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Old 01-03-2012, 12:34 AM
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Arrow Mike P as 'Friend' of Aliahna???

Some questioned whether Ali's reference to staying w a 'friend' referred to Mike P.

IIRC Mike P listed Ali on his FBk & other sites as 'friend.'
She cd/hv/bn aware of that, cd/hv/like idea of being friend w. him.

I can see how kids would view Mike as a 'friend' and might refer to him as such (even tho the thought sickens us).

Or as others said, she c/hv/bn referring to a school buddy, for a sleepover that fizzled out, then the stay w. mike P developed.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:01 AM
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I don't care how bad the mom's flu was, the kids could have still slept at home in their own beds. Stepdad could have gotten them before he went on his night shift and taken them home to rest and watch videos until they fell asleep. No reason for them to be sleeping in some other trailer, imo.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:33 AM
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Exactly none of their excuses make sense and they are flat out lies.IMO.
I've been working third shift for 15years for the very reason that I can be home with my child during the day and I wouldn't miss work if she is sick.It doesn't make any sense.I have never heard of a mom needing a baby sitter because she is down with the flu.If she was really that sick maybe she could use help during the day which stepdad could have easily provided ,at night the kids are sleeping anyways so there is no reason whatsoever to have them spend the night anywhere but home.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:45 AM
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Grandma said two of the children slept on the floor while being babysitted by MP. Did anyone even care to pack up their toys, books, or whatever else?
oh they didn't need toys,per grandma Uncle Mike was playing games with them on the floor
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:10 AM
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I see no reason to doubt that the friend Ali was referring to was her good buddy Mike. I imagine that he was great with kids (when he wasn't killing them).

I find it interesting that the media is staying very quiet in their investigations of this story other than their comments about Mike.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:59 AM
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I doubt that any of the people involved in Ali's life plan to come forward with any information publicly or to LE. It sounds like she was surrounded by nothing but shady people her entire life. People that don't want people looking into their lives... especially LE.

I also think that DCF is going to add another failed child to their list. There is no way that DCF was not involved with this family after Ali had been sexually abused twice. No way!
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:18 AM
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I doubt that any of the people involved in Ali's life plan to come forward with any information publicly or to LE. It sounds like she was surrounded by nothing but shady people her entire life. People that don't want people looking into their lives... especially LE.

I also think that DCF is going to add another failed child to their list. There is no way that DCF was not involved with this family after Ali had been sexually abused twice. No way!
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Absolutely they were involved. But then her mother took her out of state and didn't tell DCF, I'm sure. How were they to keep tabs on Ali when they had no idea where she was???
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:22 AM
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At the beginning I really suspected we would find a porn ring of some sort but I don't believe it anymore.The players are much too basic IMO ,I don't think they were producing ,trading or anything of that nature any longer.IMO the sad,sad reality is that most of the players here are extremely damaged from the very start.I think it's just that vicious circle again,the same environment we saw in the Haileigh Cummings case.
I now really beleive TS was incapable of taking care of her children after her father's death,IMO he was molesting her since she was a child but she was devestated by his death,paralyzed.
It seems that in that environment molestation is almost too common,as if the boys don't know common sense boundaries.It seems like an almost feral lifestyle.
If you like it ,you touch it and if you 're mad you use violence.
I'm really concerned that it now seems TS son K had frequent head wounds and a broken nose.I think all that becomes aparent in this case to us is an unimaginable drama,so sick ,so twisted,so disgusting but to the players it seems sad but not as bad because IMO they all lived it and they don't know any other way of life.That's why they're all connected and seem to protect each other IMO
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:13 AM
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Some questioned whether Ali's reference to staying w a 'friend' referred to Mike P.

IIRC Mike P listed Ali on his FBk & other sites as 'friend.'
She cd/hv/bn aware of that, cd/hv/like idea of being friend w. him.

I can see how kids would view Mike as a 'friend' and might refer to him as such (even tho the thought sickens us).

Or as others said, she c/hv/bn referring to a school buddy, for a sleepover that fizzled out, then the stay w. mike P developed.
I think it was MP she was referring to and that you are right about her having liked being his friend (remember the drawing she made for him).

If it had been a school friend (1) she would have said so to the friend she told ("I'm going to Cindy's," or whatever), and (2) it would probably already have been mentioned, when they were giving their explanation of the timeline and events. MOO
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:13 AM
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My BIG question before I run off to work: I would love to know if the girls had stayed with Uncle Mike overnight before all this.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:13 AM
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My BIG question before I run off to work: I would love to know if the girls had stayed with Uncle Mike overnight before all this.
yes and how comfortable they were going over there....
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:16 AM
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I think it was MP she was referring to and that you are right about her having liked being his friend (remember the drawing she made for him).
I havn't heard about that. So sad.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:45 AM
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I think someone was able to find the anniversary for stepdad and TS. If I'm not mistaken that anniversary was during the time that the girls were with MP. I;m starting to think mother was not sick at all, had no fever or flu, but rather she and stepfather had a rather severe case of fornication induced exhaustion. MOO.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:52 AM
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I think someone was able to find the anniversary for stepdad and TS. If I'm not mistaken that anniversary was during the time that the girls were with MP. I;m starting to think mother was not sick at all, had no fever or flu, but rather she and stepfather had a rather severe case of fornication induced exhaustion. MOO.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:13 AM
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I read on another website a couple days ago that Mom wasn't even home while the girls stayed with MP. Out of town. Rumor I know, but it's a possibility?
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:30 PM
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She must have been home when she called 911 on Friday evening. Other than that, I don't know.
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I see no reason to doubt that the friend Ali was referring to was her good buddy Mike. I imagine that he was great with kids (when he wasn't killing them).

I find it interesting that the media is staying very quiet in their investigations of this story other than their comments about Mike.

I find it very odd and concerning that the media isnt all over this story. All children that are missing and/or found deceased should be covered, however this is so gruesome and so much more to the story it seems.. why is there no coverage. I thought at least Nancy Grace would be all over this with a family tree mapped out.. but no she covered somthing that could of been summed up in 10 minutes. I do not think she is covering this tonight either.

I do not understand why. This a horrific case and more media needs to be on this not just to report but to get across to people .. you do NOT let girls or boys for that matter befriend a male or family "friend" and have sleepovers. I think at the very LEAST that aspect should be covered.. I am baffled on that.
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I find it very odd and concerning that the media isnt all over this story. All children that are missing and/or found deceased should be covered, however this is so gruesome and so much more to the story it seems.. why is there no coverage. I thought at least Nancy Grace would be all over this with a family tree mapped out.. but no she covered somthing that could of been summed up in 10 minutes. I do not think she is covering this tonight either.

I do not understand why. This a horrific case and more media needs to be on this not just to report but to get across to people .. you do NOT let girls or boys for that matter befriend a male or family "friend" and have sleepovers. I think at the very LEAST that aspect should be covered.. I am baffled on that.
I thought the same, why not cover this? I wonder if it is just too much (dismemberment).
I think that for some if they don't know about it,it didn't happen.
I think for others it's an act that is unspeakable and can't comprehend one human being doing that to another human being.
jmo but I look at the individuals at play in this tragic event and can't see anything good coming from these people,anything. No child born to these people stands a chance in life at being truly happy jmo
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:42 PM
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How likely is it that LE asked the media to keep tight lipped while they conduct their investigation?
IDK but things are very quiet. imoo
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:50 PM
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LE doesn't have the ability to keep media being quiet, because we have freedom of the press.
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Could it be delayed because of the recent holidays and staff was minimal?
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I thought the same, why not cover this? I wonder if it is just too much (dismemberment).
I think that for some if they don't know about it,it didn't happen.
I think for others it's an act that is unspeakable and can't comprehend one human being doing that to another human being.
jmo but I look at the individuals at play in this tragic event and can't see anything good coming from these people,anything. No child born to these people stands a chance in life at being truly happy jmo
This is just my opinion, and I have no facts to back this up, but I think that (sadly) the social class of the people involved, the fact that this child is no longer missing, and the circumstances of the case have a lot to do with the reason this isn't being covered.

If this had been a middle-class child in a middle-class suburban neighborhood, it would be all over the media IMO (and MOO).

In regards to reasons why the mother was not available during that week, I wonder if drugs have something to do with it. I wonder if she and her husband were on some sort of drug binge?
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I find it very odd and concerning that the media isnt all over this story. All children that are missing and/or found deceased should be covered, however this is so gruesome and so much more to the story it seems.. why is there no coverage. I thought at least Nancy Grace would be all over this with a family tree mapped out.. but no she covered somthing that could of been summed up in 10 minutes. I do not think she is covering this tonight either.

I do not understand why. This a horrific case and more media needs to be on this not just to report but to get across to people .. you do NOT let girls or boys for that matter befriend a male or family "friend" and have sleepovers. I think at the very LEAST that aspect should be covered.. I am baffled on that.
I totally agree. I've brought this up in conversation with folks over the last few days and they've had NO IDEA that this even happened - and have even commented "Has it been on the news??"

Just today - I spoke with a friend who's a child psychologist and asked "So what are your thoughts on the case about the little girl who was murdered over Christmas." No idea what I was talking about (although they did ask if I meant the baby up in Maine had been found? That would be Ayla....) -- then I said - "The one that was dismembered in a trailer less than 100 feet from where she lived with her mother and stepfather....." --- and NO IDEA what I was talking about.

I can't figure out WHY this isn't being covered?
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It's been on the news quite a bit from what I could tell from MI. There are tons of media articles, news broadcasts, blog postings. I post anything regarding Aliahna or Plumadore on FB and most people know what I am talking about. JVM covered it, NG covered it, my local news in Mid- Michigan covered it.

It's gotten decent coverage. Not Caylee coverage, but still pretty good compared to, say, Jhessye Shockley.
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My BIG question before I run off to work: I would love to know if the girls had stayed with Uncle Mike overnight before all this.
I do not think this was the first, second or third time. I think it was a regular thing. Maybe not weekly, but numerous times over a long term period.
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