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Old 03-21-2012, 12:18 PM
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  • "We share the same thirst for blood, we love to see it pour," McClintic wrote. "As they beg for pain, we inflict it even more."
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McClintic says she endorsed what it was to be a gang member. Defense asks her why? #rafferty
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:19 PM
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  • McClintic says she doesn't refer to her self as a "murderous *****" often. A second letter is being shown. It has a gang sign on it
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In the top of the letter it says "I just railed the rest of my Prozac" McClintic says she did it regularly. #rafferty
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RaffertyLFP: Derstine reads a rap like poem that McClintic wrote to antoher Inmate - share "thirst for blood" and inflict pain

Defense shows another letter written to someone. McClintic identifies it as something she wrote

McClintic identified symbol in letter as a cripps gang symbol.

McClintic says she didn't necessarily think f herself as a gang member. But did "represent" them. Held their colors

McClintic says she endorsed what it was to be a gang member. Defense asks her why?

In the top of the letter it says "I just railed the rest of my Prozac" McClintic says she did it regularly

McClintic says she got in several fights while in custody

RaffertyLFP: McClintic's letter refers to her and her friends as "murderous *****es
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  • McClintic says she "represents" the crips. She "wore their colours". Derstine says she "endorsed their culture and style of life."
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McClintic says she got in several fights while in custody #rafferty
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  • Derstine points out gang tag on McClintic's letter she admits she was gang member
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Defense looking for her to put a number on how man fights she has been in. McClintic won't admit to "all the time" or "constantly" #rafferty
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Defense looking for her to put a number on how man fights she has been in. McClintic won't admit to "all the time" or "constantly

In another letter Derstine produced, McClintic drew a three-point Crips crown. "You represented for them," says Derstine. "Why?"

McClintic referred to herself and her friend as "murderous b***hes," and "two of a kind" in the poem.

It says "real motherf'n Gs" on letter McClintic wrote in custody to friend

RaffertyLFP: Derstine points out McClinitic letter in which she describes herself as real mother_____ gangster

Derstine asks McClintic why she "endorsed" the Crips. "Because that's the life I choose to live

Chose, sorry. McClintic was speaking in past tense

McClintic says she identified with the gang culture

Defense shows two letters by McClintic that say "murderous *****es" something she said she don't use to refer to he and her friend

McClintic says she used to adopt a "gang" speech pattern. Part of her gang persona.

McClintic says he would snort adderall prescribed to her. Says it was frequent
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  • Letter describes violent incidents in custody. McClintic doesn't remember them. She says there were "several".
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It says "real mother****in Gs" on letter McClintic wrote in custody to friend. #rafferty
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  • Derstine suggests she had violent incidents "all the time". McClintic disagrees.
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McClintic says she identified with the gang culture. #rafferty
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  • McClintic describes herself and a fellow inmate as "real mother ****ing g's" and murderous *****es on another letter.
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  • Derstine points out McClinitic letter in which she describes herself as real mother_____ gangster"
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Defense shows two letters by McClintic that say "murderous *****es" something she said she don't use to refer to he and her friend #rafferty
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  • Now being shown another letter McC had written where she calls herself and friends "real mu'f----- G's" "thick N thin" and "Life N Death"
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McClintic says she used to adopt a "gang" speech pattern. Part of her gang persona. #rafferty
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  • Derstine points out more letters using foul gang-related hip hop language - he says she had a "gang persona"
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McClintic says he would snort adderall prescribed to her. Says it was frequent. #rafferty
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  • McClintic says she used non prescribed drugs in custody. Such as aderol.
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Rafferty trial Day 10 (03/21/2012)
12:25 RaffertyLFP: In letter McClintic describes snorting drugs in detention

McClintic says he would snort adderall prescribed to her. Says it was frequent

RaffertyLFP: Derstine reads letter McClintic wrote in detention centre - foul gang language - another woman "needs to get smashed"

RaffertyLFP: Derstine points out letter with more gangsta tags and reference to "little gangsta crips" McClintic said it had no significance

McClintic says she put "LGC" or "little gangsta cripps" on her letter as "decoration

Derstine shows another letter McClintic wrote with "murderous *****es" on it.

RaffertyLFP: Derstine asks if "little gangsta crips" is reference to an actual gang. She denies it Letter again refers to "murderous *****es"

McClintic says she is unaware of an organization called "little gangsta cripps

McClintic says she is unsure of how many times she used the phrase

Derstine showing several pieces of evidence where McClintic expressing identification with gang culture
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  • McC says yes she adapted gang persona and used gang slang while in custody. She also admits to crushing pills and snorting it to get high
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Derstine reads letter where McClintic says someone needs to get "smashed" #rafferty
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