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Brent DID offer him LWOP at our request. He turned it down.
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What? What a fool. What a fool. Well, it's out of your hands Tulessa. he made his decision. It seems he keeps on making selfish, evil decisions. he could have spared your family and his own this whole trial. He could have spared his mother seeing him face the DP. Sadly, he chose not to. He is a coward, a rotten apple in an apparently otherwise decent family.
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The babies are doing great. Lisa's two oldest by her first marriage are not doing well at all. Her ex-husband refused to take them to therapy. He seems to think that since they weren't there when it happened, that they don't need it. The family has pushed for him to take them & he threatens to keep Vanessa and Ryan away form the ones trying to help.
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Talking to sis, trying to figure out her siggy. I had np with mine
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She sure is! Good looks run in that family, that's for sure.
In other news, so, he found a couple of docs to say he was depressed. So what? That's not insanity for purposes of getting away with murder.
And a low IQ? Well, we all can tell he's not smart, but again, that's no excuse for murder. He worked, he raised a family. He.knew.better.
Perhaps he's hoping for some kind of sympathy vote that will get him less than the DP. I think his smug and smarmy attitude on the stand is no help. The best he could do is maybe LWOP which they apparently already offered him! But, I think he's getting the DP.
I'm not a believer in it, really, in general. But he made his choice here. He really did. He was offered life and turned it down! I bet his lawyers tried to get him to take that plea deal. He's got nothing. What a selfish waste putting everyone through this trial!
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One other thing:
http://www.wkyt.com/wymt/home/headli...148767325.html
They examined him in 2010. How do they know what his diagnosis was in 2008 when he committed those murders? Of course he was depressed after killing two people and realizing he was facing LWOP or the death penalty!
Seriously? This is the best they can do? What is the point of such a defense?
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Both dr's testimony hogwash. The prosecutor pointed straight at that hogwash by them not including it in their reports.
I can also tell you about debilitating depression and not once have I thought about harming anyone else besides my self. More hogwash.
I hope this jury can see beyond what this defense and their client have put forth.
I hope whatshisthing did himself in when he testified, because I'd bet he appeared smarter then his supposed IQ.
Hang on Girls, justice is coming.
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Thank you so much just watched the news and it makes me so angry that they had 2 Dr's on the witness stand to say he has a low IQ and has depression disorder....This breaks my heart to watch this i really don't think i could have took sitting in the court room and listened to this it really makes me mad. Part of me is gone that i will never get back...
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Welcome Shag!
Please know that we have been here for you from the get-go.
As I have every morning, I wake up thinking of you both. Keep strong. Whatshiswhatever has no case for insanity. In my career, I worked with lots of peoople with IQ's similar (and even lower) than his. They were successful people who led productive lives, for the most part. None of them ever killed anyone.
Don't even get me started on the depression defense. Been there, still there at times. Doesn't make me see demons in the mirror. Makes me say tomorrow will be better!
Tulessa, you and Flossie will get through this and come out the other side with each other's support. If we've helped, so much the better.
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Forum: Jury Room
Thread: Cold But Not Too Old Murder Case List
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Another day closer to justice for your brother and you family.
How's that cold Tulessa? Hope it's on it's way out of your system.
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Another day closer to justice for your brother and you family.
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What? What a fool. What a fool. Well, it's out of your hands Tulessa. he made his decision. It seems he keeps on making selfish, evil decisions. he could have spared your family and his own this whole trial. He could have spared his mother seeing him face the DP. Sadly, he chose not to. He is a coward, a rotten apple in an apparently otherwise decent family.
That's a shame to hear about Vanessa and Ryan.
That's the pic. That's the one that gets me every time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I hope you find it here as supportive as your sis does.
She sure is! Good looks run in that family, that's for sure.
In other news, so, he found a couple of docs to say he was depressed. So what? That's not insanity for purposes of getting away with murder.
And a low IQ? Well, we all can tell he's not smart, but again, that's no excuse for murder. He worked, he raised a family. He.knew.better.
Perhaps he's hoping for some kind of sympathy vote that will get him less than the DP. I think his smug and smarmy attitude on the stand is no help. The best he could do is maybe LWOP which they apparently already offered him! But, I think he's getting the DP.
I'm not a believer in it, really, in general. But he made his choice here. He really did. He was offered life and turned it down! I bet his lawyers tried to get him to take that plea deal. He's got nothing. What a selfish waste putting everyone through this trial! |
I absolutely love your posts. You are the voice of reason. 
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Welcome Shag!
Please know that we have been here for you from the get-go.
As I have every morning, I wake up thinking of you both. Keep strong. Whatshiswhatever has no case for insanity. In my career, I worked with lots of peoople with IQ's similar (and even lower) than his. They were successful people who led productive lives, for the most part. None of them ever killed anyone.
Don't even get me started on the depression defense. Been there, still there at times. Doesn't make me see demons in the mirror. Makes me say tomorrow will be better!
Tulessa, you and Flossie will get through this and come out the other side with each other's support. If we've helped, so much the better.
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agreed! I suffer from depression and anxiety and I can'kill a bug.
I make my dog do it cuz I'm terrified of bees. 
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FBBcGVid0lmUHc
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Forum: Jury Room
Thread: Cold But Not Too Old Murder Case List
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FBBcGVid0lmUHc
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Forum: Jury Room
Thread: Cold But Not Too Old Murder Case List
This is a listing of newer but still cold cases. As with the above thread we will be adding as we go along. Most of these cases will probably have threads. If you do start a new one, please let me know so I can add the link to the spreadsheets. The spreadsheets may be accessed from the links below.
Here is the link for the spreadsheet in alphabetical order:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...mlNV2lSQ1dDWHc
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Would Flossie be able to post there? As I was thinking a person had to have a certain amount of posts first. I so hope I'm wrong.
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You know, I didn't even think of that. She can always go to the game room and rack up some posts. I think it is maybe 50? Anyone know?
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Thread: Most interesting classic unsolved murder cases
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You can access a spreadsheet that lists the cases in alphabetical order with the page & post number so that you can locate a particular case you may be interested in. It also contains links to any cases that already have a thread on WS.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hl=en_US#gid=0
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FBBcGVid0lmUHc
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Forum: Jury Room
Thread: Cold But Not Too Old Murder Case List
This is a listing of newer but still cold cases. As with the above thread we will be adding as we go along. Most of these cases will probably have threads. If you do start a new one, please let me know so I can add the link to the spreadsheets. The spreadsheets may be accessed from the links below.
Here is the link for the spreadsheet in alphabetical order:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...mlNV2lSQ1dDWHc
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