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Old 10-27-2011, 02:07 PM
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Looking at a chart prepared for the defense. But it isn't this witness's chart. UH OH.
Looks like the defense tried to pull a fast one.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:07 PM
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OMG -- DT gave the state that chart? Were they misrepresenting that it came from the expert?
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"Murray's attorneys plan to call an addiction specialist, Dr. Robert Waldman, co-medical director of the Recovery Unit at Daniel Freeman Marina Hospital in Marina del Rey, Calif., to testify about the singer's addiction."

snipped from link: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/conrad-...ry?id=14633134

Dr. Waldman wouldn't disclose where he worked but abc will.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:09 PM
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OH OH... CM has a new bald patch.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:09 PM
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Where else would that chart come from?
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:16 PM
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LOL Walgren got in another jab at CM for not keeping records.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:17 PM
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How can he "assume" those are not complete records? MJ just did not go everyday ???

If he was so addicted no way could he go days without getting a "fix" or even more than 4-5 hours?
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:18 PM
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LOL Walgren got in another jab at CM for not keeping records.
And Miss Brazil looked like she was biting the insides of her mouth to stifle a laugh!
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:22 PM
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Lorazapam and all other benzos, along with all other controlled meds... are required to be constantly kept in a separate "narcotics cabinet",
which takes 2 separate keys to unlock. And every one of these meds, pill by pill are counted twice a shift, at the beginning & ending of each
shift and must be done by 2 nurses, the oncoming nurse & off-going nurse.

Every pill must be accounted for or the off-going nurse doesn't go home, until the missing pill is located!!!
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:23 PM
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LOL Walgren got in another jab at CM for not keeping records.
Walgren, albeit with difficulty with this witness, is really making some points re: the controlled substance (lorazepam) being locked up in a secure cabinet and the fact that CM did not keep records.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:25 PM
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Phenobarb is safe? Tell that to the whackos that offed themselves to join the sister ship hiding behind the moon!
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:26 PM
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Walgren got this guy to admit he would refuse to treat a patient if he did not go along with his program. Bingo!!!!
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BINGO !

{ would refuse to offer a dangerous drug to a patient, correct?]


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May I make a suggestion?
How 'bout we all meet Walgren at the courthouse and give him a group hug when he comes out!!!
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:28 PM
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Chertoff is trying to get the chart problem resolved. Stammering a little.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:30 PM
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May I make a suggestion?
How 'bout we all meet Walgren at the courthouse and give him a group hug when he comes out!!!
I'm in.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:31 PM
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Phenobarb is safe? Tell that to the whackos that offed themselves to join the sister ship hiding behind the moon!

Darn.. I missed the part when phenobarb was mentioned.
Did Dr W say it was used as a detox med for opioids?
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Chertoff is trying to get the chart problem resolved. Stammering a little.
Sounds like Dr Waldren's secretary actually made the graph, using the doctors data. It is funny that he was so adamant and forceful in his denial, given the facts.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:32 PM
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End of 1st cross - The Doc and Wally started communicating better -- both of them are prolly Alpha Dogs, and they didn't wanna give up much territory, but then found a bit of neutrality.

Wally got in some good, good q's at the end having to do with a pt. refusing all therapies suggested and wanted a certain drug instead, and the doc said he would refuse to treat the pt.

Another: If patient ask for a specific dangerous drug to take, would he give it -- "Absolutely not."

Hmmmmm.
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Darn.. I missed the part when phenobarb was mentioned.
Did Dr W say it was used as a detox med for opioids?
He said he would use it to get the patient off the drug of choice. He could use phenobarb as a replacement and wean the patient off of that.
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OK I have come to the conclusion that this is one of those experts who will tailor their testimony to the side they are testifying for even if it means misrepresenting facts.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:35 PM
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Chertoff just made the state's case about the drugs CM was providing weren't locked up safely. Or did I hear that wrong?
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When someone gets a chance, can you please refresh my memory as to why Dr Klein is not being called to testify?

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Chertoff just made the state's case about the drugs CM was providing weren't locked up safely. Or did I hear that wrong?
I believe what he was trying to do was get out that propofol was not a controlled substance but failed miserably. Propofol was not in the scope of his testimony. LOL
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