Websleuths
Go Back   Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community > Featured Case Discussion > Hot Cases > Lisa Irwin Missing! > Lisa Irwin General Discussion Threads

Notices

Lisa Irwin General Discussion Threads Not open for posting-but there is plenty of reading.


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:51 PM
imamaze's Avatar
imamaze imamaze is offline
WS Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Indy
Posts: 19,191
MO - Amber Alert: Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 october 2011 #14

An AMBER Alert was issued for 10-month-old Lisa Irwin on Tuesday, October 4th after she was abducted from her crib during the early morning hours. As of today (Thursday), no suspects have been identified, and the AMBER Alert has been canceled.
Lisa is 10 months old. She has blue eyes and blonde hair. She is 30 inches tall and weighs between 26 and 30 pounds. Lisa was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with white kittens on it.
Lisa is described as having two bottom teeth, a small bug bite under her left ear, a beauty mark on her right outer thigh and currently has a cold with a cough.

Anyone with information is asked to call 9-1-1, your local police agency, or the Kansas City TIPS Hotline at 816-474-8477.



Thread #1

Thread #2

Thread #3

Thread #4
Thread #5

Thread #6

Thread #7

Thread #8

Thread #9

Thread #10

Thread #11

Thread #12

Thread #13



Lisa Irwin Timeline


Please remember the rules. We are not sleuthing random people. Mom and Dad only. We are not talking about parentage or anything else regarding any of the children.
Follow MSM lead and don't accuse anyone not named in MSM as a suspect.
Do not post rumors from Facebook, blogs or other sources. If you can't link you cannot discuss.
No sleuthing minors, or "random people".

Please continue here...
  #2  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:54 PM
belimom's Avatar
belimom belimom is offline
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter ~MLK Jr
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 10,481
Thanks, Ima, and all the other mods... This case is moving at 2 threads a day - thanks for all the hard work!
__________________
Fly high and free, Jhessye ~

My posts are meant to help think through possibilities and are strictly an additional opinion under circumstances when many points of view need to be considered. I apologize in advance to anyone whose potential involvement is contemplated in error. Please understand that much of what is happening is merely brainstorming during unfortunate events.
  #3  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:54 PM
passionflower's Avatar
passionflower passionflower is offline
Just 1 tip to find a killer
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: STEELER COUNTRY!
Posts: 24,258
Full moon is coming up, hope the moon beams find baby Lisa...........good nite all.
__________________
Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
Justice for Hailey!!!!
No Justice for Caylee Marie..........
  #4  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:55 PM
justbeachy's Avatar
justbeachy justbeachy is offline
"It's good to see me, isn't it? No need to respond; that was rhetorical."
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 1,536


This seems like a good place for me to sign off for the evening. Good night, all.
__________________
Justice for Trenton
http://www.helpfindtrenton.com/
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to justbeachy For This Useful Post:
  #5  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:55 PM
katydid23's Avatar
katydid23 katydid23 is offline
Verified Juanette
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 24,850
So when is the last verified sighting of that sweet baby? The neighbor and her kid were supposedly over that early evening to watch a movie with the boys. Did she see the baby?
__________________
“Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to katydid23 For This Useful Post:
  #7  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:57 PM
curiositycat's Avatar
curiositycat curiositycat is offline
The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Northern New Mexico
Posts: 5,014
Quote:
Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
So when is the last verified sighting of that sweet baby? The neighbor and her kid was supposedly over that early evening to watch a movie with the kids. Did she see the baby?
I would have thought they would have tried to interview the woman for some television show, either they have and she refuses, or ?????
__________________
"Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect" Steven Wright
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to curiositycat For This Useful Post:
  #8  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:57 PM
marge_rita marge_rita is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,021
BeanE.s post from the last thread.
Quote:
Wut?

“They probably may or might not have a suspect or could be looking for all that tape, all that footage that TV stations took to see whether or not someone is giving a consistent story,” Morrison said. “They could see whether or not their suspect might have been interviewed or might be in any of that footage, they might be looking at footage around the house or vigils.”

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/new...#ixzz1aRAAKrnI

I've got a major case of the giggles over this one. Overtired.
__________________


boy that there could of been on hee haw a bizillion years ago.
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to marge_rita For This Useful Post:
  #9  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:58 PM
marycarney's Avatar
marycarney marycarney is offline
Inactive
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,798
Quote:
Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
So when is the last verified sighting of that sweet baby? The neighbor and her kid was supposedly over that early evening to watch a movie with the kids. Did she see the baby?
That's what I want to know, too. I have not even seen evidence that this neighbor exists or tells the same story.
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to marycarney For This Useful Post:
  #10  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:58 PM
matou's Avatar
matou matou is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,386
Quote:
Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
So when is the last verified sighting of that sweet baby? The neighbor and her kid was supposedly over that early evening to watch a movie with the kids. Did she see the baby?
The teen who was tested for DNA was over that day.

That neighbor apparently was at the home the day Lisa vanished and knew the access code to the family's garage.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-bab...ry?id=14695496
The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to matou For This Useful Post:
  #11  
Old 10-10-2011, 10:58 PM
frankie069's Avatar
frankie069 frankie069 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 869
I wish you all a good night and if I cant sleep like usual, I know just the place to come to now. Thanks again for having me and I certainly hope against hope that Little Lisa is found alive. I hope I am able to find you all again come tomorrow.. (I get lost easy)..

Night all..
__________________
"When we were children, we used to think that when we grew up we would no longer be vulnerable. But to grow up is to accept vulnerability, to be alive is to be vulnerable." ~Madeleine L'Engle



Proud to say.. I have never been on the fence !!
  #12  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:00 PM
marge_rita marge_rita is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,021
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/america...fles-US-police


Missing child case baffles US police


Quote:

Suspicion almost always falls heavily on the parents, especially when it's young kids," Dr Finkelhor said.

"Fifteen hundred parents kill their kids every year, and that's heavily focused on the under one year of age category."
The Following 17 Users Say Thank You to marge_rita For This Useful Post:
  #13  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:00 PM
wfgodot's Avatar
wfgodot wfgodot is offline
chien méchant
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 22,190
If someone would like the fun! task of adding tags, my limit has been reached without room for these:

missouri river, non-barking black lab, north brighton townhomes, northland, pd spokesman darin snapp, searching drainage ditch, spokesperson ashley irwin, statement analysis, subpoena raw news footage, teen neighbor(s), three cell phones
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to wfgodot For This Useful Post:
  #14  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:00 PM
raeann's Avatar
raeann raeann is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Kansas
Posts: 4,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by marge_rita View Post
BeanE.s post from the last thread.




boy that there could of been on hee haw a bizillion years ago.
Yes.....there is a reason this person is referred to with the word "former" in front of his name......FORMER Attorney General.....FORMER Prosecutor......here is the wiki link I posted in the last thread.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Morrison
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to raeann For This Useful Post:
  #15  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:03 PM
HatesSociopaths HatesSociopaths is offline
Inactive
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,755
My theory is that the baby was buried in the backyard of a family member.
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to HatesSociopaths For This Useful Post:
  #16  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:03 PM
chieftess's Avatar
chieftess chieftess is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 133
Quote:
Originally Posted by raeann View Post
Yes.....there is a reason this person is referred to with the word "former" in front of his name......FORMER Attorney General.....FORMER Prosecutor......here is the wiki link I posted in the last thread.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Morrison
A career prosecutor, Morrison has personally argued nearly 100 jury trials including the complex murder cases of notorious serial killers Richard Grissom and John E. Robinson. Morrison continued to personally prosecute cases as Kansas Attorney General.

He also prosecuted some very high profile cases
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to chieftess For This Useful Post:
  #17  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:04 PM
norest4thewicked's Avatar
norest4thewicked norest4thewicked is offline
Karma is a beautiful thing ~
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 5,895
Quote:
Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
If someone would like the fun! task of adding tags, my limit has been reached without room for these:

missouri river, non-barking black lab, north brighton townhomes, northland, pd spokesman darin snapp, searching drainage ditch, spokesperson ashley irwin, statement analysis, subpoena raw news footage, teen neighbor(s), three cell phones
I would but I'm already doing 3 things at once...haha
__________________
Please consider my comments as my opinion. I don't ask that you agree with me and you are free to scroll past my post. Thanks for respecting my opinion as much as I respect yours.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Please help identify the unidentified photos found in the storage locker of serial killer, Rodney Alcala.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-F...61183953929612
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to norest4thewicked For This Useful Post:
  #18  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:04 PM
gwenabob's Avatar
gwenabob gwenabob is offline
A nice girl with a disturbing hobby
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: City of Roses, Portland, Oregon
Posts: 2,402
Quote:
Originally Posted by HatesSociopaths View Post
My theory is that the baby was buried in the backyard of a family member.
>shiver<
__________________
Justice is the constant and perpetual will to allot to every man his due. Domitus Ulpian
The Following 16 Users Say Thank You to gwenabob For This Useful Post:
  #20  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:07 PM
raeann's Avatar
raeann raeann is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Kansas
Posts: 4,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by chieftess View Post
A career prosecutor, Morrison has personally argued nearly 100 jury trials including the complex murder cases of notorious serial killers Richard Grissom and John E. Robinson. Morrison continued to personally prosecute cases as Kansas Attorney General.

He also prosecuted some very high profile cases

yes.....some good work ruined by later behavior.....this is the part that caused the "former" labels

"Scandal and resignation

Extramarital affair
In December 2007 allegations surfaced that Morrison had an affair with an office administrator, Linda Carter, in the district attorney's office, that continued after he was elected Attorney General. Carter filed a sexual harassment claim with the EEOC alleging that Morrison pressured her to obtain sensitive information about Kline and several pending investigations at the district attorney's office. Morrison admitted to the infidelity, but denies any impropriety, sexual harassment, pressure to obtain sensitive information, or influence the course of an investigation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Morrison
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to raeann For This Useful Post:
  #21  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:09 PM
askfornina's Avatar
askfornina askfornina is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,787
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBean View Post
heads up. I am putting a forum together right now and you will all be transported there in a bit.
Please be nice to each other!
thank you!!!!
  #22  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:09 PM
katydid23's Avatar
katydid23 katydid23 is offline
Verified Juanette
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 24,850
Quote:
Originally Posted by HatesSociopaths View Post
My theory is that the baby was buried in the backyard of a family member.
I HOPE you are wrong, but you could be right.

The only way I can think of that she would have been able to pull it off is if someone came over and took the baby from her home and disposed of her. It is just hard to imagine that someone would do that. Like i posted earlier, both my brothers love me very much,and my older brother has done HUGE favors for me over the years. But I cannot imagine calling him in the middle of the night and asking him to dispose of his dead niece. It takes a pretty intense brother/sister relationship for someone to do a morbid favor like that. imoo
__________________
“Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn
The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to katydid23 For This Useful Post:
  #23  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:11 PM
Peliman's Avatar
Peliman Peliman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,891
Headed out for a day trip shortly but I have read the subpoena to the grand jury. I'm a former photojournalist/video editor for a news station in Savannah.

Just wanted to mention it's asking for raw footage (comes from the camera tape.) Raw footage is cut edited onto show tapes, the edited version is saved to a library. Raw video tapes are placed in a box in the photographers room, it is not supposed to be reused for 5-7 days. Then it's reused for other stories.

During a week it's not hard between 6 or 8 photographers shooting 5-8 tapes a day maybe of various news events or assignments. It's alot of digital tape and the tapes need reused until their trash or re-cycled with new tapes. I'd sometimes use 30 tapes for the morning show producer and morning news.

If LE request raw footage, it must be subpoenaed. Not that it's difficult if it still exist but it's alot of work finding and previewing every tape. Cross your fingers for what they want. I have a feeling the GJ was used to meet the legal requirement of subpeonia to stop the reusing of raw video tape. JMO
The Following 64 Users Say Thank You to Peliman For This Useful Post:
  #24  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:11 PM
chieftess's Avatar
chieftess chieftess is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 133
Quote:
Originally Posted by raeann View Post
yes.....some good work ruined by later behavior.....this is the part that caused the "former" labels

"Scandal and resignation

Extramarital affair
In December 2007 allegations surfaced that Morrison had an affair with an office administrator, Linda Carter, in the district attorney's office, that continued after he was elected Attorney General. Carter filed a sexual harassment claim with the EEOC alleging that Morrison pressured her to obtain sensitive information about Kline and several pending investigations at the district attorney's office. Morrison admitted to the infidelity, but denies any impropriety, sexual harassment, pressure to obtain sensitive information, or influence the course of an investigation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Morrison
Yep, and unfortunately, he's not the first nor will he be the last to engage in career ending stupidity
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to chieftess For This Useful Post:
  #25  
Old 10-10-2011, 11:14 PM
Dr.Fessel's Avatar
Dr.Fessel Dr.Fessel is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: South Central Illinois
Posts: 10,904
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peliman View Post
Headed out for a day trip shortly but I have read the subpoena to the grand jury. I'm a former photojournalist/video editor for a news station in Savannah.

Just wanted to mention it's asking for raw footage (comes from the camera tape.) Raw footage is cut edited onto show tapes, the edited version is saved to a library. Raw video tapes are placed in a box in the photographers room, it is not supposed to be reused for 5-7 days. Then it's reused for other stories.

During a week it's not hard between 6 or 8 photographers shooting 5-8 tapes a day maybe of various news events or assignments. It's alot of digital tape and the tapes need reused until their trash or re-cycled with new tapes. I'd sometimes use 30 tapes for the morning show producer and morning news.

If LE request raw footage, it must be subpoenaed. Not that it's difficult if it still exist but it's alot of work finding and previewing every tape. Cross your fingers for what they want. I have a feeling the GJ was used to meet the legal requirement of subpeonia to stop the reusing of raw video tape. JMO
I love learning something new. Thank you!
 

Bookmarks

Tags
+ lisa irwin, 3620 n lister kc mo, accidents, backpack bike guy, body language, cali surveillance tape, date, deborah bradley, dumpster fire, edwardsville, edwardsville ks, grand jury, handyman, handyman absconded?, house and vigil, indictment, jeremy irwin, johnson & wyandotte co's, kcpd steve young, landfill in shawnee ks, lisa irwin, mike lerette, missouri river, non barking black lab, non-barking black lab, north brighton townhomes, northland, or complaints, pd spokesman darin snapp, searching drainage ditch, spokesman ashley irwin, spokesperson ashley irwin, statement analysis, subpoena raw news footage, substance, supoena raw news footage, teen neighbor(s), three cell phones

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MO - AMBER ALERT: Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #13 wfgodot Lisa Irwin General Discussion Threads 840 10-10-2011 10:53 PM
MO - AMBER ALERT: Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #12 KaylynnCouture Lisa Irwin General Discussion Threads 1409 10-10-2011 05:47 PM
MO - AMBER ALERT: Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #10 imamaze Lisa Irwin General Discussion Threads 979 10-09-2011 04:43 PM
MO - AMBER ALERT: Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #7 gwenabob Lisa Irwin General Discussion Threads 1290 10-08-2011 12:49 PM
MO - AMBER ALERT: Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #6 nursebeeme Lisa Irwin General Discussion Threads 835 10-07-2011 08:26 PM


© Copyright Websleuths 1999-2012 New To Site? Need Help?
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:23 PM.

Advertisements

Pre-Order Imperfect Justice: Prosecuting Casey Anthony today!