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Old 10-07-2011, 03:14 PM
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Hmm, 2:27 AM, huh? Coincidentally, right around 2:30 AM when LE says mom made a phone call from one of those cell phones.

I am so not liking the road we are headed down.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:15 PM
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hey there blondie look up ^^^ da plane da plane (shelby beat me to it LOL)

LOL! Sorry.

I'm always updating it, so I hate to make it a sticky, you know?
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:15 PM
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wow ... a new thread already and I haven't even finished the last one !

Why do I get the feeling that "something" is about to "break" in this case soon ?

MOO ...
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:15 PM
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This seems very important---way to remove evidence. Hope they are looking at the residents of the apt building. Hoping that they have surveillance cameras.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:16 PM
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this made me sick....
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An early morning dumpster fire this week has lead investigators to search a Johnson County landfill for the third time in the Lisa Irwin case.

Police said there was a dumpster fire at an apartment complex at 4897 NE 37th Street at 2:27 a.m. on Tuesday, October 4. The dumpster is less than a half a mile away from the Irwin home.
Notice the time. I don't want to think that baby Lisa was in there.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:16 PM
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Wow, that is interesting.

And now, *3* searches of the landfill in this case....
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:16 PM
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But wouldn't setting fire to a dumpster, where one presumably could have gotten rid of evidence bring MORE attention to things? I would think you would want to remain as far "under the cover of darkness" as possible.
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The trash from that fire had been examined two times before, and police were at the Johnson County Deffenbaugh Industries' landfill on Friday to search it again.
http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-poli...,5538504.story

So three times - what do they think they missed the first two?

If I were the parents and I were innocent, I would be angry about this. Like the multiple woods searches, it gives the impression of going in circles. If they do find something in a later search, it gives the impression of incompetence.

I said previously, if the parents are innocent, I'm going to be steamed with LE's handling of this. I really want to believe they know what they're doing and that there's a lot going on behind the scenes. I'm hoping they've got a solid reason for this.
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I wonder if the parents know anyone that lives in that apartment building?
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:18 PM
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Last post in the last thread has a link to a news article saying it was the first time Mom didn't lock the door.
The 1st time dad at new job, the 1st time mom DIDN'T lock the door... There are to many 1st here and a baby is missing. Something isn't right here!!!
prayers for little lisa!!! that she is found safe and alive!
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:19 PM
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Also, if Lisa was in the dumpster, they would have found her in the first search. Fires set like that do not burn hot enough to cremate someone.

So - what are they really looking for?
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Hmm, 2:27 AM, huh? Coincidentally, right around 2:30 AM when LE says mom made a phone call from one of those cell phones.

I am so not liking the road we are headed down.
I am speculating that the call went to (or was placed from) the location of the dumpster....JMO...
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LOL! Sorry.

I'm always updating it, so I hate to make it a sticky, you know?

I understand at least now I know where to look for it...Thanks so much!
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It seems that LE is searching for a dead baby now. I hope I'm wrong. Are there any searches going on right now? Any posters out?
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:21 PM
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Also, if Lisa was in the dumpster, they would have found her in the first search. Fires set like that do not burn hot enough to cremate someone.

So - what are they really looking for?
cell phones?
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I am speculating that the call went to (or was placed from) the location of the dumpster....JMO...
Just wondering if they have called the cell phones since the disappearance? Couldn't they tell by the pings where the phones are now? Or is the technology that sophistocated? tia
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:22 PM
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It seems that LE is searching for a dead baby now. I hope I'm wrong. Are there any searches going on right now? Any posters out?
My opinion,

something in the interviews and LDT,

has made them now search for a baby that has passed...
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But wouldn't setting fire to a dumpster, where one presumably could have gotten rid of evidence bring MORE attention to things? I would think you would want to remain as far "under the cover of darkness" as possible.
...except someone who would do this, isn't a brainiac and has to move quickly.

The timing and location of the dumpster fire is very suspicious to me, and (IMO) leads in the direction of the mother. Someone had to destroy evidence quickly, after removing the child from the home.

It's all too coincidental. First night that the father starts a new job, and the child disappears *exactly* while he's gone?

I really hope it's not the mother. But who'd break into a house, deep inside a subdivision, crawl inside a window and leave no evidence, and then manage to crawl out again ... leaving no evidence?
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Assuming that the Dad or both parents is responsible (and I think this is true), what in the world would be their motive?
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Also, if Lisa was in the dumpster, they would have found her in the first search. Fires set like that do not burn hot enough to cremate someone.

So - what are they really looking for?
Three cell phones?
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I feel awful for these parents. They are clearly emotionally exhausted. In her pictures Lisa looks so happy, well cared for and well loved.
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My thought are the window was staged, by whom.....I haven't got a clue .....YET....
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...except someone who would do this, isn't a brainiac and has to move quickly.

The timing and location of the dumpster fire is very suspicious to me, and (IMO) leads in the direction of the mother. Someone had to destroy evidence quickly, after removing the child from the home.

It's all too coincidental. First night that the father starts a new job, and the child disappears *exactly* while he's gone?

I really hope it's not the mother. But who'd break into a house, deep inside a subdivision, crawl inside a window and leave no evidence, and then manage to crawl out again ... leaving no evidence?
And leave the lights on? That's what gets me. If you are creeping around in someone's house--stranger or acquaintance--you don't turn on the lights! Someone--anyone--could wake up and catch you. And you don't take cell phones with you that can be used for tracking. None of this makes sense.

I really think Mom is behind this and Dad is helping her to cover it. That poor child.
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But wouldn't setting fire to a dumpster, where one presumably could have gotten rid of evidence bring MORE attention to things? I would think you would want to remain as far "under the cover of darkness" as possible.
But, that would mean that you were thinking logically. How logically could a mother be thinking if she just had killed her child, either accidentally or on purpose? This is horrifying to even imagine!
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