, I keep thinking of those "mostly 15-16 year old" kids at camp. You send your kid to camp and think that you have to worry about stuff like poison ivy or a broken arm, not a terrorist attack!

Prayers for the people of Norway, especially the victims and their families.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:08 PM
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Good God. Prayers for Norway. The word 'horrific' doesn't begin to cover it. Prayers for us all.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:25 PM
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The photos from the UK press are horrifying. You know that toll is going to keep going up. All my prayers.


Not confirmed, but current speculation:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...KqTI_blog.html

It's not as if we're playing by any kind of rules here, but to target children with such viciousness, even as they tried to swim away?
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Fox news is reporting 25 bodies at youth camp.

My heart is breaking.
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Norway reels after bomb blast, youth camp attack
Multiple deaths at scene of Oslo explosion; many casualties reported on island


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Old 07-22-2011, 03:56 PM
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8.35pm: Oslo police have said they suspect the man arrested after the youth camp shooting is also linked to the bombing in Oslo.
Acting Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim won't give any details about the man, who was dressed in a police uniform when he opened fire.
He said police were still trying to get an overview of the shooting at the Utoya youth camp and could not say whether there was more than one shooter.
excellent Guardian coverage here.
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From the Guardian link wfgodot posted:

Witnesses who have managed to escape from the island, says to NRK reporters on the spot that the perpetrator had a Norwegian look. He should be between 185 to 190 cm tall and have blond hair.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:08 PM
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/

Sky news has live coverage I think in english. I don't have my headphones hooked up. They are sadlly reporting 30 dead at youth camp.
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Anybody have information about Findland's Labour Party? I read that this camp is largely known as the "breeding ground" for its future leaders. I'm in complete ignorance. TIA.

Trying to research it now.
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