GUILTY Vincent Tabak Guilty of MURDER Joanna Yeates Clifton, Bristol, 17 December 2010 - #17 - Page 8

whiterum · #**176** 01-19-2012, 01:46 PM

Oh dear at least 53, he'll be as old as the hills before he gets out!

otto · #**177** 01-25-2012, 03:22 AM

Was he 27 when he committed the murder? 25 years? That's a very long time for the pudgy, anti-social, smart guy. There's no guarantee that in 25 years he will be any less inclined to enjoy viewing women wearing jeans and t-shirts tied up in the back of his car. He's a cold man, going out to buy snacks after assaulting and murdering his neighbour, and before disposing of her body near a gravel pit next to a bike path.

He should not be out of sight at any time after release, as it will probably be the first thing he wants to see ... porn.

otto · #**178** 01-25-2012, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by whiterum

Oh dear at least 53, he'll be as old as the hills before he gets out!

53 isn't really that old, in a sense. A 53 year old would have no problem continuing with the type of psychological twist that we see in Vincent Tabak. His age wouldn't interfere with his psychopathy ... or whatever it is that makes him enjoy seeing women tortured to death. That will always be there, I think.

badhorsie · #**179** 01-25-2012, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by whiterum

Oh dear at least 53, he'll be as old as the hills before he gets out!

Yeppers, old as the hills

Badhorsie, 51 next month

Cherwell · #**180** 01-26-2012, 12:46 PM

I'm not assuming that he will be released. They may take the view that, given the chance to continue, this guy would very likely be a serial killer.

whiterum · #**181** 01-31-2012, 10:58 AM

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Yeppers, old as the hills

Badhorsie, 51 next month

Haha, I meant to say (I hope) he'll be as old as the hills before he gets out, but 53 is still quite young but a far cry from 33. Age 93 would be a better age to be considered for release, he's unlikely then to do any other innocent harm, providing he hasn't kicked the bucket by then.

wfgodot · #**182** 01-31-2012, 11:04 AM

58 in April here. They should keep him at least that long. Released, he'll then be a phlegmy old stumblebum, lucky to arise from bed each day!

kINGFISHER · #**183** 01-31-2012, 02:47 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16638227

Vincent Tabak, 33, sentenced to life in jail with a minimum term of 20 year

whiterum · #**184** 02-02-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wfgodot

58 in April here. They should keep him at least that long. Released, he'll then be a phlegmy old stumblebum, lucky to arise from bed each day!

LOL with trembling, bandy legs and only a few hairs under his cap.

kINGFISHER · #**185** 03-27-2012, 11:35 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ma...tests-trainers

kINGFISHER · #**186** 03-27-2012, 11:42 AM

What do they mean by hidden trainers, deliberate, or not.

Cherwell · #**187** 03-27-2012, 07:55 PM

Since it was established that the blood spot was not connected with the murder, and that Mr Jefferies clearly had nothing to do with it, I can't see any reason why he would deliberately hide the items. Perhaps they merely mean 'hidden' in the sense of 'not in plain sight'.

kINGFISHER · #**188** 03-28-2012, 03:19 AM

Very odd place to hide a pair of trainers under a kitchen unit behind the kickboard especially as there was blood on them and after all this was a major piece of evidence against him .Was the dna analysis not conclusive ,we don't know, do we? and what profile did they find from their analysis.
I would think this information would add further concern, rather than reassure those who thought he could not be involved. The questioning of VT about his mobile and who he called seems a bit strange too , I can't see how he can sue under these circumstances . Wonder if he thought this would not come out in the Leveson inquiry.

Cherwell · #**189** 03-28-2012, 06:35 PM

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Very odd place to hide a pair of trainers under a kitchen unit behind the kickboard

I didn't read that they were behind the kickboard, can you give a source for that?
Mind you, I must admit I found all sorts of odds and ends when I cleared ours out last year

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Was the dna analysis not conclusive ,we don't know, do we? and what profile did they find from their analysis.
I would think this information would add further concern, rather than reassure those who thought he could not be involved.

No, we don't know the details, but there is no reason why we should be told any. Clearly it was conclusive as Mr Jefferies was ruled out as a suspect.

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The questioning of VT about his mobile and who he called seems a bit strange too , I can't see how he can sue under these circumstances . Wonder if he thought this would not come out in the Leveson inquiry.

Not sure what you're talking about here. If you're referring to CJ, then I agree that I can't see that he has any grounds for suing for wrongful arrest. I was always a bit dubious about that. He was an obvious suspect if only by virtue of being a keyholder.

Cherwell · #**190** 03-29-2012, 06:17 AM

OK, found it now - the page was unavailable when I was searching yesterday. The Bristol Evening Post tended to be much more accurate than the nationals throughout this case.

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"In particular there was a pair of trainers which were found in Mr Jefferies' house which were hidden underneath a kitchen unit behind a kickboard.
"Those trainers had a blood spot on them. That was initially analysed, and because of a sensitive forensic technique which had to be used, eventually a DNA profile was found and Mr Jefferies could be eliminated."

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"It is worth emphasising that I had told no more than three neighbours about that second statement to the police and they all subsequently assured me that they were not the source of the information that then appeared in the media," Mr Jefferies told the inquiry.

But who else did they tell, eh?

otto · #**191** 08-17-2012, 05:03 AM

I guess it's possible that Tabak bumped into Joanna at the mailboxes (that was discussed), she left first and he followed her or he left first and cut around to the back. The furniture at the front entrance was broken, but her purse and phone were on the dining room table. It was apparent that there had been a struggle at the front door. It sounds like she was jumped when she had her key in the lock, managed to get her footing, put her things on the table, put the beer on the kitchen counter ... the pizza disappeared (eaten by the neighbour) ... she was murdered in the bedroom. It wasn't until about 9:30 that he put her body in the back of the car went shopping for chips.

I think that it's somewhat fascinating that a sociopath like this has written a thesis on people management.