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Old 10-27-2011, 02:39 PM
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When someone gets a chance, can you please refresh my memory as to why Dr Klein is not being called to testify?

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I believe it was because there were no drugs supplied or prescribed by Klein in MJ's body. (But imo his behind should be up there explaining his own records)
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:40 PM
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I believe what he was trying to do was get out that propofol was not a controlled substance but failed miserably. Propofol was not in the scope of his testimony. LOL
I got that he was referring to all the meds CM was administering to MJ ...
(and paid to supervise & watch carefully at all times!)
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:42 PM
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LOL this is getting funny. No wonder the defense didn't use this chart. Because only the witness can understand it or maybe not.
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I believe it was because there were no drugs supplied or prescribed by Klein in MJ's body. (But imo his behind should be up there explaining his own records)
If for nothing else, to clarify the descrepencies and explain what, why, where and when.
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When someone gets a chance, can you please refresh my memory as to why Dr Klein is not being called to testify?

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Here it is but the ruling just did not make sense IMO when his records were allowed to come in. Out of all the rulings the Judge made, this one I really did not understand. Also the defense made a big deal out of wanting to call Dr. Adams, an anesthesiologist who treated MJ in a dental office but decided yesterday or the day before they were not going to call him. I wonder if that is because on National TV, his attorney said Adams will be filing a civil suit against Murray for defamation as per Murray's statement made in his interview.

"In court papers, Murray’s attorneys said they wanted to call Dr. Klein, to the witness stand. The papers said Klein gave frequent injections of the painkiller Demerol to Jackson for “no valid medical purpose” and that “Jackson became physiologically and psychologically dependent on Demerol.”

“I do not think it is relevant,” Pastor ruled on Monday. Pastor also barred the testimony of five other doctors, but said he would allow defense attorneys to call two other physicians — Allen Metzger and David Adams."

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Old 10-27-2011, 02:43 PM
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Judge Michael Pastor agreed with the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office -- which opposed the defense's attempt to call Dr. Klein as a witness in the trial.


Judge Pastor stated that Dr. Klein's testimony isn't relevant to the case, and that it could confuse the jury.


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Old 10-27-2011, 02:43 PM
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*and he is not a chemist

sorry, ducking. LOL
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:46 PM
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Ha his chart misstates the medical records. Oh my............. I stand by my opinion that this expert is testifying as to who he is getting paid by. He is just coming across as not credible IMO and hope the jury agrees.
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Walgren's hands are shaking...look at the paper in his hands. He is working so hard for MJ.
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Ha his chart misstates the medical records. Oh my............. I stand by my opinion that this expert is testifying as to who he is getting paid by. He is just coming across as not credible IMO and hope the jury agrees.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:50 PM
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Ha his chart misstates the medical records. Oh my............. I stand by my opinion that this expert is testifying as to who he is getting paid by. He is just coming across as not credible IMO and hope the jury agrees.
YUP $$$$$ are his master in testifying.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:51 PM
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Ha his chart misstates the medical records. Oh my............. I stand by my opinion that this expert is testifying as to who he is getting paid by. He is just coming across as not credible IMO and hope the jury agrees.
Not only is he not credible, but it's shown, by Walgren, that he falsified
the information re MJ's visits to Dr klein & the meds/dosages he received.
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Walgren's hands are shaking...look at the paper in his hands. He is working so hard for MJ.
I just hope he doesn't lose it. He is getting angry because this guy is really being obstinate.

I will say this - Walgren has devalued his testimony. He is not coming across as credible at all.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:52 PM
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OH, Bull Hockey, Dr. Waldman
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Most of these questions would not need to have been asked or Walgren would have been better prepared had this expert handed in a written report.

Don't understand how he was allowed not to when the Judge was so adamant he wanted reports by the experts.

Good point, Credence. Who dropped the ball here? The DT or the MD. IMWTK.
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He just implicated Chernoff in sending him false information that his secretary used to put together those charts.

If he did not want to use the charts, he should not have submitted them.
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I think we should call this "chartgate"
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AHA! Dr W got caught in lying.... and giving wrong info as an addiction specialist!
Now he's back-peddling and saying he was referring to MJ's past addiction in the '80s & early '90s.

Hooray for Walgren for making Dr W's "correcting" himself.
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If that chart was not supposed to be used or even seen by anyone else then why was it given to the prosecution for review?
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In recess until 2 pm. Long lunch for the jurors.
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Wow what a morning. Lunch break until 2pm.
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I think we should call this "chartgate"
This is funny octobermoon.
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So what did you all think of this doctor? I really believe he attempted to tailor his testimony and everything he said should just be thrown out. What a quack.

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I guess he could back off a bit -- but the witness is really being obstinate too.
Agreed. Two bull dogs not wanting to give an inch. The MD seems not to be experienced in this type of court testimony -- or it could be that the DT told him that Wally was a real ______ (whatever you choose) and for him not to give him an inch. If so, no telling what the MD expected to see. Who knoze?

Seems a bit of tension is sticking to the walls here during this testimony. Wonder what we'll get with White? The room temp is already up a couple of notches.......
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Thank you everyone for the summaries with this testimony. It's been one of those up and down, in and out days at work. I haven't been able to sit and listen to this testimony. So thank you again.
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