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Old 10-31-2011, 09:41 PM
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In 1976 the population of Conroe was close to 17,000. I doubt it would be that much more in 1979.

"Two and a half hours after she was last seen at the pier deputy L.B. Robinson arrived at the home of Lesia’s parents."
source: [PDF] PoliceNews Mont. Dec07
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Another possibility is that a serial killer, let's say from somewhere in or around Montgomery County owned a beach house at any of the beach or fishing locales off south I-45. If we have a person traveling back and forth between Galveston and Montgomery Co. routinely, it could lessen the number of possible suspects. it's a straight shot down I-45, and 68 miles or approx. 1 1/2 hours depending on traffic from Conroe to League City.
It's an hour and 40 mins. depending on traffic to get from Conroe to Galveston Island. This is not an unreasonable assumption to make distance wise. Much could depend on what kind of job a person had and how much free time he had.

I haven't taken a look at any time lines or checked out all the missiing or deceased women yet, but we could very well have at least one killer familiar with both territories, enough so that he felt completely comfortable operating in either locale. Obviously, some deaths have been attributed to certain people, but for the numerous others who remain unaccounted for as to their killers, we could look for a tie in between Galveston, Alvin, League City, Seabrook etc., and Montgomery County.

Thanks for all your work, JeannieC in looking up these old, cold cases. It's something that really needed doing, and is going to be so very helpful.

I want to add a very famous Texas case out of Montgomery Co. to this list, and that is the case of
Cheryl Dee Ferguson, a Bellville, TX volleyball player who was killed at Conroe High School August 23,1980. Clarence Brandley was framed, tried, convicted, and sentenced to death row for her murder, only to be released 10 years later. Two other names pop up as possible suspects, who like Brandley were employed at the school as janitors. I can't for the life of me understand why neither was ever charged, and one of them is possibly the killer of leisha Jackson, a Montgomery Co. girl. WTH was going on up in Montgomery County, and why haven't these men ever been charged? In the Ferguson case, the two were identified by eye witnesses as grabbing the girl who pleaded for help. In the other case, the possible perp lived a stone's throw from the victim, per info garnered from another site with similar focus as WS.

So here we have two cases with one possible perp involved in both. There are other murders that possibly fit. Wether or not this guy had any ties to the bays and beach locales, I haven't the foggiest as yet. But if not him, perhaps another possible perp might be out there who does have ties to both areas.
Great information! We'll have to get these girls listed here with pictures. Others might know something and can add to this. The more information we gather the better chance of solving these case.

HOPE LE IS READING! WE'RE HERE TO HELP!
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
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In 1976 the population of Conroe was close to 17,000. I doubt it would be that much more in 1979.

"Two and a half hours after she was last seen at the pier deputy L.B. Robinson arrived at the home of Lesia’s parents."
source: [PDF] PoliceNews Mont. Dec07
thepolicenews.net/html/tpnpwdec07.pdf


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Justthinkin, can you post that with a link?
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
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This is lengthy reading, but worth it. It pertains to the Clarence Brandley case, and mentions the names of the other two POIs in the murder of Cheryl Ferguson.
http://books.google.com/books?id=ICo...binson&f=false
WOW! So much information. We have Robinson who sold Amway and worked as a janitor at a school. At that time, Amway was sold door to door............

Acremen talked to Cheryl before her murder. A school janitor, taxi driver in Tx, long distance truck driver............

and of course Brandley, school janitor.

Then we have a non-responsive DA and over zealous LD tester!

Not an "innocent" one in the bunch!
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:34 AM
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1980 Case # 80-2138
Murder of Barbara Gale Whitten
July 8, 1980 – Wooded area, south of Roman Forest Blvd, New Caney, Texas
SYNOPSIS: At approximately 2:00 pm, a witness responded to the sight
of smoke in the area of the scene. Upon arrival, the witness observed what
appeared to be a log on fire and a 1976 – 1977 medium blue Chevrolet
Nova parked nearby. The Nova had what appeared to be two navy blue
racing stripes on the side. Two white males were observed closing the
vehicle trunk and upon entering the car, the males fled on Roman Forest
Blvd. MCSO Deputies responded and found that the fire involved a dead
body of a black female. Two freshly dug shallow holes were located
nearby. The victim was later identified by dental records as Barbara Gale
Whitten (23 yoa) from Wipprecht Street in Houston, Texas. An autopsy
revealed that she had been shot multiple times with a 22-caliber firearm.
In 1983, self-professed Serial Killer Henry Lee Lucas subsequently
confessed to several murders in Montgomery County, along with approx.
600 murders elsewhere. Investigators in 1983 thought that Lucas might
have been involved in Whitten’s murder. Lucas died in prison in 2001,
after his death sentence was commuted to life. Lucas had recanted his
confessions and it is believed that he is not responsible for most of the
crimes he confessed too.
http://www.woodlandsonline.com/dbs/s...e/COLDCASE.pdf
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:43 AM
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[QUOTE]1985 Case # 85-28903
Unidentified Human Skeletal Remains


November 29, 1985 – Lake Conroe, @ Rush Creek, Conroe, Texas
SYNOPSIS: On November 29, 1985, a citizen was fishing in Lake
Conroe, at Rush Creek, and hooked a human skull. MCSO Deputies
investigated and observed that the skull bore writing, which included
references to Japanese and World War II.
MCSO Cold Case Detectives
have submitted the remains for DNA testing, Anthropological Analysis,
and submission to the Missing Persons / Unidentified DNA database.[/quote]

http://www.woodlandsonline.com/dbs/s...e/COLDCASE.pdf
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/
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1995 Case # 95A011175
Unidentified Human Skeletal Remains
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August 31, 1995 – Comer-Reinhart Rd ½ mile north of FM 1485, New Caney, Texas
SYNOPSIS: On August 31, 1995, a timber cutting crew unearthed
human skeletal remains in a concealed wooded area near the railroad
tracks, which was commonly used for illegal dumping. MCSO Deputies
responded and additional human remains were recovered from a shallow
grave at this location. Examination by experts revealed a possible
description: White or Hispanic female, 17 – 25 years of age, between
5’3” and 5’5” in height, a pearl type necklace and part of a “deck”
type shoe found with remains. MCSO Cold Case Detectives have
submitted the remains for DNA testing and submission to the Missing
Persons / Unidentified DNA database.
http://www.woodlandsonline.com/dbs/s...e/COLDCASE.pdf
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/
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1998 Case # 98A008113
Unidentified Human Skeletal Remains
June 11, 1998, – 600 block of Airline Drive, Conroe, Texas
SYNOPSIS: On June 11, 1998, a citizen was walking in a wooded area
behind his home in the 600 block of Airline Drive (Conroe, Texas) when
he observed what appeared to be the top portion of a skull protruding
from the ground. MCSO Deputies investigated and recovered additional
skeletal remains, along with a blue or black ball cap with a “Lone Star
Feed” logo. MCSO Cold Case Detectives have submitted the remains
for DNA testing and submission to the Missing Persons / Unidentified
DNA database.
http://www.woodlandsonline.com/dbs/s...e/COLDCASE.pdf
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/
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1998 Case # 98A011288
Unidentified Human Skeletal Remains
August 6, 1998 – 21000 block of Baptist Encampment Rd, New Caney, Texas
SYNOPSIS: On August 6, 1998, children playing in an abandoned
house in the 21000 block of Baptist Encampment Road (New Caney,
Texas) discovered human skeletal remains. MCSO Deputies
investigated and found that the remains were located on top of the
ground just inside the doorway. The area was flood prone. MCSO Cold
Case Detectives have submitted the remains for DNA testing,
Anthropological Analysis, and submission to the Missing Persons /
Unidentified DNA database
http://www.woodlandsonline.com/dbs/s...e/COLDCASE.pdf
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/
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2002 Case # 02A000645
Unidentified Human Skeletal Remains

January 12, 2002 – 20000 block of Hwy 105 East, Cleveland, Texas
SYNOPSIS: On January 12, 2002, MCSO Deputies met with a citizen
that had purchased an iron cauldron at a flea market located in the 20000
block of Hwy 105 East, Cleveland, Texas. The cauldron contained
books on the occult, along with a human skull. Investigation revealed
that the above articles had been purchased from a self-storage unit in
Houston, Texas, after nonpayment of rent. MCSO Cold Case Detectives have submitted the remains for DNA testing and submission to the
Missing Persons / Unidentified DNA database.
http://www.woodlandsonline.com/dbs/s...e/COLDCASE.pdf

OK.....throw things at me if you want, I just have to say it..........Be careful what you leave in your storage unit!
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/
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2002 Case # 02A018522
Unidentified Human Skeletal Remains
October 15, 2002 – Peach Creek Bridge @ Faulkner Rd, Cleveland, Texas
SYNOPSIS: On October 15, 2002, a citizen was checking Peach Creek
Bridge on Faulkner Road (Cleveland, Texas) and observed what
appeared to be a skull in the water. The MCSO Dive Team searched the
creek for additional remains, but none was found. MCSO Cold Case
Detectives have submitted the remains for DNA testing, Anthropological
Analysis, and submission to the Missing Persons / Unidentified DNA
database.
http://www.woodlandsonline.com/dbs/s...e/COLDCASE.pdf
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/
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Barbara Gale Whitten plus 4 others...

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Wed., Sep. 22 2010
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba..._montgomer.php

Killing Fields North? Montgomery County Detective Looks Anew Into '80s Cases of Five Slain Women

A Montgomery County detective has detected a possible pattern in five murders committed between 1980 and 1983.

More at the above link.


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http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba..._montgomer.php

Killing Fields North? Montgomery County Detective Looks Anew Into '80s Cases of Five Slain Women

A Montgomery County detective has detected a possible pattern in five murders committed between 1980 and 1983.

More at the above link.




Good article. Thanks for posting it. Killing Fields North sounds right!
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/
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I have choosen to post missing and murdered from MONTGOMERY COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE Cold Case Squad – Homicide because I believe some of these cases are related to the killing fields. Some bodies have been recovered and some have not.

Serial Killers move around. One killing in Montgomery County probably killed in other counties surrounding Houston and Fort Worth. I believe there were several moving around in this area of Texas.

Some serial killers move the bodies to other areas so it is highly likely we could find someone missing from one county and remains located in another.

All of these cases are relevant to murders at the time. imo

I have not listed all the missing and murdered from Montgomery County. Please go out and take a look. Very frightening!

http://www.woodlandsonline.com/dbs/s...e/COLDCASE.pdf
This case is so vast and there are so many persons involved.
I need to drop an anchor in this sea of madness to create a starting point. And perhaps others can choose a starting point for themselves and work outward over time. We may just connect somewhere along the way, and can look for familiarities to specific crimes.

I am going to stay with you
JeannieC in Montgomery County.
As we investigate and expand outward over time, I will be able to return to my starting point of Montgomery County if things start to become extremely confusing or overwhelming. And then start again.
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This case is so vast and there are so many persons involved.
I need to drop an anchor in this sea of madness to create a starting point. And perhaps others can choose a starting point for themselves and work outward over time. We may just connect somewhere along the way, and can look for familiarities to specific crimes.

I am going to stay with you
JeannieC in Montgomery County.
As we investigate and expand outward over time, I will be able to return to my starting point of Montgomery County if things start to become extremely confusing or overwhelming. And then start again.
Thanks so much. You seem to have a pretty good handle on this. You are so right, this is overwhelming! I'm still wondering about the weapon of choice, a .22. I wonder if that is just the gun used most often during that period of time. I'm not up to speed on guns.

Also, those that were strangled. I noticed a difference in how they were listed. Whether it was just the spokesperson or if there is a difference, I don't know.

For instance some were listed as strangulation, ligature strangulation, manual stranglulation. Some with the use of a toothbrush. Some with stockings stuffed in their mouth.

Is manual with the hands only and is it the same thing as strangulation? Is stuffing something in a person's mouth the cause of death or was that in addition to strangling them.

Subtle differences but possibly important. I'm not sure. Would the same person use different methods to strangle a person and shoot the next victim? Can a perp be identified if they change their MO on each victim?

These murders don't appear to be the same person but identifying who was murdered by one perp is tough!
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



Write to:
Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/
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I believe the perp(s) did cross county lines in some cases and if we searched other states we would probably find the exact same MO's there. I'm thinking Louisiana
but I haven't checked. I have enough here for now! lol

If the heat was on, some of these perps just might have moved on or they could have been people who traveled in and out of the area on a regular basis.

Hard to know but of the few who were caught, I believe at least two were caught in another state. Louisiana and NC if my memory serves me correctly.
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



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Thanks so much. You seem to have a pretty good handle on this. You are so right, this is overwhelming! I'm still wondering about the weapon of choice, a .22. I wonder if that is just the gun used most often during that period of time. I'm not up to speed on guns.

Also, those that were strangled. I noticed a difference in how they were listed. Whether it was just the spokesperson or if there is a difference, I don't know.

For instance some were listed as strangulation, ligature strangulation, manual stranglulation. Some with the use of a toothbrush. Some with stockings stuffed in their mouth.

Is manual with the hands only and is it the same thing as strangulation? Is stuffing something in a person's mouth the cause of death or was that in addition to strangling them.

Subtle differences but possibly important. I'm not sure. Would the same person use different methods to strangle a person and shoot the next victim? Can a perp be identified if they change their MO on each victim?

These murders don't appear to be the same person but identifying who was murdered by one perp is tough!
Manual would be the hands. ligature would be used with a rope string and the toothbrush. this method causes a slow death or fast death depending upon the person doing it. turn it slowly and take them to the brink of death, then release it and have them regain consciousness. Its used for torturing the victim. As far as the pantyhose. Its my theory the hose in the mouth is not what killed them. It was the killer using something to shoved the hose farther down her throat which cause her to choked to death. Another form of demonic pleasure. They enjoyed letting there victim know she was going to die and it would be a slow agonizing death.
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Manual would be the hands. ligature would be used with a rope string and the toothbrush. this method causes a slow death or fast death depending upon the person doing it. turn it slowly and take them to the brink of death, then release it and have them regain consciousness. Its used for torturing the victim. As far as the pantyhose. Its my theory the hose in the mouth is not what killed them. It was the killer using something to shoved the hose farther down her throat which cause her to choked to death. Another form of demonic pleasure. They enjoyed letting there victim know she was going to die and it would be a slow agonizing death.
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This is a really perverted sick individual or individuals as the case may be. I didn't understand the reason for the toothbrush or the pantyhose.

Wasn't there another serial killer very well known who used this method. Was it Rodney Alcala or am I thinking about the wrong person?

The bite marks on some victims is another thing. All the victims weren't bitten. Only a few and only one was biten and strangled with her panties. This is something I've also seen in another serial killer (both the bite mark and the strangulation with panties) but can't remember who it was and haven't been able to find it anywhere I've looked.
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Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



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Another possibility is that a serial killer, let's say from somewhere in or around Montgomery County owned a beach house at any of the beach or fishing locales off south I-45. If we have a person traveling back and forth between Galveston and Montgomery Co. routinely, it could lessen the number of possible suspects. it's a straight shot down I-45, and 68 miles or approx. 1 1/2 hours depending on traffic from Conroe to League City.
It's an hour and 40 mins. depending on traffic to get from Conroe to Galveston Island. This is not an unreasonable assumption to make distance wise. Much could depend on what kind of job a person had and how much free time he had.

I haven't taken a look at any time lines or checked out all the missiing or deceased women yet, but we could very well have at least one killer familiar with both territories, enough so that he felt completely comfortable operating in either locale. Obviously, some deaths have been attributed to certain people, but for the numerous others who remain unaccounted for as to their killers, we could look for a tie in between Galveston, Alvin, League City, Seabrook etc., and Montgomery County.

Thanks for all your work, JeannieC in looking up these old, cold cases. It's something that really needed doing, and is going to be so very helpful.

I want to add a very famous Texas case out of Montgomery Co. to this list, and that is the case of
Cheryl Dee Ferguson, a Bellville, TX volleyball player who was killed at Conroe High School August 23,1980. Clarence Brandley was framed, tried, convicted, and sentenced to death row for her murder, only to be released 10 years later. Two other names pop up as possible suspects, who like Brandley were employed at the school as janitors. I can't for the life of me understand why neither was ever charged, and one of them is possibly the killer of leisha Jackson, a Montgomery Co. girl. WTH was going on up in Montgomery County, and why haven't these men ever been charged? In the Ferguson case, the two were identified by eye witnesses as grabbing the girl who pleaded for help. In the other case, the possible perp lived a stone's throw from the victim, per info garnered from another site with similar focus as WS.

So here we have two cases with one possible perp involved in both. There are other murders that possibly fit. Wether or not this guy had any ties to the bays and beach locales, I haven't the foggiest as yet. But if not him, perhaps another possible perp might be out there who does have ties to both areas.
I remember the Bradley case well, I went to Conroe High School. The I45 killings spooked us all out, well into the 90's. (and yes, we all assumed they were related from Conroe to Galveston)

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In 1976 the population of Conroe was close to 17,000. I doubt it would be that much more in 1979.

"Two and a half hours after she was last seen at the pier deputy L.B. Robinson arrived at the home of Lesia’s parents."
source: [PDF] PoliceNews Mont. Dec07
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The population of Conroe proper may be decieving given that it didn't take in the population of the surrounding communities. My brothers graduating class at Conroe High in 1976 was almost a thousand students. This was long before the Woodlands, Oakridge and even New Caney had new schools for students in outlying areas.
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I remember the Bradley case well, I went to Conroe High School. The I45 killings spooked us all out, well into the 90's.
The Bradley case is baffeling. Well, all of them are. I can't imagine living there during this time. Well, actually 30 years of it!

The thing I don't understand is with DNA testing why more of these cases haven't been solved. Makes me wonder if the perp(s) were under the radar. No arrests, never in trouble. Possibly to all appearances, regular people.

The idea of a beach house and possibly traveling to Montgomery County makes sense. Live one place, work another maybe?

Traveling salesman, local trucker, taxi driver, tow truck driver, delivery person. Lots of possibilities!
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



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I wish I were better at maps. I'd love to have a map with all the areas where the persons went missing and the areas where the bodies were located. Maybe an overlay map. All the victims not just those in the fields. Montgomery County to Galveston.

Might show some kind of pattern or possible routes. Maybe not.........

We do need a good timeline. I'll try to get that worked up for all victims. Might take a while. I'm recooperating from a hospital visit and keep getting sleepy. lol

Might have a pattern in the timeline especially with the inclusion of Montgomery County.

Can't hurt to look at every possibility. Put our heads together and see what we think.
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



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The Bradley case is baffeling. Well, all of them are. I can't imagine living there during this time. Well, actually 30 years of it!

The thing I don't understand is with DNA testing why more of these cases haven't been solved. Makes me wonder if the perp(s) were under the radar. No arrests, never in trouble. Possibly to all appearances, regular people.

The idea of a beach house and possibly traveling to Montgomery County makes sense. Live one place, work another maybe?

Traveling salesman, local trucker, taxi driver, tow truck driver, delivery person. Lots of possibilities!
A beach house or local truck driver would definitely make sense. Galveston is the closest salt water, so a fisherman was my first thought. We spent many, many, many weekends in Galveston. As a matter of fact, that was where I was born.

The general thought was that this was someone that lived in the Conroe area and traveled frequently to Galveston. Even as Conroe grew it was a pretty close knit community, especially before the new schools farther out were built. Everyone went to school together. (like the link above that shows the population in 1796 as 17k, there were almost 4k students in the high school alone at that time.) So if you didn't know someone directly, you knew them through someone else. I think that is why more of the bodies turned up on South 45, instead of his own backyard.

That yes, he was a normal guy that wouldn't stick out.

eta: I need to go back and read up because I haven't followed up on any of these cases in a loooong time.
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A beach house or local truck driver would definitely make sense. Galveston is the closest salt water, so a fisherman was my first thought. We spent many, many, many weekends in Galveston. As a matter of fact, that was where I was born.

The general thought was that this was someone that lived in the Conroe area and traveled frequently to Galveston. Even as Conroe grew it was a pretty close knit community, especially before the new schools farther out were built. Everyone went to school together. (like the link above that shows the population in 1796 as 17k, there were almost 4k students in the high school alone at that time.) So if you didn't know someone directly, you knew them through someone else. I think that is why more of the bodies turned up on South 45, instead of his own backyard.

That yes, he was a normal guy that wouldn't stick out.



eta: I need to go back and read up because I haven't followed up on any of these cases in a loooong time.
I hadn't thought of a fisherman. Do they have commercial fishing in the area? Canneries? Fish being moved from one area to another on a regular basis?

Are there a lot of people who live there on a seasonal basis?
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A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

Suspect in the murders of:
5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



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NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
P.O. Box 29540
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I wish I were better at maps. I'd love to have a map with all the areas where the persons went missing and the areas where the bodies were located. Maybe an overlay map. All the victims not just those in the fields. Montgomery County to Galveston.

Might show some kind of pattern or possible routes. Maybe not.........

We do need a good timeline. I'll try to get that worked up for all victims. Might take a while. I'm recooperating from a hospital visit and keep getting sleepy. lol

Might have a pattern in the timeline especially with the inclusion of Montgomery County.

Can't hurt to look at every possibility. Put our heads together and see what we think.
I would like to think that the LEOs have already done that.
They should have a map created over time that shows everything in detail. From dates times found etc etc etc.

And it is visual aids such as this you mentioned, that I wish they would release so we could use it as a tool here in the killing fields.

A better name would have been "The killers field"
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