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Lisa Irwin Missing! 10 mo old Lisa Irwin disappeared from her crib in the middle of the night. Where is she?


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Old 10-22-2011, 01:37 PM
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Thank you, I just found the photo too!

On the end of the house on the left, is that sliding glass doors for the deck?
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:38 PM
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Otto, I think you NAILED It!!

Except, the door to the basement is on the other side, imo. In the video we can see a solid wall with a bulletin board where you have door to the basement. I think the door to the basement is off the livingroom.
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Do we have a picture of the side of the driveway side of the house?
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:45 PM
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The details on this house says it has 4 bedrooms.

http://www.zillow.com

Then put in the address
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Thank you, I just found the photo too!

On the end of the house on the left, is that sliding glass doors for the deck?
The door to the deck looks like a solid single door to me. The only sliding glass doors I see are the ones going into the basement.

The 4 bedroom listing I think is because the computer room could be considered a bedroom? Or maybe there's another room in the basement?
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The details on this house says it has 4 bedrooms.

http://www.zillow.com

Then put in the address
That helps with the theory that the computer room was once 2 separate rooms. The front being a dining room and the back being the fourth bedroom.

I really want to see this basement. It looks rather large - has to be, there are 2 garage doors - so large enough to hold 2 cars at least. I've also heard that's where the laundry is.

If we could see the basement - then we'd know where the stairs come up into the house too.
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:55 PM
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I'm thinking the computer room, off the kitchen, was a dining room. This house was built in 1958.

What I am trying to get Lisa's bedroom all the way at the other end of the house, and the only way to do that, is to divide up that computer room.
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Old 10-22-2011, 02:04 PM
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FLOOR PLAN of Baby Lisa Irwin's home

Ok, I really tried to make this the best guess floor-plan,

( I made it in "word" so don't laugh)

However it may still be wrong

please post what needs to be changed.

Also what is the likelihood of this being stranger abduction with this floor plan?




Please link any videos or Picture that can help make this correct.
Why would a stranger break in through that window on the front of the house and go all the way through the kitchen, living room, past the stairs, turn right into the hallway and left into the baby's room when there appears to be a window on the back side of the house and Lisa's bed is right there near that window? No way is this a stranger abduction. That baby is dead and I don't understand why the mom has not been arrested for child neglect or child endangerment since she was drunk while the kids were in her care.
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Old 10-22-2011, 02:20 PM
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This site says only 3 bedrooms, of which, is probably correct since the boys share a bedroom.

http://www.homes.com/Home-Prices/ID-...-N-LISTER-AVE/
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Otto,
Great job on the floor plan. Puts things in prospective nicely!
(Though I personally don't think this child was kidnapped, I think she was removed from the home after she passed.)

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Why would a stranger break in through that window on the front of the house and go all the way through the kitchen, living room, past the stairs, turn right into the hallway and left into the baby's room when there appears to be a window on the back side of the house and Lisa's bed is right there near that window? No way is this a stranger abduction. That baby is dead and I don't understand why the mom has not been arrested for child neglect or child endangerment since she was drunk while the kids were in her care.
Good post and I agree. A stranger wouldn't go that route. imo
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Maybe something more like this? There is something off with the area around the stairs, the bathroom and the entrance to the computer room ... don't know what, but it seems like something doesn't fit quite right.


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Old 10-22-2011, 03:11 PM
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Maybe something more like this? There is something off with the area around the stairs, the bathroom and the entrance to the computer room ... don't know what, but it seems like something doesn't fit quite right.

Yes, but I think there was a "back" hallway.

More like move the stairs to match up with the bathroom and then use that as a hallway that runs all the way to the master. If the computer room was once two rooms - there would have to be a doorway/opening.

Also, the "island" bath and the master bath. Toilet in master move to opposite wall and island bath move toilet to the wall right before your "W" - that lines up the water lines.

But overall YES - I think you've got it


Although I still think Lisa's room was the one in the middle. But that's JMHO.


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Old 10-22-2011, 03:28 PM
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Perhaps, the second bathroom wasn't even on the first floor since this home was built in 1958, leaving only a main bathroom rather than a master bath.

That would make the main bathroom perhaps on the same side as the bedrooms. The stairs then could go back where they were, perhaps with the opening to the steps the same way you have the WC in the middle of the floor plan. It would then be like going down the hallway and the door to the basement is there.

My ranch had a hallway to the bedrooms. Just as the hallway started the door to the basement was on my left and about 6 foot steps down the hallway, the main bathroom was on my right, of which, was the same side as my kitchen and the master bath for plumbing purposes.

Thinking out loud.

I also think Lisa's bedroom was in the middle, FWIW!

You are doing an AWESOME job with the floor plans.
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A thought about that second bath, I would think there would have to be a window in that second bathroom. So either there is a bathroom downstairs and none in the master suite, just leaving a main bathroom on the same side as the bedrooms.
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This picture has me wondering what room is it in the door way?



Is he standing in the living room in this picture?
If so...baby Lisa's room is right thru that doorway, it appears.
If not, do you know what room he is standing in?
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Wow great job everyone. Those layouts are great.
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This pic:



Look on the roof. There are little "vent type" outlets. They usually give a clue where the toilets - or water lines in the hosue are.

There is one right in the front - where the water wall in the kitchen is
and then to the left and back a little - which is where I say that second bath is.

I've seen where this could possibly be a 2 and a half bath house - the would put that island bathroom as the "half" bath with another full bath downstairs.

Here's the pic of the back:



Again, you can see the "vent" for the master bath in this one.


I really want to see this basement - its huge. Almost like having another whole house. What is down there? We can see glass sliding doors and 2 garage doors. Big place down there.
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This picture has me wondering what room is it in the door way?


Looking at this picture, is he standing in the computer room? It looks to me that the room behind him is Baby Lisa's room. So there must be a doorway to the computer room off that hallway.
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We need a better aerial view of the top of the house because now I need to see another vent to determine a main bathroom and a master bathroom.

As I was looking around for info on the house, one area indicated the basement was around 750 square feet.
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I think the reporter is standing where I marked in red.....

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Looking at this picture, is he standing in the computer room? It looks to me that the room behind him is Baby Lisa's room. So there must be a doorway to the computer room off that hallway.
I really want to know what room he's standing in also. I didn't consider the computer room.

I also started at it for a few minutes at one point when it looked almost as if that were a closed door with a full length mirror attached (putting Lisa's room in the mirrored image...or opposite wall, if you will.)
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I think the reporter is standing where I marked in red.....

Ok thank you Wise. :::blinks hard from eye strain::: lol
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Ok thank you Wise. :::blinks hard from eye strain::: lol
lol - I know - I'm sorry - I didn't think it would come out that small. At least you can see it. teehee
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This pic:



Look on the roof. There are little "vent type" outlets. They usually give a clue where the toilets - or water lines in the hosue are.

There is one right in the front - where the water wall in the kitchen is
and then to the left and back a little - which is where I say that second bath is.

I've seen where this could possibly be a 2 and a half bath house - the would put that island bathroom as the "half" bath with another full bath downstairs.

Here's the pic of the back:



Again, you can see the "vent" for the master bath in this one.


I really want to see this basement - its huge. Almost like having another whole house. What is down there? We can see glass sliding doors and 2 garage doors. Big place down there.
100% agree with you about the bathrooms and placement.

Hopefully this links works. It shows the vent you were talking about for the master bathroom and then show the two vents in the front of the house.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...nt%3D6-1-1.png

Of course it is a tiny white dot on the back of the house for the master bath.
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